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Google. Check out this article. Google prefers college dropouts over college grads because straight-A college grads lack "intellectual humility." Which, simply put, is having your intellect fail you in a situation and now you have to accept the consequences and deal with them to overcome the problem. Google believes those that have sat in a classroom for 4-8 years and finally passed have felt the feeling of success enough to the point that they have forgotten the feeling of failure. Thus, when they actually come across difficulties, their knee-jerk reaction is "It's someone else's fault" or "I didn't have the resources required to solve it." Where as those that have been passing with Cs and Bs obviously don't have intellectual superiority, but with that lack they make up in capability of still being able to sustain themselves even with that crutch. And I'd prefer survival skills over smarts any day because it transfers when it really matters.

No where did Google say they"prefer" dropouts over graduates; you may have thought that due to the bias of the article. The crux of the information says that they are looking for people with X qualities over a good G.P.A, but that does not imply that they prefer one of the other. This is a misinterpretations. They are looking for qualities in people, which can exist for both graduates or dropouts. The majority of their employees are still graduates, only that there is a trend showing there is an increase in the number of those who do not go to college (they comprise of 14% of teams).

And you do realize that the things you mention are just generalizations made by Google right? They are not representative of a typical college graduate, and just as there are exceptional individuals who do not have a degree there are bound to be some who have one. Just know that some need the pressure in order to reach the level they are at, and not all have the intrinsic drive to do it on their own. Not everyone has the determination of Mark Zuckerberg or Bill Gates who can independently pursue their passion. This is rare, but Google realizes that these people exist and are out to find the needle in the haystack. The mentioned people have an incredible work ethic (from what I've heard in interviews) and those who score poorly do not always possess this trait. I find it hilarious that you associate those who score Bs and Cs with having the desirable qualities of an employer. That "may" be the case but is definitely not a certainty or probability. More often then not these are the slackers and the ones who are making the excuse "I didn't have the resources required to solve it".

To be fair, the people who joined a university to advance ideas were always the ones who were independently wealthy. Look at the early philosophers - Russell was a lord, Ramsey was the son of the president of a Cambridge college and the brother of an archbishop, and Wittgenstein once bought a train to avoid having to socialise with people on his journey. The fact that most people going to university nowadays need to earn money from it later indicates that universities have actually become more accessible to those who couldn't previously have afforded it.

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To be fair, the people who joined a university to advance ideas were always the ones who were independently wealthy. Look at the early philosophers - Russell was a lord, Ramsey was the son of the president of a Cambridge college and the brother of an archbishop, and Wittgenstein once bought a train to avoid having to socialise with people on his journey. The fact that most people going to university nowadays need to earn money from it later indicates that universities have actually become more accessible to those who couldn't previously have afforded it.

Yeah that's definitely true, but the mindset has still shifted (probably because of this) towards seeing it as nothing more than a step towards a career, and it really bugs me. I have a friend (and know of many other people) that thinks that anyone that doesn't do a maths/science degree is stupid. It's that sort of machine mindset that annoys me. Personally, I'm doing a degree that I enjoy learning about for its own sake, but I'm also lucky enough that it will help for the eventual career that I want to go into. If I wasn't lucky enough to have the latter, I still think it would be worth getting into debt for if it's what I really want to do, but most would disagree. (Of course this depends on the country and how the debt has to be paid back, if at all).

As stated numerous times, high school is absolutely meaningless. No matter how much people try to tell you that it isn't. In Australia, if you don't get the required grades for university entry, you have several other options. You could wait until you turn 20, and enter as a mature age student, or you could go to tafe (kind of like a community college I guess), and after 1/2 years, transfer to university. Even then, it's not like it's hard to get the required grades for university entry. I probably studied 3-4 times the entire last year and easily managed.

In my opinion university is kind of useless other than making connections and transitioning you into the workplace. Unfortunately, that slip of paper means a lot to a lot of people. A bachelors degree is also a standard requirement for a lot of overseas work, if you're looking for that kind of thing. If university didn't exist, I would be happily in the workplace right now, and I wouldn't be sitting on $30k debt. People should be expected to take education into their own hands, and employers should hire based on character, willingness to learn, and the amount that you've already taught yourself.

It really doesn't help when you're living in the most expensive city to live in Australia, bordering on the 10th most expensive city in the world.

I haven't been to college yet so I don't have many opinions on it besides the fact that if you need it for a job it shouldn't be as expensive. School education however is currently bullshit imo. The largest benefit from it is hardwork, otherwise you won't use most of what you are learning. I even have this idea about Individualized Education.

Also watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xe6nLVXEC0

Just like everything else in this country college has become a business. If you think about it just having a good degree wont get you anywhere although it does help dont get me wrong. Plus there are some key things that society doesn't want you to know. Like I though starting and finishing at a 4 year institution was the thing (which if your a student-athlete this situation is a little bit different for you because usually financially your problems are substantially less) although when all things are considered you only need to take your major's core classes at the university. So putting this in perspective taking your gen ed courses at a community college that will transfer is a way to save you about a minimum of 30000$ in your quest for that important piece of paper. Although society gives a negative connotation to this route but in the end your social stature isn't paying for your education is it?

Also to prove it isn't what you know but who you know I worked at a 4 star high class restaurant as a chef, I have no culinary degree and have not even taken a class once. How I got the job? well thats a lil secret ;3