Quote from DanielFontan

I never heard a reply on techness's behalf? definitely not an apology. You see... In this link here...it says "exactly" This word has a meaning. it denies future claims of misunderstanding...keep reading the photo...i doubt its a misunderstanding...otherwise he would have said sorry to me or said to ME that it was a misunderstanding...but instead...he "suposedly" says this when the HEAT is on. Cmon people.. idk what is going on here...does this Link show Justice!? DOES IT!? Holding chat abilities for ransom? IS THAT JUST? cmon i'm tired of this thread going on and on about stuff unrealated..bs comments that don't make sense if you actually read previous posts.. its just.. geez i didn't mean for this to be a teaching class.. just wanted it to be where photos are looked at and judged.. so lets get a judgemeant.. is it or is it not justice to take my abilities hostage and hold it for ransom...aka... what a mafia boss does when he says he'll protect you from bad guys ifyou give him a cut of your income...when its actually him that's going to send the bad guys.. so please.. yes's or no's.

Quote from Tecness2

But if you would like me to apologize for muting you for an hour, then I do.

I don't see the need to pursue this any further, he already apologized.

Techness ---
By the end of it, I believe I insulted you twice by saying you lack common sense and calling you not very bright. But, before I muted you for an hour, you claimed that the reason you haven't uploaded the picture (Which would take at MOST 5 minutes) is because we were distracting you. I felt, it was my duty as a person to remove the distraction from you so you could get on with the more important goal. My intentions of muting you were nothing but noble. But if you would like me to apologize for muting you for an hour, then I do.


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Let me break this down

he insulted me 5-6 times along with dragon insulting me too many to count..like..20 times....just look at his post on page two..that is his moderating skills in a nutshell..dragon's that is...i was being ganged up on without them correcting each other.....and he used much more damaging words than "unbright".. really? with me and me only being able to know this because i didn't print screen it so when he claims its noble but then apologizes for it?
its
"sorry it sucked not being able to talk"
not
"sorry i let my emotions get the best of me and using my epic ban hammer for my torture tactics to squeeze information out of you for an hour"

who apologizes for not eating humans? its noble to not eat humans..
he wasn't apologizing for what he did or why he did it.
its basically when a father makes his fighting kids shake hands...its not sincere xD

and i finally went to bed when my ban said -178 minutes... that's 60 minutes plus 178 minutes..

just left and right this guy is half truth and killing it with supporters that don't know what happened but just like the guy so they support him.. idk what to do anymore. but like i said..that wasn't an apology.. it seems like that way on the face ...excluding the obviousness that nobody would ever apologize for a noble action... that he was saying sorry to ridicule me as if that's what i want... he wasn't feeling it..he was feeling noble.. it just goes so much deeper because he knows what happened and this post is lies mixed with half truths...so directed at me its a total rubbing crap in my face and laughing...because he knows he's not trying to convince me of what happened(because i was there). he's trying to convince y'all. so when he says "yeah i messed up with 2 insults" its like..alright go techness for owning up and saying sorry..no..he totally wrecked me in there and none of that is spoken about. and he didn't admit much...cmon..he said he called me "unbright"..that's the Nicest insult he insulted me with.. sounds like a sweet ol grandma baking cookies saying sorry right? ...

i've had my rant and the photo speaks for itself. and supposedly the photo is noble.... and nobody spoke for an hour..what in gods name COULD we talk about for an hour...it was around 15-20 minutes of me repeating things such as

"this is the 5th time i've said that...ect"

because they honestly could not remember the 4 previous times i would say something....I was accused of using circular logic and using faulty logic.. i asked repeatedly which of my actions displayed this of me..and they would just switch the subject to a different insult...i did not play their little troll game for an hour guys.

that's it.. do what you wish with the photo... i swear i'll have screenshot program by the end of the day so this bull can't be pulled on me again and i waste my time trying to get ya'll to believe me over him....that i waste YA"LLS time and of course...no judgement should be passed on my word over his..but the photo is still the photo and that apology was meant as a catering insult..like i'm a baby that needs an apology so bad he'll give it to me so i'll feel all good inside..which makes him look good again as if he's sacrificing his image for me...no its still noble.

Im sure that CJ is on top it.

I think nobody spoke for an hour because you can't read chat when you're banned.

Quote from DanielFontan

Tecness ---
By the end of it, I believe I insulted you twice by saying you lack common sense and calling you not very bright. But, before I muted you for an hour, you claimed that the reason you haven't uploaded the picture (Which would take at MOST 5 minutes) is because we were distracting you. I felt, it was my duty as a person to remove the distraction from you so you could get on with the more important goal. My intentions of muting you were nothing but noble. But if you would like me to apologize for muting you for an hour, then I do.
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Let me break this down
he insulted me 5-6 times along with dragon insulting me too many to count..like..20 times....just look at his post on page two..that is his moderating skills in a nutshell..dragon's that is...i was being ganged up on without them correcting each other.....and he used much more damaging words than "unbright".. really? with me and me only being able to know this because i didn't print screen it so when he claims its noble but then apologizes for it?
its
"sorry it sucked not being able to talk"
not
"sorry i let my emotions get the best of me and using my epic ban hammer for my torture tactics to squeeze information out of you for an hour"

I don't let my emotions get the best of me, one of the reasons I'm able to be a moderator. I personally insulted you twice, by saying you have no common sense and using the exact words "You're not very bright", which I still believe. If someone else was insulting you at the time, I didn't see it, I was busy dealing with INSANEA over there, and playing a riveting game of solitaire at the time.

who apologizes for not eating humans? its noble to not eat humans..
he wasn't apologizing for what he did or why he did it.
its basically when a father makes his fighting kids shake hands...its not sincere xD

and i finally went to bed when my ban said -178 minutes... that's 60 minutes plus 178 minutes..

You're trying to compare real-world cannibalism to a video game chat....Here's that not very bright part coming back into play. You are right however, about the apology not being sincerer. Also, the -178 minutes is a glitch that is caused by your error. After the hour ban, you have to refresh your page. Most people who come to annoy the chat, after they get banned, they leave for a while. So this problem isn't very common.

just left and right this guy is half truth and killing it with supporters that don't know what happened but just like the guy so they support him.. idk what to do anymore. but like i said..that wasn't an apology.. it seems like that way on the face ...excluding the obviousness that nobody would ever apologize for a noble action... that he was saying sorry to ridicule me as if that's what i want... he wasn't feeling it..he was feeling noble.. it just goes so much deeper because he knows what happened and this post is lies mixed with half truths...so directed at me its a total rubbing crap in my face and laughing...because he knows he's not trying to convince me of what happened(because i was there). he's trying to convince y'all. so when he says "yeah i messed up with 2 insults" its like..alright go tecness for owning up and saying sorry..no..he totally wrecked me in there and none of that is spoken about. and he didn't admit much...cmon..he said he called me "unbright"..that's the Nicest insult he insulted me with.. sounds like a sweet ol grandma baking cookies saying sorry right? ...

See, here's the not very bright part again. Me saying it was noble, was a joke, a very obvious joke at that. While I know sarcasm is hard to detect over the Internet, I try to make it as obvious as possible. I'm not saying I messed up with two insults, I'm saying I have insulted you twice with the most minor insults I could think of at the time.

i've had my rant and the photo speaks for itself. and supposedly the photo is noble.... and nobody spoke for an hour..what in gods name COULD we talk about for an hour...it was around 15-20 minutes of me repeating things such as

"this is the 5th time i've said that...ect"

It was near enough to an hour of you saying some mod had abused you, and other people, claiming to have this evidence, claiming to be able to provide this evidence, claiming all this things, and here you sit with another story on how you magically lost them. Nobody in the chat believed you were telling the truth, not myself, not Dragon, not any of the random people, but even with that being said, we were still willing to hear you out.

because they honestly could not remember the 4 previous times i would say something....I was accused of using circular logic and using faulty logic.. i asked repeatedly which of my actions displayed this of me..and they would just switch the subject to a different insult...i did not play their little troll game for an hour guys.

I still would not consider what you were doing, logical in any sense of the world, unless your purpose was to annoy several people. Whenever you asked which action displayed this of you, our reply was near the same each time; Scroll up. I guess since you didn't understand it the first time, we should have explained it in great detail using small words.

that's it.. do what you wish with the photo... i swear i'll have screenshot program by the end of the day so this bull can't be pulled on me again and i waste my time trying to get ya'll to believe me over him....that i waste YA"LLS time and of course...no judgement should be passed on my word over his..but the photo is still the photo and that apology was meant as a catering insult..like i'm a baby that needs an apology so bad he'll give it to me so i'll feel all good inside..which makes him look good again as if he's sacrificing his image for me...no its still noble.

Print Screen works fine, but if you require something even more simplified, I may suggest bandicam. You're right, the apology was and is meant, as a catering insult, because you're acting like a child who spilt his milk. I'm sorry you spilt your milk, would you like another glass?
There, I've now insulted you several more times, clear as day.
I've also fixed my name in your posts, because apparently, seeing it in several different places, you're unable to detect that there is no god damn H in my name.

Quote from _Ai_

That would be CrazyJay/Brock.

Or in a minor way, me. Which is one of the reasons I was so interested in his original claims of this. I even stopped playing solitaire.

How does everyone think there's an h in your name tec? lol. It's like the jli and jili mistake everyone seems to make.

Daniel, If you truly think we as mods are doing our job wrong, please, report it directly to the developers. You can do this by emailing them at support@stickempires.com

Quote from TheLegendofKaito

More like relying. Now reply to this post. If not, then its not a loss.

I'm sorry, what? I get that you're trying to be clever but you've contributed absolutely nothing to this thread.

When I do it, it's not a mistake. it's because I don't know how the heck else to pronounce it and quick reading gives me that every time.

---You're trying to compare real-world cannibalism to a video game chat....Here's that not very bright part coming back into play. You are right however, about the apology not being sincerer. Also, the -178 minutes is a glitch that is caused by your error. After the hour ban, you have to refresh your page. Most people who come to annoy the chat, after they get banned, they leave for a while. So this problem isn't very common.

o_o dude... its not the details of cannibalism...i know video game chat isn't like eating humans..cmon man.. Its the idea that a noble action cannot be sincerely apologized for if the actions is currently seen as noble from that person..
Your emotions do get the best of you...i will use logic and evidence.
the photo is evidence...your words of "Exactly"..

http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/danielfontan/media/qwer_zps16c6f2d1.png.html

-So you were joking about your motivation for banning being noble? then what was in-noble about the ban? '-must be the fact you banned me for a different motivation...
-a different set of emotions...
-in-noble emotions..
-and they got the best of you..
-and caused you to act on an un-noble ban.
-as the ban itself is just a ban(nor good or bad)..
-the motivations behind the ban is what determines if its in-noble
-motivations are fueled by emotion
-so in-noble motivations caused the ban making the ban in-noble
i at least said that your emotions got the best of you...if thats not true..and you were calm and collected...then you are a monster...at least i thought you were gotten the best of by the situation and your emotions..the benefit of the doubt that you were temporarily making an irrational decision based upon emotions. But if you were calm and collected...then you totally meant to do what you did and were not tempararily insane..so..jail not nuthouse..and it is scary you have banning capabilites...

we can no longer hope that you won't lose it every now and again because your emotions get the best of you.....We have to instead know that you are at a constant..and that constant is shown in the photo...I have seen you moderate before..it is good moderating..but..this time it was hostile and irrational bullying...this is why I KNOW that your emotions got the best of you and that you were not of sound mind...because there is a difference between your previous actions and the current action in this situation.

but if you wish to hold that stance that you did not get stressed out and carried by emotions... i will expand upon what that position holds on a deeper level.
because by your words you did not let emotions get the best of you..and you think it is noble..(yet don't)..i don't get that part.

""".its sarcasm when you said it's noble..so it's not noble...but you didn't let your emotions get the best of you"""
So you agree what you did was not noble and you believe your emotions didn't get the best of you..but you were the best of your emotions... so you were in complete control and in sound mind when committing the action...know what that means?.....means your an irrational with a warped mentality of what justice is...or your not an irrational and you do know what is just...and you're just a bad guy knowing what's bad and doing the opposite...a bully.

easy to pick apart. using logic.. real logic.. by definition.

As you perfectly show you knew no English definition of "logic" or "logical in reference" as you claimed i was being illogical in chat and currently still holding that position. No wonder i had to question it in chat and question it again here. Please look up this word. It would help confusion.

Print screen does not work fine as i have to copy and paste and save it into Paint before print screening again.. not to mention i would have to constantly scroll up in the the chat box as i'm constantly pulled back down because a message came through and to mention also i'm missing out on conversation... Print screen works fine.. true.. as a tongue works fine at tasting.. but using print screen as a screenshot method in SE chatbox is the equivalent of using your tongue to hammer nails...just because prt scr works fine does not mean it does for Se chatbox screenshotting.


I have not once attacked you. i have only given my perceptions on what your actions say and what your words say in pure honesty and labled you to reaveal what i see your actions describe you as. For sincerely bringing justice to your actions and safetey to others...not revenge..

YOu sir seek no justice or try and ---help--- me as i am illogical and crazy...
----when was the last time you saw a teacher insult a student?----
your not trying to teach or help me... you are trying to embarrass me and break my spirit with insults..no teacher does that.
.a bully does.. a bully.
you have constantly attacked me in the name of petty insults only meant to harm and break my spirit. You are seeking revenge and your actions depict it.

The difference between seeking justice and revenge...they can have the same outcome...but the certainly have different motivations...
to help...or to destroy.

-For Tecness
Not a single person in the chat-room interfered with our discussion... I'm not typing this for the other readers to make a decision on.. i'm typing this part sincerely for you... you know nobody else interfered so you know that it is impossible that Others were annoyed/didn't believe me. You know there was no interference to support that thought...you added it in there because you felt you needed to. Ask yourself.. Why couldn't you only speak on Dragons's and your feelings..i'm sure you can honestly conclude those...why did you feel it necessary to go the extra step to say others in the chatroom felt that way too when nobody said a word as that? The only thing that was said was by one person and its in the photo. 1 person..you cannot conclude his ideas from that post. so why go all the way to many people..and then judge upon things taht weren't said by those many people that didn't say anything? Know thyself. I know why you added it in. Stretching truths..to win.. . revenge.. winning.. i'm not competing with you tecness..so please quit insulting me as if you NEED to be dominate and derive power from insults and win and be on top.. persevere... the same things that led to you banning me. Your insults are not meant to help me...they are only meant to hurt me.. hopefully making me weaker.. and making you stronger.. a bully.

Actions speak louder... 1 actions says alot about a person. ever watch hannibal? he would be considered a professional witness...using the same tactics cold readers do. The tactic which is the opposite of which lawyers do. Lawyers look at evidece and leat it to the prosecuted.. professional witnesses look at the actions of the prosecuted and follow it to the evidence through physchology and cause and effect. Actions speak louder. Much more louder than your lies about your motivations...because your words and the way you word everything and what you say and WHY you say it completely rats you out.

I don't want your moderator powers taken away.. i'd rather you have a change of heart and be a Just moderator


http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/danielfontan/media/qwer_zps16c6f2d1.png.html
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I have not once attacked you or degraded you...as you have me constantly
(by idle insults and attempts to make me as a fool..Tecness...- the H of course...)
I have attacked your actions and the words you used constantly
(by explaining the psychology behind them by reducing them based on your other statements and actions)
.....that is the difference Tecness...The same difference that exposes -- justice and revenge.... A Friend and an enemy.. a lover and a hater. production and destruction...A helper.................and a bully

Wow, I have to admire your consistence on this. But the point is, it's better if you use this somewhere else rather than this meaningless debate (if there's one).

Are you some 9 year old who lives in a black and white world with no grey yet, where right is right and wrong is wrong? Because you seem to be missing a few lessons in logic...

I'll just point a few of you to this thread from the debate section: http://forums.stickpage.com/showthread.php?757-Logical-Fallacies
Because you clearly don't know any of it.

Oh, and please don't post a comment there.

Logical fallacies bolded for your own convenience

Quote from DanielFontan

o_o dude... its not the details of cannibalism...i know video game chat isn't like eating humans..cmon man.. Its the idea that a noble action cannot be sincerely apologized for if the actions is currently seen as noble from that person..
Your emotions do get the best of you...i will use logic and evidence.
the photo is evidence...your words of "Exactly"..

Then say that, not some stupid slippery slope instead.

Quote from DanielFontan

http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/danielfontan/media/a4_zps954bfda2.png.html?sort=3&o=5

Congratulations. You have a screenshot showing that someone got banned by someone from the chat for an unknown reason.

Care to explain how that has any relevance?

Quote from DanielFontan

-So you were joking about your motivation for banning being noble? then what was in-noble about the ban? '-must be the fact you banned me for a different motivation...
-a different set of emotions...
-in-noble emotions..
-and they got the best of you..
-and caused you to act on an un-noble ban.
-as the ban itself is just a ban(nor good or bad)..
-the motivations behind the ban is what determines if its in-noble
-motivations are fueled by emotion
-so in-noble motivations caused the ban making the ban in-noble
i at least said that your emotions got the best of you...if thats not true..and you were calm and collected...then you are a monster...at least i thought you were gotten the best of by the situation and your emotions..the benefit of the doubt that you were temporarily making an irrational decision based upon emotions. But if you were calm and collected...then you totally meant to do what you did and were not tempararily insane..so..jail not nuthouse..and it is scary you have banning capabilites...

I think you mean un-noble for starters. You know what fact means, right? Here you're just using a False Dichotomy as if there's only two possibilities that could ever happen. Also, there is no fact here. You posted a screenshot showing that someone got banned by someone from the chat for an unknown reason. Assuming that's your own user, which I can't even be sure of, you have only proven that someone banned you. To leap from that to saying Tec banned you, that Tec banned you for the wrong reasons and then that Tec banned you for emotional reasons is yet another slipper slope, a Tautology, and Petitio Principii, as well as a misplaced burden of proof, and Ignoring the Common Cause. Damn. I don't think I could make a paragraph that fallcious if I even tried.

Quote from DanielFontan

we can no longer hope that you won't lose it every now and again because your emotions get the best of you.....We have to instead know that you are at a constant..and that constant is shown in the photo...I have seen you moderate before..it is good moderating..but..this time it was hostile and irrational bullying...this is why I KNOW that your emotions got the best of you and that you were not of sound mind...because there is a difference between your previous actions and the current action in this situation.

Continuing on from a fallicious 'point' you are still yet to prove or backup. That photo showed nothing incriminating as I mentioned at the start of this post. Having assumed yet again that he bullies you move on to saying he is affected by emotion in his modding. Were your original point actually grounded in reasons this might even a believable inference but you are still yet to give a single reason for when he 'bullied' you in the first place. So yet more Tautology and Petitio Principii.

Quote from DanielFontan

but if you wish to hold that stance that you did not get stressed out and carried by emotions... i will expand upon what that position holds on a deeper level.
because by your words you did not let emotions get the best of you..and you think it is noble..(yet don't)..i don't get that part.

I can't even follow this grammar to work out what you're trying to say.

Quote from DanielFontan

""".its sarcasm when you said it's noble..so it's not noble...but you didn't let your emotions get the best of you"""
So you agree what you did was not noble and you believe your emotions didn't get the best of you..but you were the best of your emotions... so you were in complete control and in sound mind when committing the action...know what that means?.....means your an irrational with a warped mentality of what justice is...or your not an irrational and you do know what is just...and you're just a bad guy knowing what's bad and doing the opposite...a bully.

More Tautology and Petitio Principii.

Quote from DanielFontan

easy to pick apart. using logic.. real logic.. by definition.

I have yet to seen any logic from you.

Quote from DanielFontan

As you perfectly show you knew no English definition of "logic" or "logical in reference" as you claimed i was being illogical in chat and currently still holding that position. No wonder i had to question it in chat and question it again here. Please look up this word. It would help confusion.

I do not know what things you said in the chat, but from the host of illogical things said here I think I can assume that Tec indeed can reasonably claim you were being illogical in the chat, given that is so prevalent here.

Quote from DanielFontan

Print screen does not work fine as i have to copy and paste and save it into Paint before print screening again.. not to mention i would have to constantly scroll up in the the chat box as i'm constantly pulled back down because a message came through and to mention also i'm missing out on conversation... Print screen works fine.. true.. as a tongue works fine at tasting.. but using print screen as a screenshot method in SE chatbox is the equivalent of using your tongue to hammer nails...just because prt scr works fine does not mean it does for Se chatbox screenshotting.

Every person I have banned from the chatbox when I was fighting the scrolling required me to select their name and drag across in time to copy just that part. One post and I had to start again. That took a lot of time to get right because of how long precision selecting takes. Pressing printscreen is a lot less time consuming. If you really can't cope with pressing a button quickly enough to get your shot then I'd recommend you get a screen recorder and use that to make sure you get your 'evidence'.

Quote from DanielFontan

I have not once attacked you. i have only given my perceptions on what your actions say and what your words say in pure honesty and labled you to reaveal what i see your actions describe you as. For sincerely bringing justice to your actions and safetey to others...not revenge..

That last part is yet again more Petitio Principii and Tautology.

Quote from DanielFontan

YOu sir seek no justice or try and ---help--- me as i am illogical and crazy...
----when was the last time you saw a teacher insult a student?----
your not trying to teach or help me... you are trying to embarrass me and break my spirit with insults..no teacher does that.
.a bully does.. a bully.
you have constantly attacked me in the name of petty insults only meant to harm and break my spirit. You are seeking revenge and your actions depict it.

A teacher can do those things, they just wouldn't be a very nice teacher. A bully also doesn't have to bully via that method, so no bully necessarily has to be that either. Both your examples here are bad examples assuming a false black or white.

Quote from DanielFontan

The difference between seeking justice and revenge...they can have the same outcome...but the certainly have different motivations...
to help...or to destroy.

Okay.

Quote from DragonArcherZ

Are you some 9 year old who lives in a black and white world with no grey yet, where right is right and wrong is wrong? Because you seem to be missing a few lessons in logic...

I've asked you 4 times now and 2 times in chat to look up what Logic means.. Why havn't you done so? Why not stop insulting me and breaking me down and instead point out my missing lessons in logic and help me? I imagine becase you have not yet googled the word or taken 30 minutes to learn the logic tree like the back of your hand.. its super simple to learn how logic works.. Most of it is in the definition.. Logic is summarized in a 4 box diagram.. 30 minutes of looking at one picture and you're a pro...the only reason you think you need..."lessons" is because you don't realize how simple the method of logic is. that is...because you've made no attempt to learn it...even to the point of not googling the definition and still posting insulting my logic and never backing it up....and logic is as black and white as it gets....you're talking about reason...and my reasoning is reasonable. right is right and wrong is wrong in logic...Dragon.. a rock is a rock and a rock isn't not a rock.

Quote from Skeletonxf

I'll just point a few of you to this thread from the debate section: http://forums.stickpage.com/showthread.php?757-Logical-Fallacies
Because you clearly don't know any of it.

Oh, and please don't post a comment there.

Logical fallacies are more of actions that suck and are unreasonable or irrational or just weirdly unable to grasp conversation guidelines.
But flawed logic is different. I do not flaw the 4box diagram of how logic works.
insult dissected and rejected.
Matt Dilahunty can help

look lol the first one on the link given..
Ad Hominem.. plz dont commit that one...this is actually where this entire thread has gone to... I wish Cj would come and make a judgement and it can be over. That's basically what it was meant for but then trying to accommodate everyone...like this exact post...is what its turned into.



So please can we just comment on the photo if anything until someone with power can judge and move on?
http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/danielfontan/media/Tecness%20attacks/qwer_zps16c6f2d1.png.html?sort=3&o=0

Quote from DanielFontan

Logical fallacies are more of actions that suck and are unreasonable or irrational or just weirdly unable to grasp conversation guidelines.
But flawed logic is different. I do not flaw the 4box diagram of how logic works.
insult dissected and rejected.

Blatantly wrong there.

Wikipedia: A fallacy is incorrect argument in logic
Logical fallacies ARE invalid logic by their own definition.

Quote from DanielFontan

So please can we just comment on the photo if anything until someone with power can judge and move on?
http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/danielfontan/media/Tecness%20attacks/qwer_zps16c6f2d1.png.html?sort=3&o=0

If you could say why that picture has any relevance to this thread that would be great.

it is an incorrect argument in logic but not flawed structure of logic. It was a mislink...cmon i've been posting the exact same link over and over in my posts and when i reference the excact same photo...yes...its a mislink. and yes either you have a noble motivation or an in-noble motivation..dichonomy.quit cherry picking what i say. As I would love to pick apart your statements like i said i'd like to keep...well...I could do that via email if you like? I'd like to keep this thread clean of future accommodations...

of course i wasn't make absolute's in the bully teacher part...i know a teacher can eat a rotten rabbit in front of her class as she does the hokey pokey...stay in context..i know she has the capability...its just not what you would see from a good teacher...way to blast my words waay out of the water.

Im now a bit irritated with your absurdity..im a bit too irratated right now that right after i ask to keep this place cleaned up...you post all that..so please message me privately and i will soon fix the link...

I'd like to keep this thread clean of future accommodations outside the topic of whether or not the photo is a Just action...


-- I just found out there is a link for support for these issues. I was told by moderator i was supposed to post it in the forums.