Chat rules and ban appeals

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Oct 29, 2015 2:35 PM #1411987
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I disargree Mods should take note of the public and listen to their fellow mods AND public if their is a general argreement that what their doing is unfair.

With great power comes great responsibility you should know that Hewitt


So theoretically I could tell a cop that they shouldn't arrest my friend for murder because of bla bla bla and he is actually supposed to listen to me?
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Oct 29, 2015 2:50 PM #1411993
Alright guys, that's enough discussion about this on this thread.

If you really have concerns about how this situation is being handled by the Stickpage mods, please PM me or _Ai_. If you have any concerns specifically about the Chat, then you can post here respectfully.
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Oct 29, 2015 3:15 PM #1411996
With regards to the chat I'll say again that we need a more consistent way to deal with usernames that we need to agree on.
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Oct 29, 2015 4:16 PM #1412002
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That doesn't really make sense. You agree with Hew. But now you're saying that Archy is making a genuine appeal. What.


He is making a genuine appeal. Its the motif of the appeal that I agree with Hew on, but it doesn't take away from the fact that its a legit appeal. The motif isn't really our business.

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With regards to the chat I'll say again that we need a more consistent way to deal with usernames that we need to agree on.


What do you mean? I think the chat system works fine as long as people don't overstep their privileges & mods are able to agree on things. Unfortunately that wasn't the case for this situation between archy and myst. Its one of a thousand though.
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Oct 29, 2015 6:24 PM #1412023
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What do you mean? I think the chat system works fine as long as people don't overstep their privileges & mods are able to agree on things. Unfortunately that wasn't the case for this situation between archy and myst. Its one of a thousand though.

I'm not talking about the forum discussion with archy and myst I'm talking about usernames such as poormystery or other names that could be very passive aggressive or even flaming or not be depending on how you interpret them. I've seen plenty of users referring to Wyz in their names as well. I think flat out banning any account for mentioning another by name in their name is overkill but at the same time it's tricky with the names. Because people can't change them you don't want to permeban someone who means well but chose a stupid name and temp banning over a name is silly because it does nothing, it's 1 year or not at all.
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Oct 29, 2015 6:37 PM #1412025
Oh yeah I suppose then. But we can still see their names in the live replays or wherever, so it only half solves the problem. But yes, I do think there should be rules implemented to deal with that issue of dodgy usernames.
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Oct 29, 2015 7:36 PM #1412031
I would like to provide some closure to the previous situation. As of right now my accounts are unbanned once again. Thanks to everyone. With that being said I do agree with Skeleton, accounts that mention other players names should not be banned. Players have no ownership over their account names, and other players should be able to use the names. Take this a step further and look at the name itself, look at "Mystery" this is a very common word used to describe a number of things, while names like WyzDm and ArchyBeatz are unique. The rules say to keep it PG-13, but if accounts named "PoorMystery" are getting banned then it seems like it's keeping it "G". With that being said, if an account name can't be typed in the chat without it being censored (like Mystery's last alt, not going to say the name but refer to #83 of DM rankings if you wish to know what I'm talking about) then they should be terminated from the game, not permanently banned. With a chat ban, the players name will still appear on highscores, will still show up on livereplay screen, on the spectate live screen and the player is still able to message and harass players if they choose.

To sum it up, unless the character name has explicit material in it, then don't do anything about it. Don't ban the account merely because it mentions another players name in it.
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Oct 29, 2015 8:33 PM #1412033
#83 is Deboplata. Is that Turkish for Archy?
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Oct 29, 2015 10:30 PM #1412051
who unbanned it ? This case is definitely not an end

First of all, I could not post here due to some personal issues in the past few days
but after I looked back all these posts I am surprised how some of you can be completely blind towards these issues on some important points, and talking with something that is completely irrelevant to this thread and the rules

As some of you don't even know what is happening, I am going to explain the whole issue once
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So as many of you know, I did mentioned that I was going to quit sp forum as well as the game for some reasons couple weeks ago
That was supposed to be an end .

And yet Archy suddenly created a big trouble , by using my name to make the account "PoorMystery"
He used that account to rank, called people noobs, insulted some players in live games

What happened after was that some players who did not know this fact , they misunderstood and they thought "PoorMystery" is my account
Couple players even asked me why I called them as a noob ,while I never did it
So he was actually using my name to insult others and ruining my name

For example :
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And how come you can say this is not an issue of using such name ? Made an account using my name specifically to insult me , and ruined my name as well, at the same time caused more trouble and misunderstanding
According to the chat rule.
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He broke two of the important rules, and this is not the first time. Last time I said he abused alts , and he got unbanned due to "lack of evidence" , but this time when he is obviously using a mod's name to abuse alt, and you say "this is passive aggressive" and no problem ?
If you are going to be that biased and turn into a blind eyes for this issue, then you better stop commenting.

Also, I made the account with Archy's name two days ago, while he made that account one week or two weeks earlier than me, so he started all these troubles and issues first.

Furthermore, he said I banned him due to personal abuse after I matches with him was also another lie, I played with him in a match two days ago
But I banned him one week ago when I first saw that account, so that is completely irrelevant
Here is the proof that I banned him before I played with him:

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Oct 29, 2015 11:12 PM #1412061
Thanks Myst that clears up a lot. I hope for consistency's sake you'll abandon your ArchySuckMyDick account though. @Archy saying Mystery isn't a name so you get to flame him with your account name anyway is so silly. We both know you named that account to target Mystery.

As for the name dicussion my current method has been not insta-year banning accounts with names that are just bad as opposed to totally inappropriate but being willing to ban them for bad behaviour much more easily. This way silly people who choose stupid names but actually behave well can carry on. And by stupid names I mean names with swears in or stuff like that, I think personal attack is way too far.
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Oct 30, 2015 5:29 AM #1412148
Just a suggestion, but maybe add a rule that you need to be professional and mature (without harassments) when appealing? And responding. If not they'll be dealt accordingly (via being ignored/deleted).
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Oct 30, 2015 5:38 AM #1412150
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Just a suggestion, but maybe add a rule that you need to be professional and mature (without harassments) when appealing? And responding. If not they'll be dealt accordingly (via being ignored/deleted).


Some SE players aren't professional or mature. (because of age or whatever).
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Oct 30, 2015 5:43 AM #1412151
And? I don't see the point. If they aren't mature/professional about it, they get ignored/deleted.
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Oct 30, 2015 5:44 AM #1412152
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And? I don't see the point. If they aren't mature/professional about it, they get ignored/deleted.


That creates a bias that is not friendly to probably half of the players our there.
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Oct 30, 2015 6:24 AM #1412158
Maybe make a type of 'application' for ban appeals that can be posted on this thread. They can then give more precise information and it partially stops them from flaming.