Chat rules and ban appeals
Started by: Skeletonxf | Replies: 674 | Views: 93,004 | Sticky
Nov 29, 2015 5:05 PM #1419354
Alright with the help of CJ, the eraser has been ip banned. Then he used a proxy to get back on when he went offline. Then he got bored and stopped. Victory I guess?
Dec 23, 2015 8:08 PM #1425010
Your SE account name(s) banned:ArchyBeatz
The time and timezone when they were banned:Eastern 2:48pm
Who you think banned you / which mods you were aware of being online at the time:Aseplayer
Any screenshots of the chat when you were banned:


Why you think the ban was unjust and what you were doing when you were banned:
No rules were broken. The only rule that one can argue that was broken was flaming, and if you consider that flaming you don't understand what flaming is. Statements were no directed towards any player, weren't serious, and aren't curse words.
The time and timezone when they were banned:Eastern 2:48pm
Who you think banned you / which mods you were aware of being online at the time:Aseplayer
Any screenshots of the chat when you were banned:


Why you think the ban was unjust and what you were doing when you were banned:
No rules were broken. The only rule that one can argue that was broken was flaming, and if you consider that flaming you don't understand what flaming is. Statements were no directed towards any player, weren't serious, and aren't curse words.
Dec 23, 2015 8:12 PM #1425012
Quote from ArchyBeatzYour SE account name(s) banned:ArchyBeatz
The time and timezone when they were banned:Eastern 2:48pm
Who you think banned you / which mods you were aware of being online at the time:Aseplayer
Any screenshots of the chat when you were banned:
Why you think the ban was unjust and what you were doing when you were banned:
No rules were broken. The only rule that one can argue that was broken was flaming, and if you consider that flaming you don't understand what flaming is. Statements were no directed towards any player, weren't serious, and aren't curse words.
Calling everyone a peasant and telling them to bow down to you and make you a sandwich. Wow you totally weren't being a complete asshole. Stop this shit.
Dec 23, 2015 8:25 PM #1425018
Quote from AsePlayerCalling everyone a peasant and telling them to bow down to you and make you a sandwich. Wow you totally weren't being a complete asshole. Stop this shit.
So let me get this straight, it's alright for you to call me a complete asshole but it's a problem when I jokingly call everyone a peasant? Stop with the double standards Ase.
I was having a conversation with another player, the player said I pay to win, I asked if they wanted $4, they said yes and I told them to make me a sandwich. You jump into the middle of a conversation and take phrases out of context.
Bottom line, I didn't break any rules therefore my account shouldn't have been banned.
I would appreciate it if another mod beside the mod who banned me looked into this. It's obvious your vision of modding is skewed Ase.
Dec 23, 2015 8:26 PM #1425019
Quote from ArchyBeatzSo let me get this straight, it's alright for you to call me a complete asshole but it's a problem when I jokingly call everyone a peasant? Stop with the double standards Ase.
I was having a conversation with another player, the player said I pay to win, I asked if they wanted $4, they said yes and I told them to make me a sandwich. You jump into the middle of a conversation and take phrases out of context.
Bottom line, I didn't break any rules therefore my account shouldn't have been banned.
I would appreciate it if another mod beside the mod who banned me looked into this. It's obvious your vision of modding is skewed Ase.
Flaming. Go take that to the pms if you have personal problems with a player, don't bring it out to the global.
Dec 23, 2015 8:37 PM #1425024
Quote from AsePlayerFlaming. Go take that to the pms if you have personal problems with a player, don't bring it out to the global.
Once again it's obvious you don't know what flaming is. The flaming rule is implemented to keep out racial slurs, sexual slurs, threats and harassing statements. To put "Peasant" in that category is outrageous. The flaming rule isn't put there for you to ban people whenever you like.
There was no problem between me and the player it was a friendly conversation. You jumped into a conversation and took it out of context. Maybe you should actually read and follow the rules before you make hastily bans.
Dec 23, 2015 9:06 PM #1425029
Quote from ArchyBeatzOnce again it's obvious you don't know what flaming is. The flaming rule is implemented to keep out racial slurs, sexual slurs, threats and harassing statements. To put "Peasant" in that category is outrageous. The flaming rule isn't put there for you to ban people whenever you like.
There was no problem between me and the player it was a friendly conversation. You jumped into a conversation and took it out of context. Maybe you should actually read and follow the rules before you make hastily bans.
Calling someone anything that can be taken as offensive isn't okay bud.
Dec 23, 2015 9:18 PM #1425042
Ase based on these screenshots it does look like you took it way out of context. Maybe it was flame or offensive but it probably wasn't and probably isn't good enough. No one in the screenshots looked offended at all.
However with the just 24 hour duration the chances of me finding you Archy during that time to unban are so low you're probably best just waiting out the ban or using an alt to tell a mod you do see in the chat and linking them to this page. Thanks for using the ban appeal format.
However with the just 24 hour duration the chances of me finding you Archy during that time to unban are so low you're probably best just waiting out the ban or using an alt to tell a mod you do see in the chat and linking them to this page. Thanks for using the ban appeal format.
Dec 23, 2015 9:41 PM #1425044
Quote from SkeletonxfAse based on these screenshots it does look like you took it way out of context. Maybe it was flame or offensive but it probably wasn't and probably isn't good enough. No one in the screenshots looked offended at all.
However with the just 24 hour duration the chances of me finding you Archy during that time to unban are so low you're probably best just waiting out the ban or using an alt to tell a mod you do see in the chat and linking them to this page. Thanks for using the ban appeal format.
That's cause he didn't screenshot all of it.
Dec 23, 2015 9:59 PM #1425048
Quote from AsePlayerThat's cause he didn't screenshot all of it.
You're telling me Archy would try to fake the evidence for a 24 hour ban?

Superposing the two screenshots doesn't suggest he's deliberately skipped something between being banned and making that initial comment because the scroll bars are so close together. I mean sure he could have said something really flamy before that first screenshot but you've not mentioned any such thing (he'd said prior) yourself Ase.
Dec 23, 2015 11:08 PM #1425058
Archy when no mods are online:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming_(Internet)#Flame_trolling
"Flame trolling is the posting of a provocative or offensive message, known as "flamebait", to a public Internet discussion group.. with the intent of provoking an angry response (a "flame") or argument over a topic the poster often has no real interest in. While flaming can occur as a result of legitimate debates or grievances, flame trolling implies the intentional posting of inflammatory, grossly offensive or menacing rhetoric or images for the fun of it in order to cause others harm."
Archy:
>Has been bitching about rules for months
>Calls multiple users trash
Stick Empires TOS
A. You are entitled to use Stick Empires™ for your own personal use, but you shall not be entitled to..
(vii) harass, threaten, stalk, embarrass, or cause distress, unwanted attention or discomfort upon another user of Stick Empires™ or other person or entity
(xi) disrupt the normal flow of dialogue in a chat room or otherwise act in a manner that negatively affects other users, individuals, or entities, including, but not limited to, posting "Spam" messages on Stick Empires™
pretty sure this warranties a ban

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming_(Internet)#Flame_trolling
"Flame trolling is the posting of a provocative or offensive message, known as "flamebait", to a public Internet discussion group.. with the intent of provoking an angry response (a "flame") or argument over a topic the poster often has no real interest in. While flaming can occur as a result of legitimate debates or grievances, flame trolling implies the intentional posting of inflammatory, grossly offensive or menacing rhetoric or images for the fun of it in order to cause others harm."
Archy:
>Has been bitching about rules for months
>Calls multiple users trash
Stick Empires TOS
A. You are entitled to use Stick Empires™ for your own personal use, but you shall not be entitled to..
(vii) harass, threaten, stalk, embarrass, or cause distress, unwanted attention or discomfort upon another user of Stick Empires™ or other person or entity
(xi) disrupt the normal flow of dialogue in a chat room or otherwise act in a manner that negatively affects other users, individuals, or entities, including, but not limited to, posting "Spam" messages on Stick Empires™
pretty sure this warranties a ban
Dec 24, 2015 12:45 AM #1425076
Quote from MasterKaitoArchy when no mods are online:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming_(Internet)#Flame_trolling
"Flame trolling is the posting of a provocative or offensive message, known as "flamebait", to a public Internet discussion group.. with the intent of provoking an angry response (a "flame") or argument over a topic the poster often has no real interest in. While flaming can occur as a result of legitimate debates or grievances, flame trolling implies the intentional posting of inflammatory, grossly offensive or menacing rhetoric or images for the fun of it in order to cause others harm."
Archy:
>Has been bitching about rules for months
>Calls multiple users trash
Stick Empires TOS
A. You are entitled to use Stick Empires™ for your own personal use, but you shall not be entitled to..
(vii) harass, threaten, stalk, embarrass, or cause distress, unwanted attention or discomfort upon another user of Stick Empires™ or other person or entity
(xi) disrupt the normal flow of dialogue in a chat room or otherwise act in a manner that negatively affects other users, individuals, or entities, including, but not limited to, posting "Spam" messages on Stick Empires™
pretty sure this warranties a ban
First of all, Kaito please post better sources than Wiki pages about trolling.
Second, all I ask is that I be treated fairly and the same as every other player. Deeming "Peasant" or "Trash" flaming is crazy and is stretching the boundaries very far. On the chat rules it states to "Keep the chat PG-13" you and Ase are acting as if it said "Keep it rated G". Also, keep in mind that I was replying to someone saying "they will beat everyone here". If you are really going to consider what I said flame than give everyone the same treatment. Just within that screenshot Elijahhh should have been banned for threats against other players. Saying he will "destroy" and will "obliterate" would fall under the same category.
Quote from SkeletonxfYou're telling me Archy would try to fake the evidence for a 24 hour ban?
Superposing the two screenshots doesn't suggest he's deliberately skipped something between being banned and making that initial comment because the scroll bars are so close together. I mean sure he could have said something really flamy before that first screenshot but you've not mentioned any such thing (he'd said prior) yourself Ase.
Nothing else was said. I took a screenshot of the last thing I said and a screenshot of Ase's response and the amount of time which I was banned. Ase is lying, if I said anything else that was considered flame I would have been banned before I was able to make the comments that I took a screenshot of.
Once again, I believe some type of system needs to be put in place to keep mods in check. Ase knew what i said wasn't flame and he knew there would be no consequences for banning me unjustly.
Dec 24, 2015 1:37 AM #1425086
Quote from ArchyBeatzFirst of all, Kaito please post better sources than Wiki pages about trolling.
Second, all I ask is that I be treated fairly and the same as every other player. Deeming "Peasant" or "Trash" flaming is crazy and is stretching the boundaries very far. On the chat rules it states to "Keep the chat PG-13" you and Ase are acting as if it said "Keep it rated G". Also, keep in mind that I was replying to someone saying "they will beat everyone here". If you are really going to consider what I said flame than give everyone the same treatment. Just within that screenshot Elijahhh should have been banned for threats against other players. Saying he will "destroy" and will "obliterate" would fall under the same category.
Nothing else was said. I took a screenshot of the last thing I said and a screenshot of Ase's response and the amount of time which I was banned. Ase is lying, if I said anything else that was considered flame I would have been banned before I was able to make the comments that I took a screenshot of.
Once again, I believe some type of system needs to be put in place to keep mods in check. Ase knew what i said wasn't flame and he knew there would be no consequences for banning me unjustly.
You were banned justly, feel free to think otherwise.
Dec 24, 2015 1:49 AM #1425090
Quote from AsePlayerYou were banned justly, feel free to think otherwise.
Of course you think so because you were the one who banned me. Read Skeletons post again, maybe you can comprehend it the second time around.
Quote from SkeletonxfAse based on these screenshots it does look like you took it way out of context. Maybe it was flame or offensive but it probably wasn't and probably isn't good enough. No one in the screenshots looked offended at all.
However with the just 24 hour duration the chances of me finding you Archy during that time to unban are so low you're probably best just waiting out the ban or using an alt to tell a mod you do see in the chat and linking them to this page. Thanks for using the ban appeal format.
Dec 24, 2015 1:51 AM #1425091
Quote from ArchyBeatzOf course you think so because you were the one who banned me. Read Skeletons post again, maybe you can comprehend it the second time around.
He can feel free to think otherwise too.