Now, now, you guys.

Stop demotivating the guy. Back when we were young, we too created collabs. Sure it wasn't pleasing to watch but it sure was fun. Stop pushing the idea that "Bad Quality = Immediate Failure". This is just a hobby and not a business so relax.

Support the guy instead of continuing to pull him down. I've already given my part back at the "Community Project Ideas". This has potential and it would suck if it would just be thrown away. At the very least, at least he listens.

Once again, best of luck with this!

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Now, now, you guys.

Stop demotivating the guy. Back when we were young, we too created collabs. Sure it wasn't pleasing to watch but it sure was fun. Stop pushing the idea that "Bad Quality = Immediate Failure". This is just a hobby and not a business so relax.

Support the guy instead of continuing to pull him down. I've already given my part back at the "Community Project Ideas". This has potential and it would suck if it would just be thrown away. At the very least, at least he listens.

Once again, best of luck with this!

Thankyoumrzero

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That's only looking at the bright side. In reality, the ones who joined wasted their time since the collab wasn't successful. Sure, they practiced but they could have done something for a better cause. Beginners are free to make any anim they want, but more advanced people would like to animate for something that will be finished.
Thus, it leaves to the conclusion that only beginners will join.

I'm not telling him to stop, I'm just saying this is likely to fail or even if it gets finished, it will have a low quality. So a long ass collab with a low quality is just not pleasant to watch, people might just not finish watching it all. Which makes the whole collab, as a result, a fail.

Reb, I'm sure he is already aware of what's what so stop bashing him with your discouragement please , saying it as politely as possible.

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Now, now, you guys.

Stop demotivating the guy. Back when we were young, we too created collabs. Sure it wasn't pleasing to watch but it sure was fun. Stop pushing the idea that "Bad Quality = Immediate Failure". This is just a hobby and not a business so relax.

Support the guy instead of continuing to pull him down. I've already given my part back at the "Community Project Ideas". This has potential and it would suck if it would just be thrown away. At the very least, at least he listens.

Once again, best of luck with this!

Once again, Thanks dude!

And rebellion, I appreciate your concern, but by hook or by crook, this WILL be finished. Whether it ends up good or bad, I've practiced compiling things and I've been able to make it really easy. I know what I'm doing. Any advanced animator such as yourself can trust me in that. If they choose not to, that's their choice alone. Whether this collab gets 4 entries or 400, I will compile it all no matter what. And I will upload a final copy. And if that proves enough to the pros, I'll make a sequal in which they can join as well.

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Seriously guys. A collab isn't made to entertain the people that are watching, a collab is made to make something fun with your friends that you all can be proud of. Who cares if people are uninterested or bored watching it - which isn't even going to be the case.

Green light Alpha! If I wasn't working so much I'd sign up but at this point I know I won't finish an entry. ahaha

This is going to be crazy! (:

P.S. I am in love with your attitude.

Thanks a lot, bruh! I'm giving plenty of time, so you might be able to join if you want after all. Small entries (maybe a few seconds long) are accepted as well if you don't have much time.

I would like to point out that exporting an animation to an AVI. will make working with symbols difficult. There are a ton of restrictions that happen whenever you try and export animations. So be careful on that. Also, you are tailoring a lot of responsibility, what with making yourself liable for adding sound for other people and doing much of the compiling if people do not send you Flash 8 files. Although I do not really want to tell you to tone it back, don't let anyone to take advantage of you.

I would suggest not accepting entries past flash 8 to be honest. Although you could export AVIs and compile with those, wouldn't that mean that you would have to export all entries as AVIs which would decrease their quality? If I'm saying something wrong and assuming then you go right ahead and keep going!

Another option would be to download a trial of Flash CS6 or whatever the new one is around the due date and then open the FLA files with the new one since you can open older files in the new versions but not by vice versa. This makes it so that you can accept ALL FLAs as long as they are below CS6 or the newest version that you have.

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I would like to point out that exporting an animation to an AVI. will make working with symbols difficult. There are a ton of restrictions that happen whenever you try and export animations. So be careful on that. Also, you are tailoring a lot of responsibility, what with making yourself liable for adding sound for other people and doing much of the compiling if people do not send you Flash 8 files. Although I do not really want to tell you to tone it back, don't let anyone to take advantage of you.

I would suggest not accepting entries past flash 8 to be honest. Although you could export AVIs and compile with those, wouldn't that mean that you would have to export all entries as AVIs which would decrease their quality? If I'm saying something wrong and assuming then you go right ahead and keep going!

Another option would be to download a trial of Flash CS6 or whatever the new one is around the due date and then open the FLA files with the new one since you can open older files in the new versions but not by vice versa. This makes it so that you can accept ALL FLAs as long as they are below CS6 or the newest version that you have.

That's an amazing idea actually. To download the trail of the new version then use it to compile the entries above flash 8 is a good idea. I've also been practicing adding sounds so that wouldn't be much of a problem, but if the entry is really long and I'm really busy, then I'll ask them to add their own sound effects. And I've prepared for the parts using AVI. I've allowed any resolution with a 5:4 ratio if the participant wants it less pixelated. So if they want, they can send me a 1000 by 800 AVI instead of a 500 by 400. And in the case of not being able to import or export the anims, I've got plenty of video converting programs to help import a stubborn video and I've got everything set up to export anims, and I've heard of problems with exporting anims that are too big, so I'm prepared to make separate parts If necessary.

Oh wow! Now I'm bashing him. I was only telling him MY OPINION and ADVICE cause I've done a few collabs already.
I wasn't discouraging him, I was telling him what MIGHT happen, which I wasn't sure if he knows or not.
If he does, then that's fine. If he doesn't, he learns something new. So I don't see what's the loss of saying it.

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I'm not telling him to stop,

Could you see this? Or you didn't read what I've said at all.

So just stop making it look like I'm doing something bad here. THANKS FOR THE HELP I'M GIVING, YOU'RE VERY VERY MUCH WELCOME TOO!

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Oh wow! Now I'm bashing him. I was only telling him MY OPINION and ADVICE cause I've done a few collabs already.
I wasn't discouraging him, I was telling him what MIGHT happen, which I wasn't sure if he knows or not.
If he does, then that's fine. If he doesn't, he learns something new. So I don't see what's the loss of saying it.


Could you see this? Or you didn't read what I've said at all.

So just stop making it look like I'm doing something bad here. THANKS FOR THE HELP I'M GIVING, YOU'RE VERY VERY MUCH WELCOME TOO!

Nor did I say you were bashing him.

Relax, I only said "demotivating":

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I'm not telling him to stop, I'm just saying this is likely to fail or even if it gets finished, it will have a low quality. So a long ass collab with a low quality is just not pleasant to watch, people might just not finish watching it all. Which makes the whole collab, as a result, a fail.

You didn't promote him to stop, which is true but you did promote him a cause on why he should stop. All this negativity only broods negativity so let's just stop this right now. This is not our problem but his. However, if you have the need to further discuss your part, do it VIA PM or VM so it won't derail the thread further.

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Nor did I say you were bashing him.

Relax, I only said "demotivating":



You don't promote him to stop, which is true but you do promote him a cause on why he should stop. All this negativity only broods negativity so let's just stop this right now. This is not our problem but his. However, if you have the need to further discuss your part, do it VIA PM or VM so it won't derail the thread further.

Ever heard of being realistic? Cause that's how you should be in life.
And I wasn't even pointing what I said to you.

It was for this guy right here.

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Reb, I'm sure he is already aware of what's what so stop bashing him with your discouragement please , saying it as politely as possible.

It's OK alpha I believe in you :3

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Ever heard of being realistic? Cause that's how you should be in life.
And I wasn't even pointing what I said to you.

It was for this guy right here.

Stating the term "Realistic" in an artistic world is an oxymoron per se. Again, it's a hobby not a business. Weighing out the odds and then pushing through it is his decision, not ours. Whether he accepts or rejects our advice's are not ours but his. Also, I apologize if I came out too aggressive even though it wasn't pointed out towards me. My bad.

Anyway, you guys also need to cut Rebellion some slack. None of his statements were personal in any way and it was for the improvement of this, harsh or not. I think some of you may have misunderstood what I posted and thought I was attacking Rebellion for being the "Pessimistic" guy but I'm not. In fact, I never pointed fingers. All I said is to stop with all of these negativity.

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Stating the term "Realistic" in an artistic world is an oxymoron per se. Again, it's a hobby not a business. Weighing out the odds and then pushing through it is his decision, not ours. Whether he accepts or rejects our advice's are not ours but his. Also, I apologize if I came out too aggressive even though it wasn't pointed out towards me. My bad.

Anyway, you guys also need to cut Rebellion some slack. None of his statements were personal in any way and it was for the improvement of this, harsh or not.

Well sorry for not considering animation and art as a hobby. I'm just telling what I know about the outcome and the process, be it fun or not.


And like I said, you guys are VERY VERY MUCH welcome for the things I do for you. Thanks too!

For the record, I was telling the negatives on doing a collab like this, but not saying he should stop or not. It's a caution for him to know.

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Well sorry for not considering animation and art as a hobby. I'm just telling what I know about the outcome and the process, be it fun or not.


And like I said, you guys are VERY VERY MUCH welcome for the things I do for you. Thanks too!

For the record, I was telling the negatives on doing a collab like this, but not saying he should stop or not. It's a caution for him to know.

Again, there's nothing wrong with that. It's what you call a "Constructive Criticism".

Also, all this sarcasm isn't really my cup of tea. You're coming off as if you're annoyed to all of these and only Silent pretty much called you out on this so I don't really see the big deal. Can't we just leave this behind our backs and just forget about this?

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Again, there's nothing wrong with that. It's what you call a "Constructive Criticism".

Also, all this sarcasm isn't really my cup of tea. You're coming off as if you're annoyed to all of these and only Silent pretty much called you out on this so I don't really see the big deal. Can't we just leave this behind our backs and just forget about this?

Well that's how it always go anyways.