Is it really that easy? I mean, we all who frequent this place are vets which had reached 2k at some point in the past. And our skill level are still kinda high. But back then when we were still newbs getting 2k is a big deal.

Well, maybe it's easier now because no one good ranks lol.

I disagree

I consider my self a good Chaos player with reasonable understanding of the game and i have never broke 1800

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I disagree

I consider my self a good Chaos player with reasonable understanding of the game and i have never broke 1800

> Order Game Strategy
> Chaos

seems legit

Cool lewis, that's why you're the next David Kim with your 5-star game balance suggestions.
Here's how to get to chaos 1800. (OvC and CvC)

Start 1212
Then go: (Chaos) 1616161616 (Order) 121216161616161616
Then get some mana and make a dead / wing
Then make juggerdead/wing
Win

TL;DR Use shit tons of bombers.

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> Order Game Strategy
> Chaos

seems legit

Cool lewis, that's why you're the next David Kim with your 5-star game balance suggestions.
Here's how to get to chaos 1800. (OvC and CvC)

Start 1212
Then go: (Chaos) 1616161616 (Order) 121216161616161616
Then get some mana and make a dead / wing
Then make juggerdead/wing
Win

TL;DR Use shit tons of bombers.

No, in CvO it's 12122122121616161. This is for early game.

So bombers? I use them pretty good for killing miners and weakening swords and archers running them in behind crawlers. But what i really need to know are the main order counters cause if they do what i want which is just charge ing with their swords i can attack with draw attack with draw etc :) but what are the proper if you like order counters?

Lewis can you show some replays of your general strat?

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@Hash Yeah my bad, I got carried away with 2349082398054398059804390865

@Lewis Look, saying you're "pretty good" with no comparison doesn't mean anything, and if you could use them pretty good you'd be higher rated ._.

It's not that either, sword archer start is bad macro ;P

Im pretty good as I know that a crawler can't win a 1v1 on a sword thats what i mean. What I'm saying is I'm not a noob i have played chaos for about 6months and get the general game play I'm graded 1600-17000

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Im pretty good as I know that a crawler can't win a 1v1 on a sword thats what i mean. What I'm saying is I'm not a noob i have played chaos for about 6months and get the general game play I'm graded 1600-1700

fyi I fixed something for you

Crawler vs sword it is possible and Ben has done it to me before.

Called crazy micro.
You mentioned order counters.
Well you have to get 5+ crawlers before bombs vs order
Then depending on the situation you must decide on whether you must go with eclipsors or deads then get yourself some tanky jugs and win the game.
That is pretty much how you play chaos.

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fyi I fixed something for you

Crawler vs sword it is possible and Ben has done it to me before.

Called crazy micro.
You mentioned order counters.
Well you have to get 5+ crawlers before bombs vs order
Then depending on the situation you must decide on whether you must go with eclipsors or deads then get yourself some tanky jugs and win the game.
That is pretty much how you play chaos.

It's called anim canceling and moving your mouse and clicking like a hardcore pro l33t gamer

I know about crawler micro I'm talking about u rushing in your sword and i just click attack and let it die my point is i am not a chaos noob I'm 1600

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I know about crawler micro I'm talking about u rushing in your sword and i just click attack and let it die my point is i am not a chaos noob I'm 1600

Thats something that a experienced player should do. Cycle your crawlers out when they are low health, so if they chase that gives free hits from your other crawlers or if they don't go for it then its a crawler saved.
I'm also going to assume you are not building enough bombs, or else swords should not be able to rush right away.

how do you play? like to you use space bar to select units, or do you drag? using space bar isn't advised. my rating went up greatly when i stopped using space bar to select my units in close range.

Space bar is bae.