'sup Jeff

Hey Jeff I was wondering, you've been also talking about integration with the SE section in this forum. Will the new forum actually do so? Or will SE still be its own cul-de-sac?

Also, there's this recent drama recently concerning "SE Mods" that aren't SE Forum Mods. Normally, they should be treated as their own entity and shouldn't meddle with this forum's politics, but recent events are affecting it to the point that it is derailing entire threads and inciting flame wars on either side (will PM you about specifics later). My question is, should there be a way to officially sire them on this forum on some capacity? Like at least give them the cave to discuss things in private. Because I feel like the current drama could've been avoided if one "Mod" just communicated himself better with the rest.

I'm not sure yet. The SE section will get some kind of treatment which will certainly outline their place as a somewhat separate community better than it is now, but the specifics remain to be seen. I have at least 2 different options on it but there's no saying for sure until we progress further.

As for the drama I am aware of it, I am simply at a loss for any course of action. I am in a weird spot where I have to run our community - the animation community - while having a completely unrelated subcommunity I am not a part of shoehorned in the middle of it for reasons I cannot control. Not only that but I have 0 say in the game that is forcing the subcommunity to be where it is. Were it up to me I would have given Stick War it's own forum on the official website and appointed trustworthy people to act as both forum and chat mods so that the community could remain consistent on both platforms. The only thing I can do at this point is appoint mods to cover our forum rules and occasionally relay information to the relevant parties. I cannot step in since their issue has to do with something outside of my reach. Unfortunately I am not very trusting as I have not gotten to know any of the SE chat mods well enough to be comfortable with them having mod status or influence over the rest of the site and the only thing I really see from them are behaviours I wouldn't want our mods to have. That's pretty much why my plan in the upgrade is to give them that better infrastructure to handle their own issues in a way more consistent with the game. Until then I am just not sure what to do. I've already let relevant parties know, so to me it's just a matter of waiting for someone who can help to step in.

Well its great that you have your ear on the ground (saves me from having to PM it). I was actually at a loss as to what you could do, sad as it is. Glad that you're taking steps at least.

I normally don't bother with that place, but the recent event has become very toxic all because 1 guy made a bad mod decision and the other guy wouldn't stop complaining about it.

my two cents: for the sanity of your long-term members please for the love of fuck keep the SE kids in their own containment zone

That would be helpful as well, Jeff. I'm not sure merging SE with the normal forum is a great idea. Any reason why you would?

I don't understand why people are having an issue with this. I mean why not? They are not a bunch of outcasts that don't deserve to be in the general forums.

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That would be helpful as well, Jeff. I'm not sure merging SE with the normal forum is a great idea. Any reason why you would?

It's not a good idea, I'm not sure where this question is coming from? There's no reason I would personally, the point of my last post was highlighting that I want to give them a better place for their community by finding a way to comfortably distinguish themselves. I'm sure the players within that community would much rather have the official forums be tailored to them.

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I don't understand why people are having an issue with this. I mean why not? They are not a bunch of outcasts that don't deserve to be in the general forums.

It's because they're a gaming community. For me it's not about them being outcasts, it's about proper representation. It's very confusing for a lot of newcomers to that game because it links to this entire forum as "the official Stick Empires forums". These forums are supposed to foster creative types, and are set up to cater to them. I often see people posting outside of the SE section with SE questions or comments which is a problem because it's irrelevant to the larger community and doesn't give them the support they need. There are always things we can do to compensate but it's better for everyone to give them their own proper space where they are better represented.

Oh, right. Sorry, from reading the other posts I figured you wanted to merge them.

Does seem logical that they would get their own forums or better representation though.

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It's because they're a gaming community. For me it's not about them being outcasts, it's about proper representation. It's very confusing for a lot of newcomers to that game because it links to this entire forum as "the official Stick Empires forums". These forums are supposed to foster creative types, and are set up to cater to them. I often see people posting outside of the SE section with SE questions or comments which is a problem because it's irrelevant to the larger community and doesn't give them the support they need. There are always things we can do to compensate but it's better for everyone to give them their own proper space where they are better represented.

Alright, I guess in that sense it would be appropriate.
JEFF, What have you done with your posts lol (talking about the multicoloured gif effect).

For those that care Stone and I are working on some time-sensitive tasks at the moment so I haven't had time to collect my thoughts from the last month, I'll be making another update post soon. I'm hoping to get my current work finished and released before I write up a post so that I can talk a bit about what I did and how I accomplished it. It's a sub-project for the new update, but not the update itself. It's something we're going to release before the new update along with the next GTL competition, soon after Stone's work on his adventure game finishes.

What does "soon" mean in Jeffspeak? Gettng a little excited.

Woooooo! Can't wait for this still. Hopefully this happens soon. :D

Leave the man to his work, guys.