A Writing Musclebuilding Thread

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Apr 30, 2015 11:33 AM #1355548
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- can something actually move smoothly but NOT silently?
- im surprised he's even still wearing a shirt to begin with. shouldnt he be perspiring enough to take it off? I dunno, maybe the chamber is air-conditioned?
- I find the nonchalance of this interrogator hilarious. Has the guy ever encountered anything like this before? Even if he read a file, he'd still have to shocked about the real thing. Because if he has met it before we'd at least get to know if that was the case. As it is, it's really out of place.
- Also hilarious is the most interesting feature is that he has a 'mirror for a face' and NOT the fact that a fucking shape-changing mannequin is in the room! Like, is this a universe where mannequins are also normal citizens? What
- wait wait he reached into his own face to produce pen and paper. but clearly the interrogator had none of these things (as described in the intro) so how can the reflection exist? Or is this a magical Plot Device Mirror where the mannequin can just pull anything out of his ass?
- What exactly was the logic going through this interrogator's mind when he "figured out" that the mirror liked playing tricks with well-rested people? Because depriving himself of sleep only seemed to give his own dumbass a major disadvantage with an ILLUSION-WARPING mirror face. I mean, even if he read up on this intel previously, you didn't think the file would be as callous as to say "The Mirror Face calms down when people are cranky from lack of sleep." What if the trigger wasn't how energetic a person is? The interrogator was betting on convinience. Surely other ways might've been more plausible; threatening to crack the mirror (like the mannequin doesnt have Rights anyway which brings me back to the question of what kind of universe is this; are the mannequins citizens?) for one. Or you know, not even bothering to interrogate it at all.
- This mannequin's mind fuckery is nice and all, but what exactly is he here for? What the fuck is going on? If there is no weight the reader can feel for what's at stake, then this is all just going to be a cheap horror movie where we'll be rooting for the weird thing for no reason.


-A door can move smoothly yet have squeaking hinges.

-The shirt was supposed to appear untidy. And I'm sure they have air conditioners. If I wanted to make a story with all the details sorted out I wouldn't do it in a thread where you have to write something every day.

- The idea is that this is a somewhat regular thing for them. He's tired, he doesn't like dealing with the unique characters. This is going on in some RHG-like universe where there's unique characters like the mannequin. And what's to say he hasn't seen the mannequin before? If he's been working for days, as seen from his shirt, there's a good chance he's gotten used to the only visibly weird aspect of the mannequin, being the suit swapping.

- The mirror is how it communicates. The whole suit-swapping aspect isn't the focus of the interrogation. The interrogation is. He isn't going to ask the suits questions.

- He did not reach into his own face. The idea is that it can control the reflections of its mirror. If you looked in it, he can make your reflection blink. Or he could have your reflection sit back, bring some pen or paper from the borders of the mirror where you can't see. It alters the reality of the reflection, but ultimately that does nothing in the real reality except put on a show.

- Because there have been past interrogations, and it could have been eventually figured out that tired people are more receptive. When I'm tired the world gets a bit hazier, and if I'm really tired I start seeing and hearing stuff. It taps into that, pretty much. The more sober you are, the more attentive you can be, the less it can do.

- The story was freehand. I just wanted to start it with an interrogation. It's obvious so far that the interrogator does these things frequently, visible from his relaxed attitude to it all. I'm not going to detail a whole universe just for a few scenes in it, but things will be given more detail as I go on and make connections. Someone said that it had an SCP-like vibe, and that's true. It's meant to appear like a regular interview because in this universe it's a normal thing, the only thing that differs is what weird thing you're going to see interrogated.
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Apr 30, 2015 11:40 AM #1355549
I did more of my writing tonight. Tonight I fell in love and did 1720 words, and I finished my short story. I won't post it here yet, but I'll show it to you guys soon enough.

Chart for 04/30/15 :) (Click to Show)


Again, tell me if I got any of your streaks wrong. I'll fix it up in a jiffy.
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Apr 30, 2015 12:25 PM #1355557
Today is not my break day Devour-san. Wednesday was my breakday, but I skipped it because I forgot to do tuesday.
Btw Hewitt, Esposito is actually a common italian name. It ranks 4th in surnames. So why not?
Can't you shine a machinegun with something? And can't you also lay it down on a table?
I'll change the "ninja" cause your right this time, that was a dumb move.
He was called Linguine because...in this world... there is still racial discrimination.
I focused on the street to offer a bit of contrast.
But I'll read over your notes and do a better job, hopefully.
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May 1, 2015 1:30 PM #1355867
"Day 1(302 words)" (Click to Show)


Day 1.1
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May 1, 2015 1:37 PM #1355869
I spent tonight working on the story I finished last night. I definitely did a decent bit of work, but technically I didn't create any new content. Alas, I'm still writing creatively every day.
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May 1, 2015 1:41 PM #1355870
I'm not much of a writer myself but I'd just like to extend my gratitude to Devour for his inspirational 4 paragraph speech on the front page.

Also, I'll try my best to post here everyday.
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May 1, 2015 2:08 PM #1355875
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Words:366

Got my computer back earlier than I expected~

This was supposed to be the intro to a short wRHG based side-story, but I might use it for a battle intro if/when I challenge/get challenged by someone instead?
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May 1, 2015 10:55 PM #1355974
Eh, sorry. Didn't get a chance to post my stuff yesterday.

Thursday 31th of April :

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EDIT : Here's today's entry.

Words : 488 (Click to Show)
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May 2, 2015 11:04 AM #1356145
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I'm not much of a writer myself but I'd just like to extend my gratitude to Devour for his inspirational 4 paragraph speech on the front page.

Also, I'll try my best to post here everyday.

Muahaha. It may look dramatic, but not writing has been a legit sadness for me. It's really the biggest thing I'm passionate about and it's what I'd truly like to do for a living one day. But I've been going for weeks without writing anything and it's all because I'm wasting my time on pointless crap.

This thread is working for me, I don't have to force myself to start writing when the time for it comes, and I've actually made a decent bit of stuff and improved (Thanks, Hewitt :o ). None of this would have happened if I had spent the time playing videogames or some other mindless thing instead.
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Words:366

Got my computer back earlier than I expected~

This was supposed to be the intro to a short wRHG based side-story, but I might use it for a battle intro if/when I challenge/get challenged by someone instead?

Heh, interesting read. It sounded like you were describing the events of a witty, snarky, flamboyant man. I approve, but I'm too exhausted at the moment to give C&C worth giving. Also bothersome things are going on at work tonight.
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Eh, sorry. Didn't get a chance to post my stuff yesterday.

Thursday 31th of April :

Words : 269 (Click to Show)


EDIT : Here's today's entry.

Words : 488 (Click to Show)

Two day's writing in a single post. Props to you for writing even when others didn't post as well :)

I've a
lways loved stories that are told from a perspective of being written down on a journal. You have my interest.

I did more work on my comp
leted short story tonight. More trimming up, more removing awkward/unnecessary things. I'm gonna record it being read over the weekend and post it on Monday. That'll be my deadline.

This is much harder than making myse
lf write though. I haven't recorded myself speaking before and I don't want to ruin a story I love with my shitty voicework if I don't do a good enough job. Bleh
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May 2, 2015 11:31 AM #1356150
Day 1

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May 3, 2015 3:56 AM #1356434
Day 4,5,6
[Note: This is not a story. Can I put a poem instead?]
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May 3, 2015 12:35 PM #1356655
Day 1
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May 3, 2015 5:48 PM #1356701
It's my break today yay

In on my phone so I'll read your stuff when I can, zero. And Haru, you should look at other rhyming poems and see what they do differently than yours. You didn't follow tons of rules that peoms use to rhyme and flow well :p
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May 3, 2015 5:51 PM #1356702
Yep, sorry about that.
But that's what I'm here for, right? To get criticized and suck it up and make a better thing.
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May 4, 2015 2:34 AM #1356920
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Yeah. Why are you answering my questions when I specifically said that it's not me you should be answering them to.

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**Also, pls do not answer my questions unless you are disagreeing with my CNC. I mean, don't answer them directly. I am asking them because I want you as a writer to realize that your own info is missing or lacking or wrong and by internally answering my questions, you can improve your piece further and explain things better. So don't answer me. Answer to yourself.


The fact that I've noticed the holes means that any normal reader will notice them as well. The questions are for you to answer for yourself. You are already able to answer them; now demonstrate your answer by clarifying it in your rewrite and succeeding efforts. You cannot just jump to a foregone conclusion and expect a reader to pick up on your scenario without adequate set-ups unless you are writing from the middle.

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I wouldn't do it in a thread where you have to write something every day.


That is your prerogative. But just as how you choose to write in white heat, I have chosen to edit in cold blood.




Onwards.

Crank2
- so the room has eyes and didn't stray?
- sculpted like a statue...as opposed to what? And to be honest, I think the word you're looking for is 'chiseled'. To say that it's sculpted sounds gay because you sculpt with clay. But you chisel with rock, and it's clear in the next sentence that you meant to flaunt how hard his muscles are.
- I think you mean his bone structure, not his body is a V. Actually no I don't know what you mean. A "V-shaped" body is a terrible way to describe a buff adonis unless the speaker is a fan of Paul Dini.
- There is no such thing as a "square chin". That would imply that his entire face is a perfect equillateral. You're just concerned about the angle of his chin, so to lose the meaning of 'square' in another context is confusing. Moreso, when has a math test ever been 'square'. We know that there's a square root symbol, but that isn't exactly common or prevalent in the public eye. So the metaphor is kinda weak if not forced.
- I know you were trying to go for the theme of the FF, but there's a difference between 'describing traits' and 'writing a trashy romance novel'. I swear to god I thought your protagonist was just checking him out, what with describing his ever-boneable features and that perfect shirtless chest. There isn't even any sort of reaction to these observations---like is he disgusted or shocked that the human body could ever be that awesome? He's sort of just glad to see them like some yandere who's denying it. Point is, are you pointing out that the trait that you hate is his vanity? Or the fact that he's really really hot for a guy?

Saul1
- If you're going to call something a utopia, then it's a waste in exercise to attempt to define it. Ergo, everything in the 1st and 2nd paragraph is a waste imo. Just say the place is a utopia after a few off-hand observations. EDIT: reading it later, I realized that you are literally calling the place the Great Utopia. That's so retarded. It's like you're calling your own hometown, Hometown.
***Addendum, there's nothing wrong with calling something the Great Utopia; my point here is that you chose to describe the town by defining the word Utopia anyway.
- you can't walk on gemstones. only gemstone roads. This is confusing.
- she seemed to be glowing I can understand, but you paired it up with gorgeous...so....she isn't really gorgeous to begin with?
- if the man closed his eyes and looked up, he wouldnt see anything at all.
- lolwhat, so the man just didn't freeze or anything, didn't feel the hands slip from his fingers. He literally looked at what he thought was something and in a split-second just could not register anything else but the act of dancing. This isn't a turn-based strategy game. You can't just "go back to dancing" when shit like that blindsides you and you're holding someone mid-dance.
- the next paragraph is the missing 'turn based action'. You should've merged the act of taking someone away in the same paragraph as being taken away. This isn't a movie.
- Show don't tell. Don't tell us he's blind. Describe the whiteness invading his eyes and the darkness surrounding him. Describe all 5 of his senses being deprived and toyed with. This is especially egregious with the "touch of ecstacy" because its already established that they're in some kind of utopia. So what the hell is more ecstatic than being in utopia? Didn't the man already feel good when he was dancing and having fun at the festival-that-never-ends? Did your one word ("Climax") imply that the divine being just gave him an orgasm to stun him?
- So the pain came from the person tearing his hair and not him exactly?

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- He swivelled around? So he made a slow-as-fuck 180, then made a mad dash for the door? I think you just wanted a fancier term for 'turning' and it turned out to sound alot stupider than it meant. badum-ksh.
- You're describing the nametag bounce back for the benefit of the readers like it's a movie, when you should be describing how the Interrogator felt a snag from his own shirt because this story is about him and his perspective.
- Unless this interrogator was a fat-ass, even if he was sitting really close to begin with, he wouldn't really 'rise' from his position without instinctively backing away from the table first. this renders the "nametag clipping" scene improbable. Instead of sacrificing what looked good in your head, simply describing the nametag from the getgo would've been preferrable.
- You already described the mannequin prior. Describing it again in the exact same way is redundant.
- so he didn't see the machine first before seeing the note? Did the coffee maker suddenly disappear just to show him the note then magically re-appear just so he could slap it?
- yes, hiding your nametag is a good idea to avoid being mindfucked by the mind-reading mirror mannequin
- "probably still"? what possessed him to rationalize that he would still be when he's already been mindfucked up the wazoo. There is no pretense to let him know if this is a flashback or a dream that he would bother to check. But since he mentioned that the mannequin was still there then we know this has happened before. So he should've known better by now.
- the entire nightmare sequence is marred by the fact that you are puppetting 3 people, 2 of which have the same name with a different prefix. To bring credence to the unknowable abject horror of this scene you should've just stuck to one POV instead. It would have us asking alot of questions, but it would also make us afraid because of these questions.
- in addition, everything is so mechanical. this happened. then this. then that guy looked at those things. then this guy touched him. It's like you're watching a cutscene from a game and its expected you put the pieces together yourself. The difference here is, there is NO context whatsoever, nothing to go on save for the vague hint that the mannequin has mindfuck powers.
- so was the "loyal subject" just standing there the whole time?
- being freestyle doesn't give you an excuse to be convoluted. It's like saying you splashed an entire canvas around and did a few strokes to capture an image that looks entirely different, then mention that it's actually a Jackson Pollock to escape embarrassment. writing what you want whenever you can does not excuse you from the rules of storytelling. otherwise nobody is going to get it.

Alright, you've been seeing alot of "as opposed to what" phrases by me recently so I'm going to give ya'll a writing tip for it: Just because it sounds right doesn't mean it should BE right. Green plants are always a given so to mention is redundant unless an otherwise color is significant to the story. To say that someone's abdomen is 'sculpted' already telegraphs a statue-like metaphor (and a bad one at that, read above). Similies and Metaphors are meant to make the reader think, not to state the obvious or the obviously cliche. I'm sure we've heard "cold as ice" for as long as we've lived. Surely there are much more creative ways to portray how cold something is. Use your heads and dazzle.

Oh by the way, attempts to sound witty by using alternative words for the same phrases will not work. So I'm not sure if that's what Crank tried to do when he just substituted Chiseled with Sculpted because the latter sounded different and he didn't want to be cliche...intentional or not, don't do it. We'll know. I also don't understand that forced square math quiz metaphor. If you find that you can't work a metaphor well, then don't even try to and expect someone to 'get' it. Same goes for Devour's "musical chairs of justice".

***Actually let me expound on your example, Error. When I first mentioned this, I didn't mean that you should omit this. It's entirely possible that you're trying to portray a post-apoc setting and plants are probably a rarity so to say a "green plant" is there means that it's significant. What I'm saying in my last cnc is that if that were the case, then you ought to show the reader that plants are a rarity instead of saying theres a green plant here. Have the scavenger marvel at how he's never seen anything like this save for in books and stories he's heard during the Second Stone Age. There is so much you can build from a single phrase and to dismiss it just to get it out of the way is cheap in itself.

Also, I've been mentioning alot of "this isn't a movie" phrases so here's another tip: This isn't a movie. If it plays good in your head. If it sounds good in your head. Then it might not play the same for people. There's a reason why the movie version of books are drastically different. Sometimes, you just can't explain a scene properly in a certain medium unless you're skillful enough to do so. But to literally paint the scene as if your narrator is the camera is not the way to do it.