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Wither (Marvel) vs Rex Salazar (Generator Rex)

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May 10, 2015 7:00 PM #1359850
Actually, it was a real battered woman's shelter (terrifying experience that was actually pretty calm, I just don't like being in fenced in areas I can't leave of my own free will). Onto your points:

-Despite this being a fight where their general fighting morality isn't totally present, the conditions of the fight aren't to kill, they're to win. That means that to an extent, we can still use their personality traits, which is why I list the ones that are relevant, and not full on personality analysis.

-Rex has shown that he'll rush on unknown enemies all the time. This is a stupid behavior trait, but do note that all he knows about is EVOs. Just the same as the previous thread, they have no knowledge of each other's abilities, and with that in mind, Rex could assume Wither is just another EVO. Rushing in would be his tactic until he established what Wither's abilities are, in which case his intelligence would kick in and he'd switch to ranged combat.

-Rex is established to defeating enemies without killing intent, but with intent to remove their ability to fight then attempt to cure them. Whether he'd attempt to cure Wither or not can be argued, but the fact remains that Wither would be out for blood for the get-go, so the beginning exchanges would determine the battle. If Wither gets a good grab on Rex, then he can effectively shut down enough of Rex's body that he can't use his nanites to regenerate it. If he loses a limb, he loses access to some of his weapons, and if he loses some essential chunk of body, he'll just die altogether.
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May 10, 2015 7:38 PM #1359881
What exactly are we basing it on when we say that Rex will assume Wither is another EVO?
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May 10, 2015 7:46 PM #1359892
I'm gonna vote for Rex, he's got cannons and can control random machines and shit.
Wither has withering. Rex can have a huge ass sword.
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May 10, 2015 7:47 PM #1359893
In the general GR Universe, every living thing is infected by nanites, and those with active nanites are called EVOs. Most EVOs have no control over their active nanites, hence why they look monstrous, but there are some who look relatively normal or with monstrous features but retain intelligence. Wither can fit into both categories, looking normal and monstrous when his vampiric face is exposed.

Examples include:
Different Human EVOs (Click to Show)



Can you argue that Wither, with a vampiric face out, doesn't fit the general morphology of Human EVOs that have control over their nanites?

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I'm gonna vote for Rex, he's got cannons and can control random machines and shit.
Wither has withering. Rex can have a huge ass sword.


If you're going to argue Rex, then back it up with more than that. Also, read that Wither is also a fucking vampire.
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May 10, 2015 7:52 PM #1359897
So...Why does the fact that he's a vampire have to do with the fact he can't just slice him in half lol.
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May 10, 2015 7:54 PM #1359900
Azure, its been lovely having these debates with you, and you know I would love to carry on. But as long as people can walk in, and not give us the courtesy of reading our posts before posting themselves (sort of like the debate thread rules) and walk away scot-free, I will not be engaging in any of these further debates. If you want to have intelligent, counter-pointing debates, let me know after you throw out certain retards who are unwilling to articulate their arguments into sentences.
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May 10, 2015 7:55 PM #1359903
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So...Why does the fact that he's a vampire have to do with the fact he can't just slice him in half lol.


How's about there's this thing where Rex's nanites are considered semi-organic, and able to be withered the exact same as anything else organic, which I said in the first post. And it isn't as if this is the first time he's destroyed "semi-organic metals," he could wither away Colossus' semi-organic titanium body.

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Azure, its been lovely having these debates with you, and you know I would love to carry on. But as long as people can walk in, and not give us the courtesy of reading our posts before posting themselves (sort of like the debate thread rules) and walk away scot-free, I will not be engaging in any of these further debates. If you want to have intelligent, counter-pointing debates, let me know after you throw out certain retards who are unwilling to articulate their arguments into sentences.


As much as I want to, I can't. Although, as moderator of this section, I am considering enacting some new rules, which I'll propose in the BatCave.
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May 10, 2015 8:00 PM #1359913
Best of luck with that. There is some shit going on in the Chat Thread too. Anyway, my stance is firm. I am not going to waste my time arguing if the debate is going to be treated like kindergarten garbage. Maybe that was your intention, I don't know. But I thought you wanted to be like something in the Debate section with proper reasoned arguments and debates. Thats what I thought it would be. If I find out that it WILL be that way, I will re-join the debate. Until then, I'll have to pass. But I really did enjoy both topics, and I thank you for it.
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May 10, 2015 8:34 PM #1359994
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How's about there's this thing where Rex's nanites are considered semi-organic, and able to be withered the exact same as anything else organic, which I said in the first post. And it isn't as if this is the first time he's destroyed "semi-organic metals," he could wither away Colossus' semi-organic titanium body.



As much as I want to, I can't. Although, as moderator of this section, I am considering enacting some new rules, which I'll propose in the BatCave.



None of that had to do with the fact he's a vampire. :P
But I can see your point...But Rex could deal some pretty heavy damage fast enough if he needed too.
Plus, he's got a cannon, I think it's fair to assume he isn't being a idiot, and he jumps away to use it. :P
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May 10, 2015 8:40 PM #1360008
Setto, for fucks sake, we've already discussed all this dude, with the canons and whether he is an idiot or not, and come to various conclusions. Can't you add anything fucking new, or at least GO THROUGH what we've already discussed? Jesus.
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May 10, 2015 8:44 PM #1360013
I didn't see those conclusions...
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May 10, 2015 8:46 PM #1360016
I've gotta side totally with Nish here. This thread is only 3 pages. There is very little effort involved reading through it.

On the first page, I explained that his Vampirism gives him enhanced strength and durability, as well as a "Vampire Face." These traits mean that he isn't easy to simply kill. I also noted that Rex is known for rushing headfirst into battle, and making strategies afterwards if "Beat It Up" doesn't work. So there's a good period of time where Wither has the advantage over Rex. It's whether or not that advantage is enough to end the battle that determines everything else, really, and you're just saying with a basic look over what they have that Rex wins, and that's not something I'll just let fly.
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May 10, 2015 8:49 PM #1360022
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I didn't see those conclusions...


You would have if you made even a tiny effort to read the thread, but you decided not to because you never do read them.
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May 10, 2015 8:53 PM #1360030
In that case, with the fact you said it would take about 15 seconds for him to die from withering, even if Rex does blow him up, they would both die.
Let's say Rex rushing in mechanical sword blazing. Wither gets him, and he resorts to long range. If wither goes down, wouldn't Rex still die?
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May 10, 2015 8:56 PM #1360034
Lets assume Rex runs in head-first and impales Wither with a sword. Wither would die almost instantly, so then we need to determine whether Wither's power would remain in his dead body. Because when Rex's machines are damaged he can fix them or summon new ones. So basically, even if he charges in head-first, if he uses his sword, he could kill Wither before Wither has a chance to do anything.
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