IDK the proper section for this.
I've seen all sorts of topics on motivation, creativity, and passion about art in general, but none of this really matters if you can't get shit DONE. You have a ton of ideas but once you get to work, you get lazy, slack off, and end up animating a couple frames in an entire day. BOY YOU NEED DISCIPLINE, and this time your parents aren't gonna talk you (or beat your ass) into it, you gotta get the fuck up and do it yourself.

BOOM:
http://www.redlemonclub.com/motivation/7-simple-acts-daily-self-discipline-will-make-better-artist-ninja/

BAM:
http://www.thefeelgoodlifestyle.com/willpower-discipline.html

BOOSH:


And an obligatory:


Now GTFO social media and get stuff done.

mfw I'm hyped to draw/animate then my brain reminds me of others things I can do besides that

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mfw I'm hyped to draw/animate then my brain reminds me of others things I can do besides that

you are your brain. doesn't sound like you're all that hyped to draw or animate if you can very easily abandon it for something else.

this sounds pretty reminiscent of jeff's thread from 2013. here we are two years later making even lazier attempts to motivate each other. hell I was just saying this exact shit 8 days ago in the dojo. maybe we should just all take up knitting or something.


edit: might as well cross post this here.

it's very difficult to function as an adult unless you're able to suck it up and do what needs to be done on a daily basis. the vast majority of people are capable of doing this in at least one area of their lives.

most people around here can't do it with animation, probably because it's a time and labor intensive process to create a decent full-length animation by yourself and it's hard to put your mind to it when there are entire communities ready and waiting to pat you on the back for the 3 second punch-kick combo you pulled out of your ass in 15 minutes.

also the stick figure animation community has become such an echo chamber that people honestly believe it's somehow a "pure" form of animation which focuses on the technical aspect of the medium, failing to realize it's usually at the total expense of anything resembling creativity or originality and that this is a very bad thing to encourage. which leads to people making uninspired, boring pieces of work that even they can't commit their effort towards creating in the first place. then they wonder why they can't find "motivation" to trudge through yet another series of punches and kicks that we've all seen thousands of times before in the last 15 years.


or maybe everyone actually is trying their best and it's just really hard to find discipline. but I doubt it.

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you are your brain. doesn't sound like you're all that hyped to draw or animate if you can very easily abandon it for something else.

I can accept that statement, my hype isn't what it used to be, but it peaks my interests in ways I can't explain.
Guess that's why I just lurk, and watch instead of actually doing something...

Quote from Salt

This is exactly the problem. Hype fades away fast. You need to force yourself through finishing things it becomes habit. People aren't putting any effort and then they wonder why they can't finish things, and effort not only into the actual process only, but also into the IDEA, like Exilement said. If it's a terrible idea even the most disciplined will get bored, but they'll still work on it faithfully.

Discipline isn't hard. I started pushing myself recently towards working in a more disciplined manner. I got to work on a part of a project and made myself do it despite being bored. I didn't get off until I was done with the day's goal. I'm not usually the most disciplined person, but I acknowledged my fault and am actively improving in the manner. All it took is a small bit of will and not being a lazy fuck.

Any more exercises you've done to improve your discipline?
By all means please share

set aside time to yourself and do literally anything that requires sustained mental effort. drawing, animating, stacking rocks in your backyard in order of descending size, doesn't matter. set a goal that will take you more than half an hour to accomplish. once you start getting bored or feel like doing something else, keep going. do this until you realize the benefits of hard work and real effort outweigh whatever bullshit you're currently doing in its place. that's all there is to it.

if that feeling never comes, maybe drawing and animating aren't worthwhile uses of your time. find something else that fits that description.

Muhammad Ali said something along the lines of 'I don't count my sit-ups. I do them until it starts hurting, then I start counting, because that's when it really counts'

I always set aside as much free time as I can get weekly to drawing or animating, but mostly drawing. The hype only comes for me when I'm storyboarding, then It fades when I open flash.

I once read that your subconscious has a tendency of making your decisions for you, which adds to the problem. Although since I read it from Cracked, I don't know how much of that is true.

Quote from R.D.Luffy

I can accept that statement, my hype isn't what it used to be, but it peaks my interests in ways I can't explain.
Guess that's why I just lurk, and watch instead of actually doing something...

I'm sorry I know this is off topic, but will you people stop using this word?! I see it alot, and its twice as embarrassing in the Lit section. I don't think you're using it in the way that it's meant to be used.

Interest never peaks. Interest is piqued.

Reference:
http://blog.dictionary.com/pique-peak-peek/
http://www.vocabulary.com/articles/chooseyourwords/peak-peek-pique/


With that said, everyone just watches without actually do something. Those that do, almost never have the discipline to move forward. So we get alot of failed collabs, clans, and RHG battles because ideas have saturated us. Haven't you ever sat down and thought to yourself, what if I made a stick version of x? Why does it have to be a fighting anim all the goddamn time? If you open your mind to every single thing, you wouldn't be so anticlimactic in your efforts.

Quote from R.D.Luffy

Any more exercises you've done to improve your discipline?
By all means please share

Get a calendar for every single thing you want to do. 1 Calendar for animating. 1 Calendar for writing. 1 Calendar for learning a new skill. Etc.

Encircle the weekend after every 2 weeks. This will be your reward day.

Then, spend exactly 1 hour doing the thing you want to discipline yourself for. ONE HOUR. STOP AFTER THE HOUR IS OVER. Then mark your calendar and do the same thing again tommorow. Rinse and repeat.

You can choose to slack off on the reward day or continue contributing that one hour it's your choice.

In the event that you do slack off and skip a day...well, this part is really subjective as it is you who wants to be disciplined so you have to punish yourself; no games or TV for a week or some shit. Nobody but you can tell yourself what you want and what you need to do.

Guaranteed that you'll get into animating or whatever it is you want to do within 6 months time.


Later on, if you feel like you're up to it, you can shift the hours. Say you really have to do something you can't dedicate an hour to. You can then transfer that necesary hour to the next day. You can then do whatever that day but you have to contribute TWO hours the next day.

Quote from Hewitt

I'm sorry I know this is off topic, but will you people stop using this word?! I see it alot, and its twice as embarrassing in the Lit section. I don't think you're using it in the way that it's meant to be used.

Interest never peaks. Interest is piqued.

Thanks for the fix hew, it must have irritated the mess outta you XD

Not really

Just dont do it

Quote from Hewitt

Get a calendar for every single thing you want to do. 1 Calendar for animating. 1 Calendar for writing. 1 Calendar for learning a new skill. Etc.

Encircle the weekend after every 2 weeks. This will be your reward day.

Then, spend exactly 1 hour doing the thing you want to discipline yourself for. ONE HOUR. STOP AFTER THE HOUR IS OVER. Then mark your calendar and do the same thing again tommorow. Rinse and repeat.

You can choose to slack off on the reward day or continue contributing that one hour it's your choice.

In the event that you do slack off and skip a day...well, this part is really subjective as it is you who wants to be disciplined so you have to punish yourself; no games or TV for a week or some shit. Nobody but you can tell yourself what you want and what you need to do.

Guaranteed that you'll get into animating or whatever it is you want to do within 6 months time.


Later on, if you feel like you're up to it, you can shift the hours. Say you really have to do something you can't dedicate an hour to. You can then transfer that necesary hour to the next day. You can then do whatever that day but you have to contribute TWO hours the next day.

Well....I do have a question if you don't mind...
Why put so much effort into planning what your going to do, from point to point.
Won't that just decrease your motivation of doing it?

How so?

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Well....I do have a question if you don't mind...
Why put so much effort into planning what your going to do, from point to point.
Won't that just decrease your motivation of doing it?

As opposed to just starting off blind and seeing where it goes?

Lets reverse engineer the situation:

Positive results lead to Motivation.
Realistic expectations lead to positive results.
Careful planning leads to realistic expectations.