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Jan 9, 2016 5:48 PM #1429462
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Dorf is slow, has a bad recovery, little range, and has a large hitbox, making him a pretty bad character.
King Dedede is slow, but has a pretty good recovery.
Falco has a bad recovery, but he's pretty fast.
Snake has a large hitbox, but has a good recovery and range.


What was the point of saying this, lmao
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Jan 9, 2016 7:26 PM #1429480
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What was the point of saying this, lmao


I'm saying Ganondorf combines all the other characters' cons and puts them together.
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Jan 10, 2016 12:03 AM #1429513
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I'm saying Ganondorf combines all the other characters' cons and puts them together.


Those aren't really good arguments for him being a bad character though(except the part about him being slow.) Giving Ganon a good recovery and a smaller hitbox wouldn't make him that much better at all, what really matters in Sm4sh is combo potential. If Ganon had a good grab, minimal landing lag and fast aerials he'd immediately become a good character, especially considering his power(maybe I'm extaggerating a bit but honestly, it probably would.) Changing his hitbox would only make him the slightest bit better, same with recovery. You're focusing on the wrong disadvantages here.

Despite, who are you to tell someone that their main sucks? You use DK, he isn't exactly winning any tournaments either. Your lack of knowledge on the meta is severely damaging your arguments.

E: sorry for being a little bit pissy, I'm just really tired right now
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Jan 10, 2016 1:15 AM #1429518
salty suite 2016 here we gooo

Went to another tournament today. A lot of tough competition. Sadly, I didn't make it out of pools (won 3 sets, lost 2, ended up 3rd overall in the pool group. I needed to get into top 2). What annoys me is that I had close sets with the 2 people and I bodied everyone else ._.

I'm focusing on Fox now, he's super good.

Also, if you guys want to get into the competitive scene, a good place to start is the Discord character group chats that we now have. If you go on smashboards and search for the one you need, you should find it :)
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Jan 10, 2016 5:44 AM #1429551
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You use DK, he isn't exactly winning any tournaments either. Your lack of knowledge on the meta is severely damaging your arguments.

E: sorry for being a little bit pissy, I'm just really tired right now


Yes, I use DK, but I only play non-competitively.
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Jan 10, 2016 5:49 AM #1429554
If I do play competitively, I mostly play with Meta Knight (In SSB4 he's not unfair XD), Roy, or Robin...
Actually, speaking of Robin, the only thing I have to say about him is...
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Jan 10, 2016 12:37 PM #1429625
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salty suite 2016 here we gooo

Went to another tournament today. A lot of tough competition. Sadly, I didn't make it out of pools (won 3 sets, lost 2, ended up 3rd overall in the pool group. I needed to get into top 2). What annoys me is that I had close sets with the 2 people and I bodied everyone else ._.

I'm focusing on Fox now, he's super good.

Also, if you guys want to get into the competitive scene, a good place to start is the Discord character group chats that we now have. If you go on smashboards and search for the one you need, you should find it :)


That sucks man, lmao. I'm actually going to a tournament in february(entering melee singles, sm4sh singles and sm4sh doubles) but it's a pretty small tournament so I'm hoping I'll do well. I've been practicing the shit out of melee so I'm hoping that that will go somewhat okay and if it doesn't I'll just have to learn from it.

(My main in melee is falco BTW, dem shine combos tho. Thinking of having Marth as a secondary too.)

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Yes, I use DK, but I only play non-competitively.

Then why complain about Ganon?
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Jan 10, 2016 4:38 PM #1429640
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Those aren't really good arguments for him being a bad character though(except the part about him being slow.) Giving Ganon a good recovery and a smaller hitbox wouldn't make him that much better at all, what really matters in Sm4sh is combo potential. If Ganon had a good grab, minimal landing lag and fast aerials he'd immediately become a good character, especially considering his power(maybe I'm extaggerating a bit but honestly, it probably would.) Changing his hitbox would only make him the slightest bit better, same with recovery. You're focusing on the wrong disadvantages here.

Despite, who are you to tell someone that their main sucks? You use DK, he isn't exactly winning any tournaments either. Your lack of knowledge on the meta is severely damaging your arguments.

E: sorry for being a little bit pissy, I'm just really tired right now

Ganon wouldn't need a combo game. If he was faster, had less landing lag, had a better OoS option, he would be thousand times better. Also a reliable kill set-up off a throw works. His absurd knockback and power makes up for a lack of combo game.

At this point he's basically a worse Bowser.
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Jan 10, 2016 6:18 PM #1429655
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Ganon wouldn't need a combo game. If he was faster, had less landing lag, had a better OoS option, he would be thousand times better. Also a reliable kill set-up off a throw works. His absurd knockback and power makes up for a lack of combo game.

At this point he's basically a worse Bowser.


Actually Bowser exchanged some of his power for some surprising speed in the new SSB, his smash attacks are still powerful, but overall, he has boat-loads more agility.
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Jan 10, 2016 6:19 PM #1429656
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Ganon wouldn't need a combo game. If he was faster, had less landing lag, had a better OoS option, he would be thousand times better. Also a reliable kill set-up off a throw works. His absurd knockback and power makes up for a lack of combo game.

At this point he's basically a worse Bowser.


My point still stands that changing his hitbox or giving him a good recovery wouldn't really make him a viable character though.
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Jan 10, 2016 8:24 PM #1429681
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Actually Bowser exchanged some of his power for some surprising speed in the new SSB, his smash attacks are still powerful, but overall, he has boat-loads more agility.


Yeah, I think Bowser got significantly buffed in Sm4sh.
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Jan 10, 2016 8:26 PM #1429682
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Yeah, I think Bowser got significantly buffed in Sm4sh.


Mostly in terms of speed, he's actually one of the better characters now that I think about it. He's decently fast, very strong, pretty hard to launch, and has good knock-back. All around a good fighter. His only really weakness is his large hitbox.
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Jan 11, 2016 6:00 AM #1429768
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Mostly in terms of speed, he's actually one of the better characters now that I think about it. He's decently fast, very strong, pretty hard to launch, and has good knock-back. All around a good fighter. His only really weakness is his large hitbox.


His hitbox can be solved by rolling a lot. :P
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Jan 11, 2016 6:16 AM #1429775
Rolling a lot is a weakness against people (aka: me) who catch onto that and start predicting and punishing your rolls.

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Jan 11, 2016 6:34 AM #1429778
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