"75 ish seconds"

*60 seconds

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Ase, you are just wrong.. other than long maps, shadows are worthless versus medusa/marrow... it takes two shadows to kill one... plus two upgrades... that is 75 ish seconds... medusa and marrow on all the med/short maps already up your bases arse...

just be more accurate, shadows can actually one hit kill marrow/medusa instead of taking two hits
they are definitely not worthless, in my DM strategy I always use shadows, and it actually brought my order DM to 2.4k before (tho DM is still just a meh match-up)

Sometimes one hit can kill (with the poison damage) , but sometimes not, it purely depends on your luck.

But I agree shadows should have shorter cool down and research upgrade time tho, maybe 50 sec instead of 60 sec. I don't know how you come up with the "75ish seconds" tho, especially players who use shadows always research the upgrade and queue the unit at the same time

It makes sense for shadows to get shorter research time, considering dm is broken, and classic is dominated by spears+ archer, making shadow with viable ability faster not just balance DM, but possibly give classic players one more choice other than spear/arch

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just be more accurate, shadows can actually one hit kill marrow/medusa instead of taking two hits
they are definitely not worthless, in my DM strategy I always use shadows, and it actually brought my order DM to 2.4k before (tho DM is still just a meh match-up)

Sometimes one hit can kill (with the poison damage) , but sometimes not, it purely depends on your luck.

But I agree shadows should have shorter cool down and research upgrade time tho, maybe 50 sec instead of 60 sec. I don't know how you come up with the "75ish seconds" tho, especially players who use shadows always research the upgrade and queue the unit at the same time

It makes sense for shadows to get shorter research time, considering dm is broken, and classic is dominated by spears+ archer, making shadow with viable ability faster not just balance DM, but possibly give classic players one more choice other than spear/arch

Shadows are actually pretty viable in OvC.

Can we just get this thread locked? The relevance of the thread is already finished already. -.-

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