SP Mafia VII: Avengers, Disassembled! | GAME OVER: Congratulations to the Skrull!

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Nov 12, 2015 1:48 AM #1415135
Devi you do realize that we have a whole week until the night comes right? It's hasty to make any decision as to whether or not we should or shouldn't lynch anyone.
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Nov 12, 2015 1:51 AM #1415136
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Loki and the Skrull have no blocking or redirecting abilities so why would we need protection from something like this? How does it benefit the town to have one townie nullify another townie's ability?


As I understand, Skrulls and Loki would be able to use their role abilities. Which means that they could have blocking and redirecting abilities. Which means those that have these kinds of abilities, I feel, should be one of the first to be detected so as to rule them out quick.

As I've mentioned above, this is where Invisible Woman chimes in. Since we can never be sure our own redirects and blocks are on our side (not until I or SW can check them out) we can count on IW to protect them from such but still can't count on her being on our side too. I'd like to scan her first and SW can scan me or someone else you see fit.

I agree with Nish though, Strange could save you for one night.

I found out an interesting tidbit while I read through the roles again. Since abilities stack between Loki and his drafted role, I feel as the person we can least trust is Scarlet Witch. Think about it: her ability is Chaotic Field other than our more seen detective ability. Her first ability brings me concern in that she can't be scanned even by me. I can't tell you because she naturally blocks non-nightkill events. Now think of this if she was Loki; she might get Divine Shield and she wouldn't need Illusion. She'd be nigh invulnerable during the nights. She could opt for Touch of Death as well, still being safe under SW natural non-kill cockblock effect. She can easily be any of the three factions and we can never say for sure.


NINJA'd: Oh joy. And here I was thinking I was helpful. Then came Hewitt with the answers. Ahaha. xD
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Nov 12, 2015 1:51 AM #1415137
Nothing happens during the fucking day. You can discuss all you want, but we have fuck all to work on properly lynch someone.

But if you guys wanna go pointing fingers before anything has happened, go for it.

NINJA FUCKED
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Nov 12, 2015 1:56 AM #1415138
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Mr Fantastic can give me a shield one time but beyond that we don't have a doctor role in this game and I'm not sure it's in our best interests to use a one-time protection ability on me in the first round. That's something we could discuss I suppose.

I am 50-50 in support of this as we can use Dr. Strange's time bend to delay your death by a day if you are targeted for the night but that is in assumption Dr. Strange isn't a Skrull or a Loki but we can also use my shield to protect you and if you still die, we know that Loki has "Touch of Death", as what Nish stated.

I also want to ask if whether Dr. Strange's ability will be cancelled if he dies on the night he does his ability.
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I agree with what Nish is saying. I feel like somewhere along the line, Mr. Fantastic should supply Exile with one of his gadgets as well so that he has more insurance in the case that one of our protective people has to protect somebody else (Because Protecting Exile for the whole game is going to lead to many deaths because they'll eventually just kill someone other than him).

And Exile, I think it's better to just keep you alive because we know for absolute certainty that you are on the side of good. It's something of a trust thing, I guess.

I don't mind giving Captain America a gadget so you guys know that I'm all for this.
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Hm, but then who will substitute him in case he goes into the early grave? He is impossible to protect.

Why would you say that?

The only thing that can do that is if Loki chose "Touch of Death" in which we have no idea that's true or not.
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But the Loki-instadeath can go through everything, except the Dr. Strange time thing which delays it.

We can use this to our advantage though to find out which ability Loki has. Well, given he targets Captain America.

Also, time to put in my points:

Guys, I believe I should be protected too. Now, before you crucify me, let me explain. I have currently 4 items with me that can only be used once a day and I can't gift myself, so it would make so much sense that they would kill me first as to prevent me from using my items in the future days. If ever I do use an item per day(Based on the plan), then my usefulness will be exhausted by the 4th day. I have no problem with this but I do recommend I receive some sort of protection for the first few nights so I can fully utilize my abilities to the team(Dr. Strange's time bend to be used on me and I'll use the shield on Captain America).

I would like to focus on protecting my members so here's my solution for this:

(1) I shield Exile. If ever he dies, that means Loki has "Touch of Death" and we can freely use Coulson.
(2) Dr. Strange uses Displace Time on me, as to prevent me from dying for a day.
(3) Quicksilver can use spy on Coulson and Coulson can start visiting people. If ever he dies, Quicksilver will be able to know the person who killed him.
(4) Since Thor can't attack Captain America, we should use his lightning bolt on people who has not posted any plans or what they're planning to do. Since Captain America will be PM'ing the orders, I also suggest those who have received the PM to state "Aye" or at least a word to know that they have received the PM. Anyone else who doesn't do this before night should be hit by Thor.

My proposal isn't fool proof and I'm sure there are a lot of loop holes(And other members not included). What do you guys think?

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But if you guys wanna go pointing fingers before anything has happened, go for it.

No way I'm doing that this early.

I'll wait for more data.
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Nov 12, 2015 1:59 AM #1415139
@Zero Dr.stranges ability delays the death by one day. Meaning if someone was supposed to die on night one and strange uses his ability on them, they'll still die on night two.
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Dr. Strange
Ability: Displace Time
- Every night, Doctor Strange can hide a fellow Avenger in the Negative Zone by PM-ing me #Save . Sending them to the Negative Zone...does not protect them but delays the inevitable because of how time flows there. If a target of Dr Strange is suppose to die that Night, they will only die in the very next Night instead.


I may be reading/interpreting this wrong but i just want to be sure.
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Nov 12, 2015 2:00 AM #1415141
I have a question though. If Mr. Fantastic dies, and Hawkeye takes his place would gadgets stack? I mean if, say, Player One has one Trinket One would he have two now if Hawkeye (now Mr. Fantastic) decides to give another Trinket One to him?
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Nov 12, 2015 2:01 AM #1415142
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Nothing happens during the fucking day. You can discuss all you want, but we have fuck all to work on properly lynch someone.

But if you guys wanna go pointing fingers before anything has happened, go for it.

NINJA FUCKED


Pointing fingers but not killing people is probably the best option for day one, or at least talking as much as possible and seeing how people react, who takes charge, and who hides in the background can't hurt us. This means dragging out the day for as long as possible or for as long as it takes Exile to formulate a plan.

I imagine he's going to be playing this really close to his chest, but without information he'll just be shooting in the dark when in comes to directing abilities, so us shaking as many trees as possible might go a long way to helping him. Your vote is worth two man, don't be so eager to throw it around.
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Nov 12, 2015 2:05 AM #1415143
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@Zero Dr.stranges ability delays the death by one day. Meaning if someone was supposed to die on night one and strange uses his ability on them, they'll still die on night two.
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Dr. Strange
Ability: Displace Time
- Every night, Doctor Strange can hide a fellow Avenger in the Negative Zone by PM-ing me #Save . Sending them to the Negative Zone...does not protect them but delays the inevitable because of how time flows there. If a target of Dr Strange is suppose to die that Night, they will only die in the very next Night instead.

Yes, I know that Lami.

I'm not saying I should be 100% protected, but all I'm saying is that I am useful for the first few days as I can only gift once per day. If ever they decide to kill me straight up on night 1, then my items would be for naught.

Ninja'd. Nevermind.

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Nov 12, 2015 2:06 AM #1415145
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I have a question though. If Mr. Fantastic dies, and Hawkeye takes his place would gadgets stack? I mean if, say, Player One has one Trinket One would he have two now if Hawkeye (now Mr. Fantastic) decides to give another Trinket One to him?


Good question, and the answer is NO.

Whatever Gadgets Mr. Fantastic has left, that's what the Backup Hawkeye has to work with.



***For future reference, if you have questions, could you guys like put the question in purple bolded text so I'll know it's addressed to me? I don't wanna sift through 14 people chattering just to see if someone has a question
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Nov 12, 2015 2:12 AM #1415148
@Zero i think this is something to be discussed with exile through PMs, but who should you gift first and what should you give to them?
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Nov 12, 2015 2:12 AM #1415149
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#NoLynch

For now, we have no information or anything really to go on. Let the night come and we can discuss what happens.

Can we not please, this is possibly one of the worst possible moves we can do right now.

As Jelly said, it's better if we drag this day out for as long as possible and decide what is and isn't possible for us to do in locating the skrullls, even if we do or don't lynch anyone in the end.

To be honest, I'd rather we discussed any personal ideas or plans we have with Exilement. If anyone does come up with a good plan or has good information they want to share or discuss, then it should be done in private rather than open to all the skrulls to see. We have someone we can trust, and guaranteeing a person on our side is a good advantage; we should make use of it.
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Nov 12, 2015 2:18 AM #1415156
Would just like to say that this is hilarious. devi hasn't played SP Mafia since the olde days where NoLynch D1 was a completely viable strategy, even perpetuated by Exilement at times. Alot has happened since then and veteran players have wisened up so I suggest devi pay attention this time around.

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NoLynch - devi

No Vote - The Rest



Once again a gentle reminder that everytime I update, I also set up a bookmark on the frontpage so players can review conversations DVD Chapter style.
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Nov 12, 2015 2:19 AM #1415157
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@Zero i think this is something to be discussed with exile through PMs, but who should you gift first and what should you give to them?

Yeah, I will discuss with Exile the specifics but I'm bringing my concerns to everyone so they will know and I believe it doesn't really give off a lot of important data for the Skrulls and to Loki.

Exile, I believe making a priority list would help us decide on our actions. I know it's harsh but there's just so many players to think about and I think setting our priorities straight should help.
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Nov 12, 2015 4:11 AM #1415209
Ah crap, only now I realize how stupid it was. I'm assuming that I can't redact the nolynch thing (of course if I can then #TakeBackNoLynch), I'm sorry guys that one is on my head.

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Would just like to say that this is hilarious. devi hasn't played SP Mafia since the olde days where NoLynch D1 was a completely viable strategy, even perpetuated by Exilement at times. Alot has happened since then and veteran players have wisened up so I suggest devi pay attention this time around.


It sounded better in my head, guess I should wise up haha.
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Nov 12, 2015 6:17 AM #1415226
I'm reiterating my previous point. For this plan to work, everyone has to comment and respond to the strategy so we can see where their thinking is. The problem with doing nothing is that the Skrull (not Skree) and Loki can get away with skirting along the backdrop.