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SP Mafia VII: Avengers, Disassembled! | GAME OVER: Congratulations to the Skrull!

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Dec 2, 2015 11:43 AM #1419963
Actually she can use her ability each night.
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Dec 2, 2015 11:50 AM #1419965
Oh for real? The way that it's worded implies that it's one time use only. Most everyone else's abilities specify they can use it every night or once/twice a night. I guess my point stays the same though
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Dec 2, 2015 12:56 PM #1419978
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As much as I agree with this, it's just impossible man.

Yeah but the user has to get 3 votes.

Three votes shouldn't be hard to coordinate if we know we're voting for them so we can have a night kill. That said in the wrong hands that gun could really hurt us.

I agree with this.

Actually, YWJ, if you still suspect me because of day 2, please do continue the argument(I have my arguments posted just after Night 2 was posted) if you still find my reasons insufficient.

I wouldn't say I actually suspected you or anything, at least not more than anyone else lol, it was just an opportunity to see if you'd trip yourself up and reveal something or not. I'd do the same thing if someone like Nish suddenly didn't want to lynch an inactive lol.

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I have concern that since Coulson was a Loki, he might have fucked with the info given to Exilement prior since he's such an arsehole. This might require some re-planning.

Seeing as Loki didn't have a team the only way I can see him fucking with Exile is not visiting someone and then telling him they were legit. That seems awfully risky tbh.

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Hey guys :) I don't know what's up with any leftover thoughts on Lamitrov, but it seems the previous votes were careful suspicion due to a guy's inactivity. I have no plans on being inactive this game, but if there's any clearing up I need to do then I'll tackle it all.

As I was spectating, I found it odd that everyone was completely stumped for clues and for who to pressure. Disclaimer warning: I'm exercising careful suspicion too to get information and have no actual suspicion yet. Did anyone else find it odd how quickly Mantha bit into Hewitt when her night action might have been missed? I mean, she has a one-time-use only ability, so not using it on the first night wouldn't be weird at all. But still she thought Hewitt was trying to screw her over on purpose and that she would look suspicious. I'm not too familiar with Mafia outside of Town of Salem, but I know how anxious I'd get over the tiniest things that might give me away when I have to play antagonist. Manthur's reaction is similar to that.

I might actually be being retarded here because others may have noticed that too, and they know it's nothing worth wondering about. But either way I'm just curious :)

I'm not saying it's not sus seeing as the mishap happened to another player too, but I understand the reaction. Earlier in D1 players were talking about how if someone couldn't prove they used their power they should be considered for lynching, and then to not be able to use your ability because of reasons out side of your control? I'd be worried that a few players would latch onto that too.

EDIT: Are we being forced to lynch someone today?
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Dec 2, 2015 1:03 PM #1419981
Oh yes, thanks for reminding me.

Yes. Today I must forcibly implement the must-lynch rule to prevent the game from dragging out. If by the deadline no decision is reached, I will random-lynch someone outta here.
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Dec 2, 2015 1:04 PM #1419982
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Three votes shouldn't be hard to coordinate if we know we're voting for them so we can have a night kill. That said in the wrong hands that gun could really hurt us.

All you really need is Nick Fury and Zero together and you got yourself a combo.
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Seeing as Loki didn't have a team the only way I can see him fucking with Exile is not visiting someone and then telling him they were legit. That seems awfully risky tbh.

Well nothing is stopping him from visiting and lying about it.
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Dec 2, 2015 2:26 PM #1420022
You guys know the routine, PM me your night actions and I'll go from there. Sorry for my inactivity in the last round, I'll try to get something done with the info I have this time around.
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Dec 2, 2015 11:00 PM #1420199
Shouldn't the best course of action right now is to try to determine who killed who and what caused what last night? I'm sort of confused myself. I had the understanding that if Hulk transformed, he could redirect whatever shenanigans hit him and redirect them to another player. Or does the story have nothing to do with it and Bruce Banner never transformed into the Hulk?
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Dec 2, 2015 11:03 PM #1420201
Yeah, I was wondering that too. If Banner transformed then that means Loki must have had touch of death.
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Dec 3, 2015 1:56 AM #1420247
Hey guys, would you all think it a grand idea if I made a private thread for all the dead players? This is something I've been experimenting on and tinkering for awhile now.
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Dec 3, 2015 1:58 AM #1420248
I think its okay to post when the matter concerns dead players?

I think the idea is good. Keeps us in the game somewhat as we debate what we did wrong and stuff.
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Dec 3, 2015 3:34 AM #1420296
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Shouldn't the best course of action right now is to try to determine who killed who and what caused what last night? I'm sort of confused myself. I had the understanding that if Hulk transformed, he could redirect whatever shenanigans hit him and redirect them to another player. Or does the story have nothing to do with it and Bruce Banner never transformed into the Hulk?


Does getting bogged down with speculation on speculation on speculation really help us? I do have a few thoughts on what happened, but those theories have so many holes in them I'm not sure I'd even call them educated guesses.
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Dec 3, 2015 4:10 AM #1420302
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Does getting bogged down with speculation on speculation on speculation really help us? I do have a few thoughts on what happened, but those theories have so many holes in them I'm not sure I'd even call them educated guesses.

They don't hurt though? It's not like we're limited to one task at a time. I'd start discussing it myself, but it's late and I'd rather do it tomorrow.
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Dec 3, 2015 6:49 AM #1420332
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Hey guys, would you all think it a grand idea if I made a private thread for all the dead players? This is something I've been experimenting on and tinkering for awhile now.

Yes. I'd love to hear analysis on we could improve our skills at the game. And how the game's progressing.
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Dec 3, 2015 7:02 AM #1420336
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They don't hurt though? It's not like we're limited to one task at a time. I'd start discussing it myself, but it's late and I'd rather do it tomorrow.


Yeah that's a good point, I'll start, but keep in mind that this will be closer me rambling and vomiting my thought process onto a page than a coherent theory.

So we had no deaths N1 but three deaths N2, this seems to be the work of Dr Strange but without Apex or Exile confirming that one of the dead was visited N1 then we won't know for sure. The other possibility is that the lack of deaths during N1 was due to me blocking/saving someone, the kill being blocked by a shield/armour, or someone deciding not to do a killing action (there is also the chance that Nish was the target, but that's pretty much throwing the kill away, so I doubt it happened), this means Xate and Squidd were killed by the Skrull and Loki, and Loki was killed by partying with a Skrull.

I'll look into the first scenario first (Dr Strange saved someone N1), this one is possibly but none of the targets really make sense in my opinion, Hawkeye is pretty much a back up investigator and it makes sense to keep the power around but not to delay the death. What I mean is that if Scarlet Witch was killed N1, Hawkeye would take their place but still die N2 giving us no information (the same with replacing Quicksilver), they could have been intended to replace Coulson, but again they would die N2 even if they didn't party with an anti-town player, framing an innocent player. In fact the only way delaying Hawkeye's death makes sense if they thought Mr Fantastic was going to die and they wanted more of the items, but even that makes no sense because why wouldn't you just delay Mr Fantastic's death?

Delaying Hulks death also doesn't make much sense seeing as he already had a sweet chance of dodging death. There is a small chance that Coulson was saved by Dr Strange, but I doubt Exile would send Apex to do that seeing as it could give a false negative on someone N1 and a false positive on someone N2, Apex could be Skrull and this a risky way of messing up the town, but it seems like a long shot seeing as he wouldn't have known who Coulson was targeting.

So yeah, none of the targets make a lot of sense to be targeted by Dr Strange, but if one of them were then there was only two night kills on N2, this means that Loki killed the person that wasn't saved N1 and the Skrull killed Loki most likely trying to frame someone for Coulsons death.


Onto scenario 2.
This means there were no deaths OR delays N1, this would have to be due to being blocked by me, hitting a shield/armour, or deciding not to do a killing action. The first two wouldn't stop Loki if he had Touch of Death, and seeing as Hulk died then there is a good chance that Loki has Touch of Death but decided not to kill anyone N1 (or the Skrull targeted Hulk and just got lucky, but that seems like a silly action). This gives him an advantage because if he was followed by QS it wouldn't show that he visited more than one target it could have also been a bluff so it would seem like they didn't have Touch of Death. I could also propose that Coulson visited Xate N1, found out he was a friendly and then killed him N2 to stop Exiles band of trusty innocents from growing (but this is more of a guess as to why Loki targeted Xate over someone like Nish or Exile, which if he did have Touch of Death he would have been able to kill).

But that leaves the Skrull to target Squidd, which doesn't make all that much sense, if they wanted him dead why wouldn't they have jumped on the bandwagon when I pressured him, and why kill someone you could probably kill later on for being inactive? It makes more sense to wipe out the current power roles than to knock out the back up power roles... Maybe someone leading the Skrull has something against inactives lol.

But in this scenario it leaves Loki's death up to the fact that he partied with a Skrull player and died. It's really the only way the number of deaths matches the number of ways people can die (without Dr Strange being involved).


TL;DR The Skrull were either successfully investigated last night or tried to frame someone by killing Coulson. The only way we know is if Exile tells us Dr Strange visited one of the dead N1.
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Dec 4, 2015 12:49 AM #1420637
Yeah that's pretty much spot-on to what I was thinking. I'm just curious as to what Exile ordered everyone to do.
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