I see.

Also, I wasn't being serious <3

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so you also forgot your email's password too?

yes

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Man, he edited that page after I pointed it out
His page before was the exact copy of this one
http://forums.stickpage.com/showthread.php?91477-Mr-Michael-%28Michael%29
The only part here where he writes about dead parents is in the bottom half of Trivia, which is written in such a way that you need a military decoding machine to read it
Also, if you noticed, the edit date of his thread is 2 days after my post, which is the same day he actually answered back for that post

you win..its a joke :P

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Since the topic has changed, I think I'll rant awhile:

Deceased parents is a really easy way to get a character emotionally motivated to fight (or just angst on top of buildings), it might motivate a hero (or villain) to do what their parents did to continue their legacy, or track down who killed them. Almost every fictional character will have a friend or relative who tragically dies, because it can be suddenly pulled out of nowhere to get easy sympathy from the character. But obviously, it's overused, and 90% of our favorite fictional characters have this, simply because it can easily make even the most boringly unstoppable, characterless badass seem relatable, even if only a tiny bit. It's massive overuse is derived from not many other easily conjured up backstory tropes can top the death of loved ones, and every producer aiming to create the next Superman or Batman just follows the same formula to mold the character, and eventually is basically became the standard.

I think it is actually because the absence of parents is seen as a chance of freedom more than a motivation of continuity/revenge
Parents limit the characters' actions, especially for RHGs, about which 90% of them are made by 14 years old kids that still suffer from an abuse of self-insertion in a work
My opinion is that whenever in a story someone must find himself in a new situation, the author thinks that, by simply making the character's parents disappear through death, one can find himself free of a series of loose ends that may ruin the story he thought about
An example: let's say we have the usual 14 years old ninja master; let's say that we want to make an interesting story with such a character (I know, it's impossible, but whatever); because of his age, the first thing we have to deal is about his parents; for our standards, it is obvious that the parents will intervene in many situations to guide the son through maturity; however, we cannot use that, since otherwise the common audience for our work (other 14 years old) will not like it, it doesn't really help them fantasize about the story; most importantly, it doesn't let them fantasize by replacing themselves with the main character, since there are too many common factors that do not help to actually detach themselves from one situation to another; because of this, we make their parents die so that we create a situation of freedom (no control, no responsabilities) with other important factors counted in it as well: the lack of guilt (no unilateral desertions), the favoured position held by victims (them being killed) that brings, as charry said, easy sympathy and lastly a perfect rage mode to overcome whatever bullshit may be encountered in the future

We pair this with the fact that kids tend to abuse self-insertion and here we have it: the situation were 90% of the RHGs made are just 14 years olds jerking off their other perfect self

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you win..its a joke :P

That was a pretty bad joke.

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Since the topic has changed, I think I'll rant awhile:

Deceased parents is a really easy way to get a character emotionally motivated to fight (or just angst on top of buildings), it might motivate a hero (or villain) to do what their parents did to continue their legacy, or track down who killed them. Almost every fictional character will have a friend or relative who tragically dies, because it can be suddenly pulled out of nowhere to get easy sympathy from the character. But obviously, it's overused, and 90% of our favorite fictional characters have this, simply because it can easily make even the most boringly unstoppable, characterless badass seem relatable, even if only a tiny bit. It's massive overuse is derived from not many other easily conjured up backstory tropes can top the death of loved ones, and every producer aiming to create the next Superman or Batman just follows the same formula to mold the character, and eventually is basically became the standard.

Using death to kick off conflict is a cheap, cliche trope that novice writers use to create generic tension. Death should never be a character's motivation. What kind of flat character is one that is just inspired by his parents death? What ambiguity is left if all the conflict is just, DEATH IS BAD!!!!? That's why books like the Hunger Games fall so short. There is no depth to the character. There is no significance to any of their actions because it's all just primal shit that doesn't matter.

But Externus, how can a character be super edgy and awesome if he had a perfectly normal life and had his mam to tell him going out and killing ninjas at age 15 isn't normal? It simply HAS to be all dark and gloomy otherwise they aren't cool.

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Death should never be a character's motivation.

True. If they feel sad or mad, they should go see a therapist.

They could always have ninja parents, who are making him join RHG to further devolap ninja powers and kill ppl for them because they are too lazy to kill said people themselves.

Or they could just have nice parents who support the whole death match thing soccer mom style. Because wherever the whole RHG thing is its pretty much seen as normal.

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They could always have ninja parents, who are making him join RHG to further devolap ninja powers and kill ppl for them because they are too lazy to kill said people themselves.

So far, the best backstory I've read is Umbrella's backstory.

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Using death to kick off conflict is a cheap, cliche trope that novice writers use to create generic tension. Death should never be a character's motivation. What kind of flat character is one that is just inspired by his parents death? What ambiguity is left if all the conflict is just, DEATH IS BAD!!!!? That's why books like the Hunger Games fall so short. There is no depth to the character. There is no significance to any of their actions because it's all just primal shit that doesn't matter.

Why don't you get your head out of the gutter that is the Young Adult Fiction section and broaden your horizons

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Why don't you get your head out of the gutter that is the Young Adult Fiction section and broaden your horizons

LOL I stopped reading this shit in like 5th grade. I just find it irritating that this kind of garbage sells so well in the mainstream audience.

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LOL I stopped reading this shit in like 5th grade. I just find it irritating that this kind of garbage sells so well in the mainstream audience.

So what have you been reading?

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LOL I stopped reading this shit in like 5th grade. I just find it irritating that this kind of garbage sells so well in the mainstream audience.

No offence for others, but mainstream audience is utterly idiotic
What you expect from a generation that switched from Harry Potter to The Hunger Games and Twilight?
The same Twilight whose fanfiction later spawned 50 Shades of Grey?