SP Mafia VIIb: Avengers, Disassembled! | Endgame and Rant

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Jan 24, 2016 7:29 AM #1432808
All I've been doing was stay alive for as long as I can to help the town. I'd like to know what triggered the suspicion though.
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Jan 24, 2016 11:38 PM #1432910
Is not that it was triggered, I have always had the thought is just that now that we got the "important things out of the way" I kind of realised you really haven't "done" anything to help us you happened to receive the armor and be like "well k, I'll give it to someone now bai". I don't have a reason to think you're NOT ultron. That's my issue.
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Jan 25, 2016 12:51 AM #1432919
I see. Fair enough.

Although how you see it seems to boil it down completely to uselessness, stripping off details that make it worth something. Sure, I took the armor but it was under the pretense that I had to get it because I was going to scry someone, you agreed to that. I gave it to Smile the next day because by then it was useless for me, I had done my job and gave it to our investigator.
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Jan 25, 2016 1:21 AM #1432930
Update:
Apex - Ai and Errorblender
Errorblender - Apex


Day 5 ends in 6 Hours
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Jan 25, 2016 7:47 AM #1433018
A verdict has not been reached.


Night 5


- Please put the action IN YOU PM TITLES to avoid confusion on my part. If you wish to ask something to me too, put a "Read Inside" on the title.

- Deadline for Night 5 is Jan 28, 2016

- If you do not wish to use your ability, you must still PM me "No Action" so that I'll know.


Good Luck!
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Jan 25, 2016 1:25 PM #1433052
Nobody died.


Day SIX


There are 4 of you. It takes 3 to lynch.


Mechanics:
- Day lasts until Jan 30, 2016 or 12 hours after the very last post of anything after the hammering vote (the deciding vote of a lynchee)

- You may lynch someone by posting #vote IN BOLD. If you don't bold I won't count it.

- If the final required vote is made, the countdown will start and the Day could end prematurely. Watch out!

- You may retract your answer by posting #unvote in BOLD. If you don't bold I won't count it.

- Because Town and SK are at a Stalemate, I am now initiating RandomLynch. If there is no decision made today, I will randomly lynch one of you 4. Which means, there's a 25% chance I nail the SK and a 75% chance I nail town but either way it ends here.

- I will update the thread from time to time and post links from the frontpage for archiving purposes.



Good Luck!
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Jan 25, 2016 1:27 PM #1433053
Lol, I thought for sure I was brown bread.
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Jan 25, 2016 1:56 PM #1433060
are you kidding me
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Jan 26, 2016 5:48 AM #1433252
I swear to god I'm gonna end the day in 24 hours if nothing happens
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Jan 26, 2016 7:02 AM #1433259
#vote Error
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Jan 26, 2016 7:20 AM #1433263
#vote Apex
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Jan 27, 2016 1:40 AM #1433417
Fuck you guys. Well, more of Cami actually. She stalled Town on purpose then became inactive on the Final Day. Additionally, because of town's lingering indecision, I've decided to LightningBolt Cami right here and now. No, this does not give town another chance. But rather, I am cutting it short because it's obvious that the Ultron would rather not kill anyone lest he incriminate himself and the Town still doesn't know shit nor have they cared even moreso now.

Town wasn't even unanimously close. I am calling this Ultron's win....congratulations ErrorBlender.


Night Actions:

Night 1
Raptor bolts Mantha - Mantha is disabled. Smile does not die if Mantha does.
Xate Mafia kills Mantha - Mantha Dies. Does NOT take Smile with her.
Camila gives her armor to ErrorBlender - Error is PM'd that he has the Armor
Mantha contracts with Smile - Is bolted by Raptor so does not take Smile with her
Smile spies on Exilement - Nothing Happens
Errorblender scries Smile - Smile is an Avenger
Serial Killer Error kills Raptor - Raptor Dies
Exilement (JARVIS) - Informed that SK killed Raptor and Maf killed Mantha
Boomerang assumes Mantha or Raptor - Assumes Raptor: is now Thor

Night 2
Smile archives Arch Angel N1 - Nothing Happens
Boomerang bolts Exile - Exile is "Bolted". Nothing happens.
Error gives the armor to Smile - Smile gets the Armor
Error "kills" Smile - Smile does not die; Arch instead of Cami is notified that the armor is used
Arch swaps with Cami - Cami becomes the Swapper. Arch becomes the Armor owner.
Xate kills Boomer - Boomer Dies

Town lynches Arch - Arch Dies

Night 3
Error kills Exilement - Exilement dies
Smile archives Xate last night - Finds out he visited boomer
Xate kills YWJ - YWJ dies

Xate is lynched - Xate dies

Night 4
Cami swaps with Apex - Cami is now Quicksilver and Apex is the Swapper
Smile archives Ai the previous night - finds nothing
Error kills Smile - Smile dies

You know the rest...

Spectator Thread: http://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/22ynPDxp8PmG
Mafia Thread: http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/GXL5XYNyTs2hU



Here's my post-rant bitches:

- For the 7+ games that I've run (excluding casual unbalanced setups), I have always given the same advice: RandomLynch Works. And for 9 games, everyone including the vets have ignored it, preferring a conservative "information-laden" setup. How's that gone for you? Scroll up my OP and review all my old games, when has the Town ever won through logical deduction alone? Setups are supposed to be 50/50 fair, but in every game the Bad Guys always win and while it is always fun to watch it just shows how much Town is always disadvantaging themselves. With the exception of some gems like Jelly and Smile who understand the point of RandomLynching over NoLynching on Day 1, I doubt running a umpteenth game would change things. Ergo, I'm quitting running SP Mafia games of this scale. The only way I'm ever going back is if it were a private invite only game with people I know and like using a setup that is quite ordinary. That's unlikely.

- The Self-Watcher (Quicksilver) is one of the best roles in the game. Give him the armor, or have Xate forcefully protect him (and if he doesn't save Apex it is suspicious), and he instantly becomes the "Cop" of the setup. In fact all it needs to truly confirm is to have Scarlet confirm him. But Fuck everyone for not even considering him, throwing away QS as the most useless role. And fuck Apex for not giving a shit (or taking the initiative) until the endgame. Maybe it was because of how Apex was treated in the last game and how he unexpectedly became the last in the draft for this game that his confidence was shot and he decided to say this role was useless. I don't know. But damn, missed opportunity right there.

- Apex and Camila hurt this game the most, most glaringly by the end. Not just by the inactivity but by ideology or the inability to step up. Ai stepped up pretty damn well and while it did get him in hot water, he was simply outwitted by Error who had intentionally made himself look dumb to throw off suspicion. That's called playing the game, guys. I can forgive Apex as he is new, and he did try in the endgame even if it was too late, but Cami is inexcusable. She's inactive on the last days, she constantly repeats her mantra of "no information, no lynch", and excuses herself as above the vets because she supposedly doesn't know better. Like, if you're not going to post alot or at all until the end why bother. Mafia isn't a game of chance. You don't ride the coattails to victory for this shit.

- Exile might've overcome odds last game but Error is just brilliant. He was like a snake who could camouflage in any situation; he stuck a hard needle in his best friends to gain their trust, then twisted them around without thinking. Smile, who was his closest confidante in this game thought I was pulling his fucking leg when I told him privately it was Error. The move to trick Cami into giving him the armor D1 was brilliant, but the move to give it to Smile THEN "kill" him to subtly remove the armor's effects was even better! Had Arch not swapped with Cami at that moment, she would've known that the Armor was broken. But because Town lynched Arch to hell, he thought to do everyone a favor by not telling anyone about the fucking Armor. But even without Mafia's dickery, Error was shown to be truly devious even in the final stages of the game. To go that long must've been pretty nerve wracking but he got through all that shit.

- If anyone hasn't noticed, Arch has been pretty worked up since he died, interrupting the game and whatnot. This is because he's entirely convinced he was carrying the game until his teammate fucked him in the ass. I'm sorry. It's not and never was the case. I'm not the only one saying this but Arch, while your team did fuck it up, you really didn't have it 'in the bag'. Error figured out who the Maf were as early as Day 2-3 (logically I might add. Through simple observation of every action made until that point), and anything you would've done even if Xate didn't kill the wrong guy would have gotten you lynched anyway. So quit whining and admit your loss.
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Jan 27, 2016 1:52 AM #1433421
Well played everyone and good job Error, you're just spectacular, but God damn was it frustrating watching the game midway when most of the experienced players got killed off.
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Jan 27, 2016 3:41 AM #1433460
Fuck you error for lying to me even after I died :(
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Jan 27, 2016 3:42 AM #1433461
I derped.

That aside, good game, Error. You truly shined this round.