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SP Mafia VIIb: Avengers, Disassembled! | Endgame and Rant

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Dec 22, 2015 8:04 AM #1424786
Yeah but that just means I remain a big blob of null, not that I'm suspicious lol.
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Dec 22, 2015 8:23 AM #1424790
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sorry i just had time to catch up. Darn you guys post a lot.

I just agreed with Error because it's truly the best thing we can do. Yeah he said it out loud.... but even like that is kind of a good plan and taking in consideration the other options it kind of convinced me. As for the lynch I don't want to jump on anyone just yet, like mantha mentioned it can backfire badly.


Well you do realize you will be a target if you say you're giving away the armor, right? Why would you do that? It either doesn't matter to you if you die or you're the enemy, since those wouldn't die.

@Jelly: Exile's vote wasn't random.
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Dec 22, 2015 8:37 AM #1424791
But Exiles reasoning could have been used for a fair few players at that stage, it's not dice roll random, but still a fairly random vote. Or I might be reading his intentions wrong.
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Dec 22, 2015 9:03 AM #1424792
We should simply keep our motives for the night to ourselves as was mentioned before. If we continue with the plan, I'd have asked one of the two protection roles. Saying it aloud was a mistake on my part.

We have a long D1 ahead anyway with Hewitt going on for vacation. Chances are we'll be discussing a whole lot before N1 rolls in. What I don't understand is why Xate is hounding YWJ so hard because of his immunity. We had the same role basically the last game who was Scarlet Witch with Chaos Field and her Scry.
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Dec 22, 2015 10:41 AM #1424805
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But Exiles reasoning could have been used for a fair few players at that stage, it's not dice roll random, but still a fairly random vote. Or I might be reading his intentions wrong.


I think that a percentage of that was him prodding at Apex and gauging our reactions at the same time.
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Dec 22, 2015 11:08 AM #1424806
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#unvote Smile
#vote Ai


While I get not being keen on a D1 lynch seems to be all the rage here I find the level at which Ai opposed it seemed to be odd, or at the very least why was it only an issue after Exiles vote and not after mine or Smiles? I cast a random vote any nobody bats an eye, but when Exile casts an almost equally random vote for Apex suddenly the odds are to bad, yada yada yada.
I also don't get the whole making Apex the town head, this just felt like a ploy to make Apex sound more useful.

@Xate: Unverifiable =/= suspicious you silly billy.


It was pretty obvious you were scum hunting, and your lynch was to get a reaction out of Smile, not me. Exile's vote was more on the serious side and wanting to actually lynch him, hence I voiced my opposition.

It was exactly that really, not just to make him "sound" useful. As it stands, his ability isn't really useful unless we build around him, as I said.
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Dec 22, 2015 1:49 PM #1424820
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Well you do realize you will be a target if you say you're giving away the armor, right? Why would you do that? It either doesn't matter to you if you die or you're the enemy, since those wouldn't die.

@Jelly: Exile's vote wasn't random.


Isn't it kinda obvious that I'm gonna give my armor away tho?. I feel like the fact that I have this sort of ability would make me a target anyways, if I just use it protect myself is not really gonna help anyone into find out who are the baddiezz, and not using my ability doesn't seem like a good option to me.
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Dec 22, 2015 2:26 PM #1424824
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Isn't it kinda obvious that I'm gonna give my armor away tho?. I feel like the fact that I have this sort of ability would make me a target anyways, if I just use it protect myself is not really gonna help anyone into find out who are the baddiezz, and not using my ability doesn't seem like a good option to me.


No, having that sort of ability wouldn't make you a target. If anything, it will make the bad guys not kill you because it's too risky. Relying on abilities to find out the bad guys isn't the only way to help - you can keep yourself alive and contribute to the discussion.

Seriously, you need to consider actually thinking critically about your ability and be more creative in how you use it. Protecting someone else isn't the only thing you can do with it.
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Dec 22, 2015 2:47 PM #1424826
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Well you do realize you will be a target if you say you're giving away the armor, right? Why would you do that? It either doesn't matter to you if you die or you're the enemy, since those wouldn't die.

@Jelly: Exile's vote wasn't random.


I don't see how cami giving someone the armor makes her a target. She would become just like the rest of us except for whoever has the armor and Ultron. I don't understand why she seems so valuable to you.
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Dec 22, 2015 3:26 PM #1424830
SIGH I don't know how are you guys misunderstanding my posts so badly.

Yes yes Camila can use it or not but if she's going to be like YO IM GIVING MY ARMOR TO THIS GUY, the mafia will of course not go after that person and will use THIS opportunity to dispose of Camila instead.

Saying what you will do with the armor out loud isn't something someone innocent would do so I'm trying to understand whether it's something more behind this mistake.
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Dec 22, 2015 3:29 PM #1424831
Update:

Ai - YWJ


This is my last official update before I go off the grid. That is, it's the worst case scenario in case wherever I'm going has no Wifi. I'll be fully back on the 30th, which is 2 days from the deadline of Day 1 anyway. I'll be asking Devour to lock this thread when Day 1 ends whether or not a lynch decision has reached.

Happy Holidays everyone
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Dec 22, 2015 4:45 PM #1424837
Or she can use it to bluff the baddies. Mind games. Also the aim to give away her armor to keep the one she gave the armor to safe, right? Even if she herself was killed, if the aim was to save that particular person then the goal is achieved. There's still occasions where we need to make it clear on who to guarantee their safety at night, kinda like this current night.

Well, but I do see where you're coming from Mantha. Why are you so worried? An Avenger's death at night is regrettable, but unavoidable. In such a case, if the Camila who's lost her ability to do anything left at night, aka a vanilla town, died, would be better than for example Error died, while his abilities are not used yet/used but unable to tell us the result due to being dead.
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Dec 22, 2015 4:56 PM #1424839
I'm not worried, I'm just investigating. If I've learned anything from the previous game is to look closer at people's behaviors and to trust my instincts more.
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Dec 22, 2015 6:31 PM #1424850
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We should simply keep our motives for the night to ourselves as was mentioned before. If we continue with the plan, I'd have asked one of the two protection roles. Saying it aloud was a mistake on my part.

We have a long D1 ahead anyway with Hewitt going on for vacation. Chances are we'll be discussing a whole lot before N1 rolls in. What I don't understand is why Xate is hounding YWJ so hard because of his immunity. We had the same role basically the last game who was Scarlet Witch with Chaos Field and her Scry.

Oh, last game, Scarlet Witch has scry, which we can use as proof of her allegiance whether or not she lied. As for Captain, well, he's basically invulnerable except for kill actions and lynch, and no ways to contribute power-wise. Jelly is smart, though, so he can discuss. Which would make it dangerous if he were a bad guy. It's my hunch.

But now, I have doubts. Right now, Jelly is pretty pro-town, so my doubts are groundless. I'll just wait this one out and focus on others
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Dec 23, 2015 5:59 PM #1424991
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SIGH I don't know how are you guys misunderstanding my posts so badly.

Yes yes Camila can use it or not but if she's going to be like YO IM GIVING MY ARMOR TO THIS GUY, the mafia will of course not go after that person and will use THIS opportunity to dispose of Camila instead.

Saying what you will do with the armor out loud isn't something someone innocent would do so I'm trying to understand whether it's something more behind this mistake.

Don't know if I totally agree. When I made my post about bluffing, the one power I thought this would apply the best to would be Iron Man's power. The sole fact that you can pass it to literally anyone and it's impossible to figure out precisely who has it (especially since the person who wears it won't know) makes it the perfect power to bluff with and can stall doombots/Ultron for an extra day, which is extremely important. What she says can absolutely dictate the pace of this game given that she chooses her words correctly.

This can obviously also work against us if Camila is a doombot, so it's something to keep in mind.
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