Sure. I was going to do the last one, but starting 4 rounds in is pointless.

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BSE V6? Heck yeah!

First things first though. How did stone clarify or act in this? We haven't seen him on this site in a while and he (or Jeff) mentioned that there would be GTL 3 competition sometime this year, but we haven't heard the competition progressing after months has passed. If he really confirms it (and you folks for hosting it), I'd hopefully love to participate, and surely love to help hosts to organize scores again. :D

GTL3 is coming soon. Stone said they're gonna release it with the new site, but they wanna take time and make sure it's done right. Stone's been a super busy big boy though.

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This.

Also, if there were prizes for completion that would certainly get a lot more participation, but I don't see an issue in running it without prizes. I'd probably contribute for a round or two.
edit: Also, what I think killed the last one was the length of each round. To my knowledge this isn't supposed to be for more full length type animations but rather linear combo's. Sure some of the entries we received during the last round were out-fucking-standing, they weren't a representation of what BSE is meant to be. I hope that is taken into consideration as well.

Isn't what killed the last one also the controversy surrounding the Host(s)? And the Simon Cowell judge that gave everyone less than half a score on average?

Here is why Oxob as a host works: Oxob is a celebrity. A recent one. He has not 1 not 2 but more than 5 RHG anims up with the recent one not long ago and has always promoted a strong work ethic when it comes to animating. He has dazzled us more than a few times in previous BSE's. It would be like inviting Shawn Michaels to host Wrestlemania.

Oxob is also nice. Approchable. Open to criticism and has touched base with the community when hosting. He also does not appear to have been starstruck by the trappings of the BSE as a high-powered SP Event.

I'm not implying the Cami/Tsang era was crap but after Oxob brought all of the above to the table, it was really such a tough act to follow. The new BSE tried to change things up and now we know that doesn't really work.

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Isn't what killed the last one also the controversy surrounding the Host(s)? And the Simon Cowell judge that gave everyone less than half a score on average?

Probably for half of those who partecipated
I think the other half didn't do the rounds anymore because BSE was basically asking you to release a short full movie for each round
And this to people that have yet to finish at least a single planned project (I still kinda hold this record btw)

To be honest, I think that a good way to plan this BSE would be, as said before, linear combos. The reason is because I don't believe that a money prize will bring people to finish the BSE (otherwise we'd have GTLs and FTLs with more than fifty animations for each (I sinned in this too))

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Damned Hewitt's ninja edits :T

I had no idea about the full length stuff. That's...not really what the BSE is about so I guess you're right.

Oxob always stuck to a formula. He knew that's what worked because every BSE preceding it (all the way from FA and pre-purge SP) was exactly like this. So the formula works. If Oxob isn't hosting, I would agree with Dipi that the formulaic methods of the old BSE should be followed

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Isn't what killed the last one also the controversy surrounding the Host(s)? And the Simon Cowell judge that gave everyone less than half a score on average?

Here is why Oxob as a host works: Oxob is a celebrity. A recent one. He has not 1 not 2 but more than 5 RHG anims up with the recent one not long ago and has always promoted a strong work ethic when it comes to animating. He has dazzled us more than a few times in previous BSE's. It would be like inviting Shawn Michaels to host Wrestlemania.

Oxob is also nice. Approchable. Open to criticism and has touched base with the community when hosting. He also does not appear to have been starstruck by the trappings of the BSE as a high-powered SP Event.

I'm not implying the Cami/Tsang era was crap but after Oxob brought all of the above to the table, it was really such a tough act to follow. The new BSE tried to change things up and now we know that doesn't really work.

Yeah, no I'm all for that judge. Realistically, a good majority of the animations presented were not worthy of 8/10's or whatever they would've received. If you're speaking objectively where 5 is completely average and neutral, most animations would probably be a 6 or 7 at best. The top few animators could present an 8-9 at best. Knowing this, he should've given most things a 2/10 just to balance out the fact that everything was severely overrated and out of whack.

Also, BSE v5 was fine. Low participation doesn't mean it was run poorly or it was bad. People just don't have the same interest. People didn't do FTC, Haunted Mansion, GTL2, etc. It's just how it is. I mean, I was one of the people jumping on the bandwagon and definitely think a lot of things could have been done to improve it, but it wasn't really bad.

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Yeah, no I'm all for that judge. Realistically, a good majority of the animations presented were not worthy of 8/10's or whatever they would've received. If you're speaking objectively where 5 is completely average and neutral, most animations would probably be a 6 or 7 at best. The top few animators could present an 8-9 at best. Knowing this, he should've given most things a 2/10 just to balance out the fact that everything was severely overrated and out of whack.

Also, BSE v5 was fine. Low participation doesn't mean it was run poorly or it was bad. People just don't have the same interest. People didn't do FTC, Haunted Mansion, GTL2, etc. It's just how it is. I mean, I was one of the people jumping on the bandwagon and definitely think a lot of things could have been done to improve it, but it wasn't really bad.

Oh I'm not saying that the harsh judge was the reason, but that the harsh judge raised the barrier to entry for newcomers to participate all the way through. I think that guy was really thorough and constructive about his methods. I just thought that the BSE was originally made to get people of every group to animate for fun.

As you mentioned, the FTC, Haunted M, GTL etc were more geared towards people who could make full stuff. So in the eyes of the potential member, the BSE was like a junior arena; a saving grace or a start-up for a budding young animator. And the vets also had their fill flexing their muscles for what is practically an eighth of what they were used to. So when you close that gate that lets anyone in, it sorta cuts the quality of what the BSE is trying to achieve. That is, if everyone felt that the BSE was constricting---I cannot say. I mean you're saying it was fine, I'm saying it was okay. Is everyone and stone agreeing on this perspective?

Maybe having little participation is alright for the BSE again this year. But that will depend on what stone and Oxob want for the Bigger Picture. If you haven't noticed, there's a drought of members around here. Would it be wise to sacrifice quality for quantity again?

OR maybe. It's just how the BSE is marketed. It can appeal to quality, to invite that same badass judge again, but the attraction should be honest. The competition should lay out this fact right away. I think when it first happened it kinda appeared as quite a shock and maybe that's what turned any potential lurkers off.

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As you mentioned, the FTC, Haunted M, GTL etc were more geared towards people who could make full stuff. So in the eyes of the potential member, the BSE was like a junior arena; a saving grace or a start-up for a budding young animator. And the vets also had their fill flexing their muscles for what is practically an eighth of what they were used to. So when you close that gate that lets anyone in, it sorta cuts the quality of what the BSE is trying to achieve. That is, if everyone felt that the BSE was constricting---I cannot say. I mean you're saying it was fine, I'm saying it was okay. Is everyone and stone agreeing on this perspective?

Yeah I really want the BSE to be a competition for newcommers to learn and improve as it was for me when I first participated. And thats what I want for this BSE. We plan on making the combos easier to start of with, and also having the rounds hosted for a shorter period of time, wich I think would prevent fullength animations and have you go for quality over quantity. And maybe also changing the special element to something broader and not something as specific as forcing you to animate the combo in a windtunnel. I was thinking of having "Themes" for some, if not all rounds where you are giving a sertain theme to follow, such as gore, fantasy or sci-fi for example. What do you guys think of that?

Well, depending on how this turns out, I might be up for another BSE. Too bad my life has kept
me busy after Round 3 of BSE5, I would have wanted to contribute more.

I am more the type for cinematic stuff, but I wanted to practice 2D fighting and combos.
A simplistic BSE6 with a certain theme to it might help me improve on that even more.
But yeah, only time will tell.

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I was thinking of having "Themes" for some, if not all rounds where you are giving a sertain theme to follow, such as gore, fantasy or sci-fi for example. What do you guys think of that?

Go for it. I'm tired of seeing people animate the same environment with the same colors and the same style. Different themes could really switch that up. There's a lot of skill involved in being able to display different kinds of emotions.

Yo I especially came here to join BSE6, I have always just watched from the side. If this is gonna happen I'm up for the task!

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Yeah I really want the BSE to be a competition for newcommers to learn and improve as it was for me when I first participated. And thats what I want for this BSE. We plan on making the combos easier to start of with, and also having the rounds hosted for a shorter period of time, wich I think would prevent fullength animations and have you go for quality over quantity. And maybe also changing the special element to something broader and not something as specific as forcing you to animate the combo in a windtunnel. I was thinking of having "Themes" for some, if not all rounds where you are giving a sertain theme to follow, such as gore, fantasy or sci-fi for example. What do you guys think of that?

See, this is why Oxob hosting works: He's a product of the event that helped shaped his work ethic and he wants to give back for little to nothing in return but his time well spent. I've never seen any other animator save for stone who really went beyond to host something successful and kept at it. Usually they just move on or flock to here when something special comes up.

Anyways, about the suggestions for theme. How bout granting everyone the ability to suggest themes. Toss them in the proverbial hat, then pick ten of the most popular ones. Of course it'll be filtered against suspiciously specific circumstances, but it'd be a great way to engage the people of this forum again.

DUDE YES if you host another BSE, you can already sign me up hell yeah. I don't even think i was animating yet back when bse5 happened. And I've been slacking recently so something like this is perfect for getting me back into shape. I'm definitely looking forward to joining this if you do end up doing it.

Id join. Just throw it up, word will spread around dojo pretty quick Im sure. This place only gets hype when a competition is up