Here ya go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKHrgs77yNc

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That would really only happen if there is alot of people unable to finishing in time becaus of a sertain event such as graduation or another stickpage event. Sadly alot of past BSE rounds have gotten extensions becaus of people procrastinating and then realizing they wont be able to finish in time. Thus making the competition last for way longer than planned. Thats what I want to prevent by being very strikt on the deadline.

Makes sense. But I just want to point out, that some of the more advanced animators or people who are putting more work than others (for lack of a better phrase) will generally take longer. The minutia involved in "upper level" animation is just generally time consuming, which is why I asked over 2 weeks in advance that time is running thin, and isn't just due to procrastination.

I remember there was the same issue last BSE where Yun just didn't have enough time to execute the animation quality that he wanted. I dunno. I'll work as fast as I can, so long as I don't sacrifice quality. If I don't make it, oh well.

Day 8 still havent found the right song

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Day 8 still havent found the right song

Day 9 the soup cans are running in short supply. I'm gonna need to journey to the surface world soon

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Makes sense. But I just want to point out, that some of the more advanced animators or people who are putting more work than others (for lack of a better phrase) will generally take longer. The minutia involved in "upper level" animation is just generally time consuming, which is why I asked over 2 weeks in advance that time is running thin, and isn't just due to procrastination.

I remember there was the same issue last BSE where Yun just didn't have enough time to execute the animation quality that he wanted. I dunno. I'll work as fast as I can, so long as I don't sacrifice quality. If I don't make it, oh well.

That is also one thing that I want to prevent. The BSE was never ment for making full length cinematic animations, unless you're insanely fast at animating. It's ment for squeezing in as much quality as possible at the time you are given and going for perfection rather than quantity. Aim too high and you might lose everything. Everyone is given the same sequence and the same amount of time to finish so it's really just about who can make the best product out of the circunstances that you are given. Also if I do extend, that would be unfair to the people who have been aiming for the original deadline since they could have planned on making something bigger in the first place.

Here's mine http://acbeaam.deviantart.com/art/Bse-R2-604073260

its bad

yay bsev6 round 2 :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nis0G_oX8Us

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That is also one thing that I want to prevent. The BSE was never ment for making full length cinematic animations, unless you're insanely fast at animating. It's ment for squeezing in as much quality as possible at the time you are given and going for perfection rather than quantity. Aim too high and you might lose everything. Everyone is given the same sequence and the same amount of time to finish so it's really just about who can make the best product out of the circunstances that you are given. Also if I do extend, that would be unfair to the people who have been aiming for the original deadline since they could have planned on making something bigger in the first place.

This is something I always believed in even as I observed previous BSE's. I think somewhere along the way when the previous BSE's were hosted, this line of thinking got lost in all the glamour. No offense to the hosts back then, but the idea of 'changing' things up by adding even more bells and whistles may have created new avenues for veterans of the craft but at the same time it left an even bigger void to potentially close for anyone new to the competition.

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Makes sense. But I just want to point out, that some of the more advanced animators or people who are putting more work than others (for lack of a better phrase) will generally take longer. The minutia involved in "upper level" animation is just generally time consuming, which is why I asked over 2 weeks in advance that time is running thin, and isn't just due to procrastination.

I remember there was the same issue last BSE where Yun just didn't have enough time to execute the animation quality that he wanted. I dunno. I'll work as fast as I can, so long as I don't sacrifice quality. If I don't make it, oh well.

This just perplexes me. Sorry for asking this but what's stopping you from releasing a version for the comp that fulfills the combo (you know, the only thing being judged), and then releasing the 'high-quality' version later on in another thread? Working towards a clearly dictated deadline sets a standard for your work ethic unless of course it is constrained by unavoidable irl stuff as Oxob mentions. That's the entire point of the BSE.

And mentioning 'advanced animators' is like saying you want the comp to make adjustments for the few in order to disrupt the many. I mean, if the BSE was really about the "minutia of upper level animation" then shouldn't the BSE just have tiers and brackets like the Game Tribute instead? The reason why the BSE is so beloved because it's easily accessible to anyone who is willing to give the time of day for it and that includes everyone.

I'm sorry if I'm acting so confrontational, I just want to understand.

Because I don't really care about winning and I'm doing it for fun and my enrichment as an animator. There isn't a large chance that I will be completing all rounds just because I have lots to do and not enough time. But, honestly, after being in the animation community for 3.5 years, I no longer have any interest in animating a small combo. Animating larger scale things is just more appealing to me.

It's not about the competition to me. I guess it's the spirit of doing something with actual pressure to finish in time along with having fun as an animator. That's why I said, if I don't finish in time, that's too bad and can't be helped. But I plan on finishing anyway for my own fun.

My thoughts echoed :)

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It's not about the competition to me. I guess it's the spirit of doing something with actual pressure to finish in time along with having fun as an animator. That's why I said, if I don't finish in time, that's too bad and can't be helped. But I plan on finishing anyway for my own fun.

wow, my thoughts :0

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Because I don't really care about winning and I'm doing it for fun and my enrichment as an animator. There isn't a large chance that I will be completing all rounds just because I have lots to do and not enough time. But, honestly, after being in the animation community for 3.5 years, I no longer have any interest in animating a small combo. Animating larger scale things is just more appealing to me.

It's not about the competition to me. I guess it's the spirit of doing something with actual pressure to finish in time along with having fun as an animator. That's why I said, if I don't finish in time, that's too bad and can't be helped. But I plan on finishing anyway for my own fun.

You say that animating things in larger scale is something you're more interested in when bse has always revolved around a short sweet combo, so unless you're making a suggestion to change bse I can't really see why that's important to the competition itself, you still have the opportunity to make a good part..

Whether it is about the competition for you or not doesn't really matter, if you join a competition and you can't meet the due date that's a problem for yourself. I'm certain the hosts are giving enough time for you to complete an animation you're proud of using as an entry. it IS possible.

Also, who are these advanced animators you speak of? This is a competition so thinking about hypothetically categorized animators based on skill isn't really important to the competition, whoever does the better part gets a better score and that's all.

No I don't have a problem with how BSE is run or anything tho, because it's not fair for me to request something that's just tradition at this point be changed bc I want it. It's like, I understand what I'm doing is what the point of BSE is, and I know it's possible to create something you're proud. But, that's not my point. My point is that for some people, just animating a combo gets boring. There has to be some gimmick. Like, even what you did, I've worked on animation like that in the past. So the whole, it's meant to be small mentality doesn't make sense for people that are just doing this for the sake of animating with peers and having fun. Especially considering how barren SP is, there really isn't much opportunity to "shine" as an animator or grow.

I guess this isn't the right comp for me fam

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No I don't have a problem with how BSE is run or anything tho, because it's not fair for me to request something that's just tradition at this point be changed bc I want it. It's like, I understand what I'm doing is what the point of BSE is, and I know it's possible to create something you're proud. But, that's not my point. My point is that for some people, just animating a combo gets boring. There has to be some gimmick. Like, even what you did, I've worked on animation like that in the past. So the whole, it's meant to be small mentality doesn't make sense for people that are just doing this for the sake of animating with peers and having fun. Especially considering how barren SP is, there really isn't much opportunity to "shine" as an animator or grow.

I guess this isn't the right comp for me fam

Excuses excuses, I wonder when you will finish an animation

Even if bse was exactly how you wanted it you probably still wouldn't finish one round