RUMBLE | Skeleton WINS

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Aug 31, 2016 8:59 AM #1459381
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So I suppose we'll be restarting the turn with respect to the fact that cosmic particles is now in effect?


Oh yeah that will change everyone's turn
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Aug 31, 2016 9:43 AM #1459382
Oh yeah what happens if skeleton mimics cosmic?
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Aug 31, 2016 9:46 AM #1459383
Good idea Nyar

That's actually my best chance at winning now.
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Aug 31, 2016 9:49 AM #1459384
Skelly, Cosmic Particles is already in global. Thus, you can't mimic it. No one can. The same goes for Sidekicks.

Alright. RESET the game...


The REAL Round 1

***Cosmic Particles in effect. Everyone gets a -60 Energy Deficit***

Nyarlathotep - 97 Actual Energy for Use: 37
Cosmic Particles - Each round, every Hero must automatically spend 10 Energy per Hero in play.

Sevarus - 50 Actual Energy for Use: -10
Plague - Lose 5 Energy at the end of each round. Whenever you damage another Hero, they contract a copy of Plague.
Blur - If you are Attacked and your Attack is greater than your Attackers Defense, the damage is negated.
Souleater - Gain 50 Energy whenever an opponent leaves the game.
Vampiric Bite - Whenever you damage another Hero, gain Energy equal to half of that damage (rounding down).

Tecness - 26 Actual Energy for Use: -34
Tecness' Cloned Sidekick - 50 Actual Energy for Use: -10
Tecness' Cloned Sidekick's Sidekick - 50 Actual Energy for Use: -10
Tecness' Sidekick - 50 Actual Energy for Use: -10
===Powers===
Very Big - Any damage dealt to you is halved (rounded down).

Person McPerson - 90 Actual Energy for Use: 30
Poisonous Membranes - Whenever you are Attacked, even if you defend against it, your Attacker sustains 3 Points of unavoidable damage.

WyzDM - 98 Actual Energy for Use: 38
Avatar - For every 2 Points of damage you take, instead take 1 and raise the number at which you die by 1.

Skeleton - 120 Actual Energy for Use: 60
Skeleton's Gemini Suit - 20 Actual Energy for Use: -40
=====Both have this Power====
Mimic - Spend X: You may use any single Power in play whose Power Strength is X, this round.

Mimic Menu List (For Skeleton):
Plague (1)
Avatar (2)
Blur (2)
Soul Eater (5)
Poisonous Membranes (10)
Vampiric Bite (10)
Very Big (20)




Alright, so we are back. The only people who can PM me this round are: Nyarly, Person McPerson, Wyz, and Skeleton.

Btw, if I get just Attack in your PMs, I'm assuming that the rest are going to defense unless stated.



PM AWAY GOGOGO!
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Aug 31, 2016 10:00 AM #1459385
I thought all the globals were clearly stated to be as such in their descriptions?

EDIT: Also, question, how does skele have 120 energy?
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Aug 31, 2016 10:01 AM #1459386
Hewitt three things

1) I'm pretty sure I don't get to dupe my 55 starting energy when I make the clone, I thought that was what the dividing my energy between was for.

2) All globals on the power list on that site are explicitly stated as such with a prefix and that is not stated for Cosmic Powers

3) Mimic is pretty explicit about what I'm allowed to Mimic, "Spend X: You may use any single Power in play whose Power Strength is X, this round."

I'll accept your argument that I can't mimic sidekick powers given that they all trigger before start game so in a sense mimicing them wouldn't trigger anything
But there's no way those restrictions apply to Mimic on Cosmic Particles because it's stated as an ordinary power.
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Aug 31, 2016 10:09 AM #1459387
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Hewitt three things

1) I'm pretty sure I don't get to dupe my 55 starting energy when I make the clone, I thought that was what the dividing my energy between was for.


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Gemini Suit (15 Power Strength) - Create a duplicate of any Hero you control, with the same Powers, except Gemini Suit. Divide the duplicated Hero's Starting Energy between the original and the duplicate Hero, and add Energy equal to Gemini Suit's Power Strength to each.


Yes you do. I thought my PM explained it to you already. Did you even read that tl;dr thing?

You started with 55. Gemini dupes it with another 55. From this 55 you gave 5 to your clone, keeping the 50 to yourself.
Add 15 Power Strength to both, and you get 120 while your clone gets 20. That's the Math.


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2) All globals on the power list on that site are explicitly stated as such with a prefix and that is not stated for Cosmic Powers

3) Mimic is pretty explicit about what I'm allowed to Mimic, "Spend X: You may use any single Power in play whose Power Strength is X, this round."


Okay, fine. The reason isn't really that its a global effect, but that it triggers at the start of every round pre-allocation. But your Mimic triggers during the round post-allocation. So, there's no point Mimicking Cosmic Particles because it won't take effect for that current round, and it goes away at the end of it anyway.
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Aug 31, 2016 10:11 AM #1459388
What happens if skele just mimics blur and we all die lol

EDIT: Nevermind, thought about it a bit. He can still just mimic soluleater and OTK lew though.
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Aug 31, 2016 10:22 AM #1459390
K then. I did read it but I thought you made a mistake lol.

So for those of us who can make a move we can either try to kill Nyar and remove the debuff or battle it out to be the last person able to attack and win the game due to it.
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Aug 31, 2016 7:01 PM #1459410
Before going any further, I would like to salute Nylar and Skele with the middle finger for making this so damn complicated. I get a small migraine that gets worse and worse with every visit to this thread.

What's done is done though, I don't think even both of you intended for this to play out as so, but never mind.

Anyone who dies weakens Cosmic Particles, but if Nylar dies the whole thing goes away. With that though, players like Tec and Sevarus will be in full swing, and Sevarus will be able to still use soul eater if we kill Nylar.

So who would like to swing at Sevarus with me?
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Aug 31, 2016 7:18 PM #1459412
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Before going any further, I would like to salute Nylar and Skele with the middle finger for making this so damn complicated. I get a small migraine that gets worse and worse with every visit to this thread.

What's done is done though, I don't think even both of you intended for this to play out as so, but never mind.

Anyone who dies weakens Cosmic Particles, but if Nylar dies the whole thing goes away. With that though, players like Tec and Sevarus will be in full swing, and Sevarus will be able to still use soul eater if we kill Nylar.

So who would like to swing at Sevarus with me?


I would be careful what you wish for.

You have a very powerful defensive abilty but nothing to help you on offence.

even if I get one soul eater I am hardly unstoppable and clones don't count towards Souleater.

Why don't we discuss why you are so dangerous with the high ammount of energy you have.

Also I would be careful if I suvive round 1 not only will you have plague I will also find a way to quickly destroy you.

Have fun thou whyz
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Aug 31, 2016 9:17 PM #1459427
In my defence I spent the last something days trying to ensure this didn't happen by PMimg Hewitt about it before we got to this.
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Sep 1, 2016 1:00 AM #1459446
Quote from Nyarlathotep
What happens if skele just mimics blur and we all die lol

EDIT: Nevermind, thought about it a bit. He can still just mimic soluleater and OTK lew though.


Note the following:

a) Skele can only use Mimic once for one particular power. Once per character he has anyway.
EDIT: aaaand I'm an idiot. He can spam Mimic any number of times as long as he has the cost to pay for it.

b) He can mimic Blur and Souleater, but he has to be sure their requirements are also present. If he mimics Souleater but nobody dies for the round, his mimic is useless.
c) Mimic only applies to all powers in play, so if Sevarus dies early game, his powers will no longer be Mimic-able.
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Sep 1, 2016 5:50 AM #1459458
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I would be careful what you wish for.

You have a very powerful defensive abilty but nothing to help you on offence.

even if I get one soul eater I am hardly unstoppable and clones don't count towards Souleater.

Why don't we discuss why you are so dangerous with the high ammount of energy you have.

Also I would be careful if I suvive round 1 not only will you have plague I will also find a way to quickly destroy you.

Have fun thou whyz


I assumed you would be after me anyway. I first made motions for why you should be left alone, to try and see if you would start an alliance or give some insight into how you thought the clone matter should be addressed. Instead you've done nothing but tell me off and state the game's over anyway before even playing. Now that cosmic particles is in effect, this is the time you choose to trashtalk me? I don't know what your gameplan is but it's a poor one at that. My only interest is the level the field slightly. You've contributed nothing to the discussion.

Also, don't spell my name with an "h" it looks hideous,

What do you plan to mimic skele?
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Sep 1, 2016 6:08 AM #1459459
Just a clarification on Sevarus' interpretation of Souleater: It is based on whether the opponent leaves the game. Not the heroes. Ergo, Tecness for example will not trigger Souleater if he dies. However, if every hero of Tecness' is gone, that's when Sevarus can gain 50.

tl;dr, Souleater is not dependent on which hero dies but the player who is eliminated.