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Ai is correct, while we have a Hope Fragment no one will die tonight. There's no point in waiting for a day because the next day wouldn't matter. Or are you saying we should wait until someone dies?

Not after someone die, but like after the first day, at least the aruta can confirm that at least 1 person is from the hope or despair side, so we can easier deduct who to protect or execute, also giving out the items to as well. Not to mention others can use their items investigating others as well aside from the aruta, so more info we can get after 1 day.

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Oh sweet, we have a Graduation Album. Who do you guys want under the microscope? I suggest one of the guys listed by Ai, since we do need to know if they're worth the effort of protecting later.

But that does not mean the person is not from the bad side, but it's still worth a shot though.

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Oh sweet, we have a Graduation Album. Who do you guys want under the microscope? I suggest one of the guys listed by Ai, since we do need to know if they're worth the effort of protecting later.

I agree with this. That being said, I want to confirm something: the bobojo dolls only give you random items right? You don't get to choose which items you get right?

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Not after someone die, but like after the first day, at least the aruta can confirm that at least 1 person is from the hope or despair side, so we can easier deduct who to protect or execute, also giving out the items to as well. Not to mention others can use their items investigating others as well aside from the aruta, so more info we can get after 1 day.

I see. Good point.

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But that does not mean the person is not from the bad side, but it's still worth a shot though.

It simply means that person isn't Traitor but the chance of being Kuro is there.

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I agree with this. That being said, I want to confirm something: the bobojo dolls only give you random items right? You don't get to choose which items you get right?

Yeah. Hewitt would PM us the random item we get from the Bojobo Dolls.

Alright. I agree with Drizzle, using the Bobojo dolls seem more effective if we use them tomorrow. We can use a stick or someone's ability to save someone with a cop item and those with cop items can be used to reveal more people. If they refuse, then it's more evident that those people are Despair.

Hmm... There's a 20% chance of catching a traitor, 20% chance of a successful protection, 20% chance each of the Ai's listed ppls of being targeted by Kuro (and 20% chance of me being killed)

I dunno, I'd say we protect Smile since his/her ability can allow for hope/despair deduction

Do cop items follow the same rules as the Aruta, or are the items more honest?

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Do cop items follow the same rules as the Aruta, or are the items more honest?

What items are you pertaining to exactly? And what do you mean by more honest / "same rules as Aruta"?

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What items are you pertaining to exactly? And what do you mean by more honest / "same rules as Aruta"?

I thought there were more items that had cop roles lol. I mean glasses and other items that reveal roles. The Aruta can be tricked as per the rules of the Ultra Despair Student and Despair Disease patient, do the items follow the same limitations?

Tbh, I decided it would be my best judgement to run this game even after only having translated only 80% of the items. So yeah, there are more, hopefully I can get them up if this thread gets a Round 2.

The items only see what theyre suppose to. So the glasses will still see what Aruta sees. The camera sees the ROLE, not the allegiance. The Album simply detects Traitors so if it targets a Kuro, it will give you a NO. Same with the Silent Receiver.



We've also read some interesting rule additions upon retranslating them. But for the sake of fairness I shan't be applying them to this game. But it's really interesting to say the least.

I have Glasses and Despair Bat

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What's got me suspicious is why Smile is so eager to reveal items. First to suggest it, first to bring it BACK up, first to push it forward when people questioned it...

Seriously? I was asking everyone what they thought, and when people voiced concerns which I already thought of, I told them my opinion. Sorry for defending a plan that I would not have suggested in the first place if I knew it wouldn't make sense. I wasn't even saying it SHOULD be the first thing we should do, I just made a suggestion and it made sense to some people. Sorry for trying to make an actual contribution to the game.

The only reason I even had to bring it back up is because discussion on it had to be postponed due to you messing up and that had to be talked about first. When all that was over, of course I wanted to bring up my own plan again. What did you expect me to do, wait for someone else to bring it up?

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I mean, if he's Kuro, or at least a traitor HELPING Kuro....that tells him precisely what he needs to know to develop strategy.

On the other hand, if I was Hope, then that tells me precisely what I need to know to develop a strategy. Isn't that a surprise?



I want to ask a clarification though: does Hope Fragment negate ALL attacks from Kuro or is it just for the person who's holding it? If it's the former then yeah I'd say let's way for tomorrow.

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1) ErrorBlender
Bojobo Doll
Kokeshi Dynamo

2) Ai
Staff of Monomi
Sea Salt

3) DoctorNoob1
Kirlian Camera
Vise

4) Person McPerson [updated from McPerson's post]
Someone's Graduation Album
Crystal Skull

5) Drizzle
Bojobo Doll
Tips and Tricks

6) Smile
Despair Bat
Glasses

7) Skeleton
G-Sick Watch
Sea Salt

8) Alphaeus
Staff of Mogami
Silent Reciever

9) Raptor
Hope Fragment
Crystal Skull

I added Smile's items to the list. According to this:

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Would like to clarify on this. As I just recently counted the deck of cards, there is NO item with a single copy. The lowest is 2 the highest is 5.

Seems like we have a bunch of liars.

Let me list down items that only have single copies:
Kokeshi Dynamo
Kirlian Camera
Vise
Someone's Graduation Album
Tips and Tricks
Despair Glasses
Silent Receiver
Hope Fragment
G-Sick Watch

Items that does have doubles;
Staff of Monomi
Sea Salt
Crystal Skull

This means one of two, or both things:
One or more of the items listed aren't actually in play.
People are hiding their actual items.

So this is all the items we have so far:
Bojobo Doll: 2 - Me & Error
Staff of Mogami: 2 - Alpha & Ai
Sea Salt: 2 - Ai & Skele
Crystal Skull: 2 - Person & Raptor
Kokeshi Dynamo
Kirlian Camera
Vise
Someone's Graduation Album
Tips and Tricks
Despair Bat
Glasses
G-Sick Watch
Silent Reciever
Hope Fragment

So those that doesn't have a single copy can be placecd in suspicion now.

Been there, done that. Which also means everyone else besides me.

Your list is wrong btw, and I believe that it's safe to say that me, Error, Alpha, Ai, Skele, Person, Raptor are at least less suspicious than the rest since we at least have items in common which it's supposed to be, and that why would we even lie about the other items anyway. Only those that lied about both of their items like the rest of them are the reasons why the other items did not make up to at least 2.

Ah, right. There's also a chance where those with single items aren't lying about their items but get screwed over by the others lying.

So one suggestion I have is for those with single items is to use them today. In order to expose their lies, somewhat