Quote from Raptor

Yes, but you'd have to declare it first, which means your strategy probably won't work until later in the game.

Ok, I'll see Hewitt about it

I have a G-Sick Watch and Sea Salt

I have the Bojobo Doll and the Kokeshi Dynamo.

I can't really say that its not suspicious bit it is the only thing left, as Hope, to rationally do before coming up with a plan. In Mafia, we're supposed to reveal what we have hidden to foster trust and then concoct what we can do next; what we have is items since our powers are revealed at the start of the game.

Quote from Alphaeus

Haven't developed a tactic yet...waiting to see how things go down.

Also, we can't wait for long. We have three days per Day period and waiting for things to happen sounds like stalling the game further. Only Despair benefits from that. I suggest we use the Bojobo Doll to sift through the item deck for the Graduation Album but the only difficult thing I can think of with this plan is that we may give Despair extra items as well with wrong picks.

What do you guys think?

Can two people have the same items at the game start?

I noticed there are 18 items for a 9 person game...makes sense. If there isn't overlap...

Someone's already lying, because we have two Bojobo Dolls listed. Unless, of course, there IS overlap. In which case, nevermind.

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Anyhow, I agree -- use the Bojobo Dolls now (whether both of you have them of or not). Also, I do have a tactic, which is primarily to wait until after the first attack/lynching to use my Silent Receiver. Right now there is a good chance I'll just waste it on somebody I already suspect to be Hope.

Quote from Alphaeus

Can two people have the same items at the game start?

I noticed there are 18 items for a 9 person game...makes sense. If there isn't overlap...

Someone's already lying, because we have two Bojobo Dolls listed. Unless, of course, there IS overlap. In which case, nevermind.

Quote from Hewitt

Items
At the beginning of each game, Players will be given 2 Random Items from the list below. Items can help the class in various ways including Kill prevention or Vote manipulation. Some Items have multiple copies, others don't. Items, like Character Abilities can only be used at certain times of the day. Please refer to the list to see when the Item can be used. All items must be manually declared to be activated unless stated otherwise as a passive item. They are discarded once used.

Pretty sure they can have multiples.

Also, I do not think you would waste it. Having a confirmed Hope is nearly as good as being able to confirm a Despair.

Alright, I suppose. Either way, though, I can't do it until nighttime, obviously.

Which I suppose I'll do. I have two people right now I'm considering.

Quote from Alphaeus

Can two people have the same items at the game start?

I noticed there are 18 items for a 9 person game...makes sense. If there isn't overlap...

Someone's already lying, because we have two Bojobo Dolls listed. Unless, of course, there IS overlap. In which case, nevermind.

Yes, there are overlaps. I wanted to clarify this as soon as possible since I was also considering the item plan that Smile had. Unfortunately since multiple copies exist, it's not as effective, but it's a start. More information, the better, even if its lies.

Quote from ErrorBlender

Also, we can't wait for long. We have three days per Day period and waiting for things to happen sounds like stalling the game further. Only Despair benefits from that. I suggest we use the Bojobo Doll to sift through the item deck for the Graduation Album but the only difficult thing I can think of with this plan is that we may give Despair extra items as well with wrong picks.

What do you guys think?

I agree with using Bobojo dolls early on. You're more likely to target Hope people and most items are anti-Kuro anyways, which means they won't benefit Kuro in most cases.

Quote from Raptor

Yes, there are overlaps. I wanted to clarify this as soon as possible since I was also considering the item plan that Smile had. Unfortunately since multiple copies exist, it's not as effective, but it's a start. More information, the better, even if its lies.


I agree with using Bobojo dolls early on. You're more likely to target Hope people and most items are anti-Kuro anyways, which means they won't benefit Kuro in most cases.

They're anti-Kuro, yes. But the thing is if it does get to Kuro's hands we can consider that item useless, since Kuro won't be using it, since they benefit from using it. Which is why I think revealing the items is a good thing since they'll be forced to use them; for example, if the Wand of Monomi falls into Kuro's hands he'll be forced to play it to avoid suspicion.

Which raises another question; should we use our protective items starting from now? I don't think we'd want to blow through all of them at once but not using them are a lot more waste then not.

Quote from _Ai_

Which raises another question; should we use our protective items starting from now? I don't think we'd want to blow through all of them at once but not using them are a lot more waste then not.

Tbh, we don't even know who to protect.

Copied the list on the front page and compiled the items we have.

1) ErrorBlender
Bojobo Doll
Kokeshi Dynamo

2) Ai
Staff of Monomi
Sea Salt

3) DoctorNoob1
Kirlian Camera
Vise

4) Person McPerson [updated from McPerson's post]
Someone's Graduation Album
Crystal Skull

5) Drizzle
Bojobo Doll
Tips and Tricks

6) Smile

7) Skeleton
G-Sick Watch
Sea Salt

8) Alphaeus
Staff of Mogami
Silent Reciever

9) Raptor
Hope Fragment
Crystal Skull

Right now we have two Bojobo Dolls in play. I say we use them now, sift through the items for the Grad book or the Silent Receiver so we can get to confirm people. It would be great too if Person and Smile would reveal their items too. Probably timezone weirdness, though. Since we have two dolls, do we use target the same people or do we spread it out? I would vote for concentrating it on people but we're so low on info that I'd actually have to consider spreading it.

Yeah, I vote on spreads

I think we can go for protecting Skele because of his G-Sick Watch, which extends the discussion time in the class trial.
Error, because of his class trial extension ability.
Smile for the autopsy ability.
Doctor for his Camera
Alph for his Silent Receiver

These are the candidates that can use our protection. We can also use Alph's ability to give away his Receiver in order to lessen the amount of people we should protect.

We also have at least 2 days of ease since my ability can negate a kill once, and once again with Raptor's item.

Quote from ErrorBlender

Pretty sure they can have multiples.

Also, I do not think you would waste it. Having a confirmed Hope is nearly as good as being able to confirm a Despair.

Would like to clarify on this. As I just recently counted the deck of cards, there is NO item with a single copy. The lowest is 2 the highest is 5.

Quote from ErrorBlender

Since we have two dolls, do we use target the same people or do we spread it out? I would vote for concentrating it on people but we're so low on info that I'd actually have to consider spreading it.

Wouldn't it be better if we wait for at least a day to have more info to give out the items? Then it would be way better to concentrating the confirmed hope.

Aight, I'm going to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. Here's my items.
1. Someone's Graduation Album
2. Crystal Skull

Quote from Drizzle

Wouldn't it be better if we wait for at least a day to have more info to give out the items? Then it would be way better to concentrating the confirmed hope.

Ai is correct, while we have a Hope Fragment no one will die tonight. There's no point in waiting for a day because the next day wouldn't matter. Or are you saying we should wait until someone dies?

Quote from Person McPerson

Aight, I'm going to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. Here's my items.
1. Someone's Graduation Album
2. Crystal Skull

Oh sweet, we have a Graduation Album. Who do you guys want under the microscope? I suggest one of the guys listed by Ai, since we do need to know if they're worth the effort of protecting later.