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I was crucified, not burned.

Nice save.

you dont need to be complimented for doing something good, because its the right thing and that should be good enough. In gods eyes (figuratively speaking).

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I found this very interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RV46fsmx6E

The guys say we get closer to the proof that God doesn't exist, and we can sometime explain everything in the world. But maybe that is God, trying to make us forget about him, so he can stop thinking about us.

Please stay ontopic guys.

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The guys say we get closer to the proof that God doesn't exist, and we can sometime explain everything in the world. But maybe that is God, trying to make us forget about him, so he can stop thinking about us.

Please stay ontopic guys.

That's the most desperate argument I've heard in a long time.

I think God does care. think for example if you kill someone, you get punished. Adam sinned so we as the human race, got punished.

That was thousands of years a go, mate.

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That was thousands of years a go, mate.

it doesn't matter :|. Adam and Eve cursed the human race by disobeying gods only order to them, when they broke that rule, he cursed them and their descendants, the descandents being us and the entirety of the human race.

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Dude this makes for a really cool movie.

This thread was buried.. Don't just dig like that.

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it doesn't matter :|. Adam and Eve cursed the human race by disobeying gods only order to them, when they broke that rule, he cursed them and their descendants, the descandents being us and the entirety of the human race.

We haven't done anything though. I refuse to carry guilt for something I don't believe in, whether it is meant to be literal or not.

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it doesn't matter :|. Adam and Eve cursed the human race by disobeying gods only order to them, when they broke that rule, he cursed them and their descendants, the descandents being us and the entirety of the human race.

if he didnt we would not have technology

See the thing is though, that Bonk, all humans have the capacity to sin, and if Adam and Eve hadn't eaten from the tree some one else would have.

Also I would heartily recommend a book that I am ready currently, it provides a Christian sided argument to the Atheist debate. It is call the "End of Reason".

It throws across some decent ideas about this topic, as well as about the Atheist's refusal to be placed in the same boat as any other Atheist yet willing to generalize every one else at the drop of a hat if it suits their argument.

if they were not cursed whith evil then so who made them do it
the devil only lied to them
this all is one big lie

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See the thing is though, that Bonk, all humans have the capacity to sin, and if Adam and Eve hadn't eaten from the tree some one else would have.

This whole concept of "sin" is a bad one imo. And I fail to see your point here. We all have the capacity to sin, sure, but why should we be held guilty for someone else's sin?

Also I would heartily recommend a book that I am ready currently, it provides a Christian sided argument to the Atheist debate. It is call the "End of Reason".

Sum it up here bro.

It throws across some decent ideas about this topic, as well as about the Atheist's refusal to be placed in the same boat as any other Atheist yet willing to generalize every one else at the drop of a hat if it suits their argument.

"the Atheist"? Isn't that... egad, a generalization?

Fillaaaar .

Yes but I didn't say that I/or Christians generally don't generalize. I am also referring to the group of people who believe that there is no god.

As for the book, I will once I finish it >_> Although I do think that you should read it as I have read "The God Delusion" which I have to say is full of the rhetoric, malice and bigotry that it so harshly accuses religion of using.

As for the sin thing.

Adam and Eve represent the whole of humanity.