Why does there have to be? A human being's only real purpose is to reproduce, we just created all this other stuff because we could.

And someone told me a valid point today. Who would want eternal life? You'd get pretty bored after a while. You live, you do stuff, you die. It doesn't HAVE to be more complicated than that, and religions are a result of people wanting it to be.

Yeah i made a thread on that called "afterlife"

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I'm only wrong in your opinion...

What would be our purpose in living? If we just lived for 70 years, and died and didn't live again, then it would be the most pointless thing. Why do we have religions? Create things, work, have 'opinions' towards something etc.
I just don't see what the point would be in living. There must be a purpose?

Not only is there no logical reason to choose 1 religion over another, (in effect sending you to Hell in other religions) but you're looking for a pattern on the wall that isn't there.

Well god gave us free will. And he does good things and helps in his ways, but we only notice the bad things. (if he exists) and there is also that satan bastard who gets in the way O_o.

But yea, he might not exist but even so. I am happy that even if its a made up story that it was made (I know a lot of people murder because of religion (Moslims >_>) but still)

It gives people hope to believe in someone even if it doesn't exist. Hope is a lot. YES I SAID IT.

Not trying to offend anyone btw.

"Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able, and willing?
Then whence cometh evil.
Is he neither able nor willing
then why call him God?"

-- Epicurus 341–270 BCE

This thread reminds me of a song quote..
Bring me the horizon - Chelsea Smile, to be precise. I know it has nothing to do with answering does he care or not, but still;

'If I don't believe in him.
Why would he believe in me?'

Also, I don't believe in god, so, no. He doesn't care. He just got bored and whipped us up.

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"Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able, and willing?
Then whence cometh evil.
Is he neither able nor willing
then why call him God?"

-- Epicurus 341–270 BCE

Nice quote of something that has been spread around the internet to death.

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Nice quote of something that has been spread around the internet to death.

Epicurus is that popular?

I had no idea that Greek philosophy and ancient cultures were that common on Teh Intartubes

lol

Epicurus is that epic, yes.

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I'm only wrong in your opinion...

What would be our purpose in living? If we just lived for 70 years, and died and didn't live again, then it would be the most pointless thing. Why do we have religions? Create things, work, have 'opinions' towards something etc.
I just don't see what the point would be in living. There must be a purpose?

A short exchange between Bertrand Russell and a detractor illustrates it's point perfectly:

(This is paraphrased)

Some person: You're life must be pretty bleak if you don't believe in anything.
Russell: Actually, I'm looking forward to a good lunch.


Atheists and agnostics don't look forward to an afterlife. We don't need to have a reward (Heaven) or a punishment (Hell) to behave, either.

We look forward to what we have yet to experience in life. I live to accomplish the goals I have set.

I think that if you need an afterlife as an incentive to continue living, you're missing something.


Life doesn't need a purpose or a point, just like the rain doesn't need a purpose to be falling on your house.

Also, the purpose of religion is to explain natural phenomena. There have never been any religions created before the dawn of computers that has NOT been made for that purpose.

And we can have differenct oppinions without religion.


@Peckerwood:

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Atheists and agnostics don't look forward to an afterlife. We don't need to have a reward (Heaven) or a punishment (Hell) to behave, either.

Holy shit, can you speak for your fucking self please?

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We look forward to what we have yet to experience in life. I live to accomplish the goals I have set.

I think that if you need an afterlife as an incentive to continue living, you're missing something.


Life doesn't need a purpose or a point, just like the rain doesn't need a purpose to be falling on your house.

Though I've taken to staying away from the whole religion debate thing altogether, this is something I have to really agree with.

The idea that life is bleak without belief in something greater than reality has always seemed really ignorant to me. There are so many things in the world that are beautiful, massive, or just bafflingly complex.

This video is a perfect example of what I mean.

I never understood how somebody could possibly think that "reality" as we understand it, isn't amazing enough as it is. Just being alive and having the potential to explore the world and see things that make you think should be enough to make life worth living, without needing to add elements of the supernatural/divine/holy/whatever to make things more interesting.

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Holy shit, can you speak for your fucking self please?

Yeah, it's totally possible for an atheist to look forward to an afterlife. And the only reason some atheists act good is to please a god they don't believe in.

I'm sorry, but you're remark was bloody stupid. Sit in the corner.

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Yeah, it's totally possible for an atheist to look forward to an afterlife. And the only reason some atheists act good is to please a god they don't believe in.

I'm sorry, but you're remark was bloody stupid. Sit in the corner.

You are.

/grammarnazi

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Yeah, it's totally possible for an atheist to look forward to an afterlife. And the only reason some atheists act good is to please a god they don't believe in.

I'm sorry, but you're remark was bloody stupid. Sit in the corner.

Uh, it is possible for atheists to look forward to an afterlife...lol. Deity =/= afterlife. You also included agnostics in that post of yours, which is completely possible for them to look forward to an afterlife as well. The aspects of heaven and hell are just concepts brought into religion, not the other way around. Someone could believe in reincarnation while not believing Hinduism and other religions that use the concept, and its the same with any other afterlife.

I dislike being included with someone like you as it is, I don't want you spewing bullshit on my behalf. I'm sorry but you remark me as an arrogant tool.