Do people need god?

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Feb 24, 2008 8:39 PM #85233
Yes, but as they got more "civilized" they moved away from that. Most of our atheistical ideas are only 500 years old, where the Bible's ideas have been around for several thousand, along with alot of 'holy' ideas.
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Feb 24, 2008 9:13 PM #85238
My opinion on this matter is that the answer to your question is completely subjective. If you believe in a god, then you know for a fact in YOUR mind that everyone NEEDS a god. Atheists can live without the belief in a higher spiritual being, and much of the world today does. I believe that many moral beliefs stem from religion, and (certain) religions morals do tend to encompass many of our laws. But for humanity to simply survive and co-exist, religion may not be needed today. It comes down to what you believe about how religious people interact, and how non-theistic people interact. You can say non- theists live together more peacefully, with no god to supposedly tell them crazy things to do(i.e, Jonestown). Or you could say that in an ideal situation, religious people work better together, without flaw. It's all about where your belief starts, then every thing else you see as evidence simply reinforces it from there, an atheist sees the world as it is and decides a god is not needed. A religious individual, as mentioned before, has a different starting point, and different ideas reinforcing their beliefs.


Personally, I'm for religion. I believe in religious morals and a god that are needed to help us operate as a whole, otherwise they are just changeable laws that mean nothing other than what the current society believes to be "the right thing".




In all honesty, I'm not sure if I answered anything at all in that post.
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Feb 24, 2008 9:41 PM #85247
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Well, all you have to do is look at history. Since the human mind has developed, humans have naturally been drawn to the idea of god/gods/spirits. Even if they are primitive


So.. ? Just because a bunch of people believe in something, doesn't make it true.
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Feb 24, 2008 9:42 PM #85248
hmmm...
I don't really think the human race needs a God. I can't really think of a reason why though.

Off topic:The dumbasses in my YEAR 6! (the top Y6 Class) class would be like Whuuu? whut dus tht meen? There just complete Dumbasses except a few that are (half) my friends
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Feb 24, 2008 9:43 PM #85249
@2-D: Again, whether it's true or not is not the point.

I'm asking whether people need faith or not.
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Feb 24, 2008 9:49 PM #85254
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Honestly, why bother debating Creation Vs evolution? It's a ****ing stalemate. Neither can be without a doubt proven, nor disproven until death. Either you die and you cease to exist, and you'll never know. Or you die, go to heaven\hell and do know.

Or..you might believe in reincarnation, which is impossible to prove although it may actually be truth.

And Ash, want to know why I hate evolution and atheism? People like you.

Always assuming you're right, close-minded pricks. Not saying all atheists are like that, but because of people like you I can hardly trust any one of them.

TL;DR: **** you. Consider other possibilities, and before you play the hypocrite card I used to believe in crap like evolution. I thought about the other, and it simply made more sense to me.


Straw man argument. Really weak.

If you cannot prove yours, why do you keep trying to disprove the other?
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Feb 24, 2008 10:12 PM #85257
Yeah, gods pulled a quite alot of people out of rough spots in there lives.

Its helped people better themselves and be generous and selflessly giving to others in need.

Its brought people together in times of stress, sadness and suffering and given them the strength to work through it.




Now I bet your expecting a witty comment eradicating all sincerity of this post, but alas, I cannot bring myself to insult something that has done so much good in the world.




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i bet god watches foot porn olol
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Feb 24, 2008 10:18 PM #85258
In my thoughts, religion was only made to explain things that were unexplainable long ago like weather, astronomy, and birth. It also calmed people down and gave them positive thinking whenever something bad happened, like someone's death, or strange weather, etc. They would just say, "(insert religious icon here) wanted it, he made it happen, he had a good reason, there's your explanation," or, "(insert religious icon here) will make it ok, it'll happen soon, he'll take his time."

Then science came along and things were explained more logically. But people who were already long-time followers of a religion stayed because they didn't want to leave something that their ancestors have been with for so long that they thought it to be true. That's what we call faith. So, religion was pretty much the placeholder for science back then.

Now that we have science, and we know how things work, we probably don't need religion, but some people have already practically sold their souls to their religion, and they actually need it to have something in life.
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Feb 24, 2008 10:31 PM #85261
Like dragon said, I think people might have needed a god or deity earlier in history. But that could have just been a collective ideal aswell. People can be rallied up at the thought of freedom as much as they can at they thought of people are mocking their lord. The way the human mind has evolved, and our technological advancements have progressed, I don't think we need the concept of a god or deity anymore. Some people could I guess, its a hard concept to swallow that once you die there is nothing left. And if it helps people get through life and hardships then it would be fine, but it never just ends there. And its the bad things gods have caused that really make me cringe.
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Feb 25, 2008 12:03 AM #85275
We have needed god in the early ages for all creation.Man, this is my opinion, DO need god.No god, no order, therfor all of us would go to hell.And i your a complete reataurd who thinks " ZOMG YOU COULD ASK FER LIKE FORGINES EN STUF!" than tell me this.Ask who?
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Feb 25, 2008 12:12 AM #85276
what the hell are you talking about
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Feb 25, 2008 12:55 AM #85287
I revoke every statement I made in this thread.. You know how I feel, but it doesn't matter.

I'm not visiting this website anymore.

Goodbye.
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Feb 25, 2008 12:58 AM #85288
noooooo! not e=mc cubed!!!! favorite member!!! how will i go on!!!!
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Feb 25, 2008 1:26 AM #85292
I don't think there is any general answer for this. A lot of people needs to know if there's a higher purpose of life, religion can satisfy that need. A lot of people needs something to explain what they doesn't understand, religion can satisfy that need. I'm sure that if you strip away religion, a lot of people would feel meaningless.

However, some people doesn't need religion at all. I, for one, do not believe in any higher being or deity that can directly interact in my life. Still, I have had a successful life so far. I don't need to believe in a god to find a purpose in life, or explain to me what I don't understand. In fact, I don't need the beautiful sunset to be explained for me at all.

So I'd say it's more of a personal question than a general. I don't think anyone can say that "We all need religion!" or "No one needs religion! Get rid of that bullshit!" Let people believe whatever they wants to believe.

Every post in this thread is tl;dr. Including mine
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Feb 25, 2008 3:59 AM #85334
Quote from E=mc_cubed
I revoke every statement I made in this thread.. You know how I feel, but it doesn't matter.

I'm not visiting this website anymore.

Goodbye.


Don't forget to close the door when you leave.

The things you do are directly influenced in how you feel. When you believe in god, you are confident because you believe someone up there is protecting you. This doesn't necessarily mean you're being protected.

In the end, God it's just both the answer to the questions that transcend us, and someone who can inspire us with confidence, since you know, believing that some guy in heaven is going to protect you is far more plausible than thinking that you won't get hurt because you desire so.