If a tree falls in a forest...

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Feb 11, 2009 8:28 PM #355785
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there is no such thing as sound, giant machines control everything and anything, using us as their puppets. our lives are obsolete, a simple tree falling an outcome of countless calculations to impersonate the real thing. we are all plugged to machines, everyday occurences an outcome of a random event generator. our dead bodies will be melted down and used to feed others.

Yes, i was depressed too when i first found this out.


Not only was that so close to what the evidence points to that it's astounding, but it is also dead wrong.

I'll edit it to make it more accurate.

Our lives are meaningless and don't require a meaning, a simple tree falling is the outcome of countless events that can be represented by mathematical calculations. We are all machines, everyday occurrences are the outcome of seemingly random, yet wholly interdependent events. Our dead bodies will rot and be used to feed the circle of life.
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Feb 11, 2009 8:31 PM #355786
There was such a big point to why you edited his post...
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Feb 11, 2009 8:58 PM #355812
Well, his post was useless to begin with, because it was discussing the relevance of the falling of the tree rather than whether it actually made a sound, and since the debate is pretty much over now, seeing as how no one has made any serious progress showing that the tree does NOT make a sound and others have shown that it probably DOES make a sound, I'd say that my highlight and edit of his post was equally relevant to the finished debate.






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Feb 11, 2009 10:48 PM #355885
Congratulations. You have stumbled across the first ever post of the legendary member, Zed. He has hijacked this particular post for the purpose saving Skyblaze quotes, hence what you will see below. If you desire to see the original post, it has been quoted at least once in this thread, it shouldn't be hard.

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Feb 11, 2009 10:49 PM #355890
Quote from zed
Quantum theory says that nothing exists at all unless it is obserevd, although there is frankly no way you could possibly find an area in a forest in which there wasn't even a butterfly or a bacterium there to hear the tree fall (can bacteria hear?).

Any tree falling in a forest in real life will make a noise, but, for the purposes of a thought experiment, no, a tree falling with no one around to hear it does not make a noise.

Come to think of it the tree wouldn't exist at all if there was no one there to hear it so it couldn't possibly fall.




If a tree falls in a forest with only a deaf person watching it, does it make a noise?

Why answer with a similar question?
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Feb 11, 2009 10:58 PM #355895
it was an extension of the origional. If there is no one around then the tree will not make a noise, but if a deaf person is there it may or may not.

I answered the first question and then put in what someone else would surely have pointed out had i not done so.
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Feb 11, 2009 11:09 PM #355901
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The real question is, why the hell did that tree fall? Tree's dont spontaneously fall down without some means of leverage, usually a bulldozer or something.

Yeah they do, dumbass.
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Feb 11, 2009 11:58 PM #355935
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Quantum theory says that nothing exists at all unless it is obserevd


Could you show me 3 sources and a peer-reviewed journal to back up that claim, please?
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Feb 12, 2009 8:11 AM #356150
yes. But it could take some time. bear with me for a couple of days.
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Feb 12, 2009 9:06 AM #356154
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Could you show me 3 sources and a peer-reviewed journal to back up that claim, please?


I'm not sure about quantum theory stating that "nothing exists unless observed," but it absolutely deals with an observers effect on the environment. Take for example Schrödinger's cat and the double-slit experiment.
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Feb 12, 2009 9:10 AM #356155
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Quantum theory says that nothing exists at all unless it is obserevd, although there is frankly no way you could possibly find an area in a forest in which there wasn't even a butterfly or a bacterium there to hear the tree fall (can bacteria hear?).

Any tree falling in a forest in real life will make a noise, but, for the purposes of a thought experiment, no, a tree falling with no one around to hear it does not make a noise.

Come to think of it the tree wouldn't exist at all if there was no one there to hear it so it couldn't possibly fall.




If a tree falls in a forest with only a deaf person watching it, does it make a noise?


Depends whether the deaf person knows what sounds is and what it's like. If you "knows" the tree should make a sound it does.

But then again, I'm not really into this "no observer no effect" thing, doesn't float my boat.
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Feb 12, 2009 11:47 AM #356171
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I'm not sure about quantum theory stating that "nothing exists unless observed," but it absolutely deals with an observers effect on the environment. Take for example Schrödinger's cat and the double-slit experiment.


Oh, well thats no contest, obviously.
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Feb 12, 2009 11:59 AM #356172
who are the idiots who voted no
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Feb 12, 2009 2:26 PM #356194
I did for shits and giggles.
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Feb 12, 2009 5:06 PM #356236
since this thread is pretty much useless now, ill do it again.
first, /thread

Machines control everything, even the interweb. one day they will come and PWNZOR us just for fun and it will result like this: