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May 9, 2009 2:09 AM #414903
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Hi peeps, im new here incase you havent guessed already. Ive had pivot for a while, but i only discovered this site about a week ago. So the only thing to do now is to post my pivs and hope people think it pwns. Anis coming as soon as I figure out how to post them!
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May 9, 2009 6:52 AM #415054
Excellent. If I were being really pedantic I could make a few small comments about the animation, like I don't think the blue guy falls fast enough after the last kick and I think the orage guy's body should be pushed back a little as well when he catches the blue guy's foot at the very beginning, but beyond that it's really good.

One thing that I would criticise is the background. In places it seems 3D and in other places it doesn't. I think you need to try to make the roofs deeper.
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May 9, 2009 6:56 AM #415056
The animation was quite smooth, with good spacing. The one thing you need to improve upon is that it is quite stiff at parts. I particularly didn't like the punch on the ground.
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May 9, 2009 7:40 AM #415075
Awesome. Thats a pretty good reply for my FIRST POST EVER. You guys rule.
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May 9, 2009 8:02 AM #415082
lots of the physics were off, unless you wanted it to be like that.. and pretty stiff at parts. but the rest was good.
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May 9, 2009 3:26 PM #415370
Yes, and as Lemon said - stiff. Very stiff.
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May 9, 2009 3:31 PM #415381
It'd be better if you'd go to the beginners section. You can post out of here when you get better :] It was stiff and the reactions were off. The 3d on the background was off too.
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May 10, 2009 2:59 AM #415897
After all, since im new here, anybody mind telling me where the beginners section is?
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May 10, 2009 4:12 AM #415915
Never mind, i found it
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May 10, 2009 9:14 AM #415969
Oh lord, everyone that said this is good is a moron. Seriously. You're just letting him in for a fall later. It was low beginner. There was no easing in the bodyparts because NONE OF THEM MOVED; it was too stiff, and the physics sucked. You used sticks of droidz and a background of droidz. Without those two, people might have looked at it differently (and not thought It was good because of them). Practice simple things such as walking and running, then move on to more complex things.
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May 10, 2009 6:16 PM #416314
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Oh lord, everyone that said this is good is a moron. Seriously. You're just letting him in for a fall later. It was low beginner. There was no easing in the bodyparts because NONE OF THEM MOVED; it was too stiff, and the physics sucked. You used sticks of droidz and a background of droidz. Without those two, people might have looked at it differently (and not thought It was good because of them). Practice simple things such as walking and running, then move on to more complex things.


How can that be considered low beginner? Have you seen a low beginner animation? This is a low beginner animation (mine):
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So is this (not mine, fire and ice's):
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This was much better than those for a number of reasons.

1. They actually reacted to being hit and did so reasonably.
2. It wasn't choppy.
3. They moved at a reasonable speed for the effects that were being attempted.
4. There's nothing wrong with the physics. Yes, the blue guy doesn't fall at the end when he's being hit four times, but that's an effect. It's in slow motion to accentuate the hits.
5. You can't criticise him for not moving parts which shouldn't be moved in the sequence that he is attempting. Admitedly, there is little body movement, but there are only a few places where the body actually needs to be moved. The only really stiff bits which shouldn't be are the landings.

He cannot possibly be lower than med/high beginner.
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May 10, 2009 6:31 PM #416326
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How can that be considered low beginner? Have you seen a low beginner animation? This is a low beginner animation (mine):
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So is this (not mine, fire and ice's):
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This was much better than those for a number of reasons.

1. They actually reacted to being hit and did so reasonably.
2. It wasn't choppy.
3. They moved at a reasonable speed for the effects that were being attempted.
4. There's nothing wrong with the physics. Yes, the blue guy doesn't fall at the end when he's being hit four times, but that's an effect. It's in slow motion to accentuate the hits.
5. You can't criticise him for not moving parts which shouldn't be moved in the sequence that he is attempting. Admitedly, there is little body movement, but there are only a few places where the body actually needs to be moved. The only really stiff bits which shouldn't be are the landings.

He cannot possibly be lower than med/high beginner.


It's good that you justify your responses. However:

The animation lacked movements.
The movements there were, were extremely stiff.
The movements lacked easing.
The only time you see easing is when easing, or in this case, the sliding of the stickfigures, is applied to the entire figure. This does not count as actual easing because easing needs to be applied to the right parts at the right time. Anyone, like ANYONE, knows how to move an entire figure a bit less every single frame to emulate what we call 'easing.' The difficulty of easing is that it has to be applied properly. Plus, the easing was applied too lightly; it ought to be heavier.

The movements were not smooth, but mostly because their weren't that many movements to view.
Physics were bad because of the improper application of easing.

Therefore it cannot be any higher than med beginner, at the most.
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May 10, 2009 6:32 PM #416329
No, Zed. You have different degrees of low beginner. He is one, there were no physics, the reactions all sucked, everything was stiff, and all body parts should be moved. When you jump, do you only move your legs?

As Omega said.

This is low beginner too:
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May 10, 2009 7:18 PM #416351
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No, Zed. You have different degrees of low beginner. He is one, there were no physics, the reactions all sucked, everything was stiff, and all body parts should be moved. When you jump, do you only move your legs?

As Omega said.

This is low beginner too:
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Surely a more reasonable system would be one where you are low beginner if you ******* up everything, a med beginner if you **** up just one or two things, and a high beginner if nothing is ****ed up but a few things aren't quite what they should have been/were intended to be.
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May 10, 2009 7:38 PM #416365
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Surely a more reasonable system would be one where you are low beginner if you ******* up everything, a med beginner if you **** up just one or two things, and a high beginner if nothing is ****ed up but a few things aren't quite what they should have been/were intended to be.


I don't think I've ever seen you swear, Zed.
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