Is Humanity Evil?

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Feb 14, 2010 8:06 PM #546891
Okay first off. 2-D your losing it man, that was the worst trolling ever. Second Scared, How is it Not fact? A lot of our presidents died, due to hate toward them because there doing something good,maybe wrong or just because people don't like them. Third Automan, Hurting some one else just go get power, killing some one over a quarrel over who loves that girl. Though you are right and wrong at the same time, some people wouldn't hurt people to get fame and power. but people still have evil intent based on what good and evil define. so either way my statement is legit.

Now, As an example. Why have there been so many killings over the years in the United States? because of Instinct to defend one self, maybe, Because they can? More then likely. Now if you figure, all those deaths because of gang war, people killing each other over the stuff they want. Yes i am not counting the deaths, because they are old or get hit by a car or something like that. Now count that all up how can you say humanity is not evil. Defined by good and wrong, Killing some one over a city block is wrong. Stealing things from people is wrong by definition. Now tell me can you say Humanity is not evil.
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Feb 14, 2010 8:33 PM #546896
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Okay first off. 2-D your losing it man, that was the worst trolling ever.
Leave it alone.
Second Scared, How is it Not fact? A lot of our presidents died, due to hate toward them because there doing something good,maybe wrong or just because people don't like them.
Look, the presidents have been killed because someone didn't believe that what they were doing was right. Now pay attention, every president we have ever had has had someone, practically a huge ass amount of people, disagree with what they're doing. And yet only 4 out of all 44 presidents we have had has ever been killed.
Third Automan, Hurting some one else just go get power, killing some one over a quarrel over who loves that girl. Though you are right and wrong at the same time, some people wouldn't hurt people to get fame and power. but people still have evil intent based on what good and evil define. so either way my statement is legit.
Repeating what my last post said, almost no person does this. Yes people fight for jobs and such, but no one pulls the shit that you're trying to give an example of. You're just simply thinking in the worst of humanity and are to stubborn to see it any other way.

Now, As an example. Why have there been so many killings over the years in the United States? because of Instinct to defend one self, maybe, Because they can? More then likely.
You are saying that people are killing other just because they can. No. You are very much wrong on that. Murders are happening because of reasons. Maybe someone got divorced and now they're pissed. Or a person hurt someone they knew. I'm not saying it's right, not at all. But what I am saying is that murders happen for reasons. They don't happen just because someone thought they were He-Man and shouted, "I HAVE THE POWER!"
Now if you figure, all those deaths because of gang war, people killing each other over the stuff they want. Yes i am not counting the deaths, because they are old or get hit by a car or something like that. Now count that all up how can you say humanity is not evil.
Because practically 98% of all deaths are caused by accident or natural causes.
Defined by good and wrong, Killing some one over a city block is wrong.
No one does this.
Stealing things from people is wrong by definition.
Stealing is a common crime by those who can't afford enough to buy it. Once again though, I'm not saying this is okay.
Now tell me can you say Humanity is not evil.
I can. Humanity is not evil.


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Feb 14, 2010 10:30 PM #546928
Really? Let's see Abraham Lincoln was killed by some one because they disagreed with him. That means that what i'm saying is true. and that's a lie into the fullest extent. people have died over jobs, people have died over a girl.

people kill because they can Great example, Richard Trenton, He killed people because he could. and you blatantly deny any of it? Your in your own little world there. Now say a family was in the fire. what would be the first thing a person would do when they were trapped in a fire. save there family not likely, more then likely he will save his own ass. Now i'm not say that's 100% true. but it is a lot of the time
98% is natural causes that's a lie. the Mafia get's rid of people all the time. people kill for things some for no reason. so what you say is a misconception.

Now there are people who kill over city blocks, it's called gang wars so yes people do it.

So if you say it's not okay then it's wrong which makes Humanity have evil intent, or well the ones that do steal.

Now figure, a girl gets raped. a lot of the time people turn a blind eye to it. now tell me how is that not evil. if humanity was not evil we would be helping one another, but no were not we are leaving poor people on the streets while going on with our lives. We go to war over oil or some other stupid reason(some of the time). we make fun of people to make our selves feel better we are selfish self absorbed. Tell me how is none of this is evil intent.
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Feb 14, 2010 10:33 PM #546930
Hannibal Lecter was a fictional character...
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Feb 14, 2010 10:38 PM #546932
There i made it better i forgot about him being fake had a brain fart there.
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Feb 15, 2010 12:04 AM #546962
You're missing the point. So what if some people kill for their own gain? Animals kill other animals to take food for greed, and are they evil? No. Besides, even if 99% of the world were like this (which they're not), that wouldn't make humanity evil, it would make some of humanity evil.

Also, I don't think killing someone to get their money is evil. Respond.
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Feb 15, 2010 12:12 AM #546971
by definition good and evil killing some one for greed is evil. Animals kill for food nothing else, they do it for there family and pack not for greed. and killing some one for money is evil with evil intent.

Also how is that missing the point the point of this thread is if humanity is evil. i have undoubtedly prove that it is. you can continue to believe that humanity is no where close to evil. i wont force you but humanity is evil
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Feb 15, 2010 12:21 AM #546974
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Really? Let's see Abraham Lincoln was killed by some one because they disagreed with him. That means that what i'm saying is true. and that's a lie into the fullest extent.
It's good to see you completely ignored what I stated before hand.

people have died over jobs, people have died over a girl.
You're making it sound like this is common. This rarely happens.
people kill because they can Great example, Richard Trenton, He killed people because he could. and you blatantly deny any of it?
Oh my god, someone did it once! That must mean so does everyone else!
Your in your own little world there.
How can I if practically everyone besides 3 other people agree with me?
Now say a family was in the fire. what would be the first thing a person would do when they were trapped in a fire. save there family not likely, more then likely he will save his own ass. Now i'm not say that's 100% true. but it is a lot of the time
Once again, this is just you expecting the worst of humanity. Also if you haven't noticed, there's a thing called firefighters. You know, the people who volunteer to save people from fires?
98% is natural causes that's a lie. the Mafia get's rid of people all the time. people kill for things some for no reason. so what you say is a misconception.
Now there are people who kill over city blocks, it's called gang wars so yes people do it.
You watch way too many movies.
So if you say it's not okay then it's wrong which makes Humanity have evil intent, or well the ones that do steal.
Just more of your ignorance.
Now figure, a girl gets raped. a lot of the time people turn a blind eye to it.
Not true.
now tell me how is that not evil. if humanity was not evil we would be helping one another, but no were not we are leaving poor people on the streets while going on with our lives.
Yeah, it's not like we just donated millions of dollars to Haiti.
We go to war over oil or some other stupid reason(some of the time).
War is stupid I agree. But war is a stupid way to peace.
we make fun of people to make our selves feel better we are selfish self absorbed.
That's just plain human nature. It's not evil at all.
Tell me how is none of this is evil intent.


Same thing as last time.
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Feb 15, 2010 12:33 AM #546982
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by definition good and evil killing some one for greed is evil.

Do you agree morals are subjective rather than objective? Then you agree that there IS no definition for evil, it is how you see it. I could say "killing someone for greed is not evil", that would be, by my definition, not evil. I don't agree with that, I'm just saying you can't state morals as objective.

Animals kill for food nothing else, they do it for there family and pack not for greed. and killing some one for money is evil with evil intent.

If there is a carcass, and there are 2 cayote's near it, even if neither of them need that carcass it's possible that they will fight over it. It's their instinct, they are driven by desire at that point. I'm not defending the notion of killing for greed, I'm just saying it's not as objective and black and white as you see it.

Also how is that missing the point the point of this thread is if humanity is evil. i have undoubtedly prove that it is. you can continue to believe that humanity is no where close to evil. i wont force you but humanity is evil

No, you haven't proven that humanity is evil. All you've shown is that SOME of humanity is evil BY YOUR STANDARDS. There are many grey areas, and even if theres 0.000001% of the population that isn't evil, that in effect makes humanity as a whole not fully evil.
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Feb 15, 2010 12:36 AM #546983
I'm on Automation's side by far.

You go bro.
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Feb 15, 2010 12:37 AM #546985
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Do you agree morals are subjective rather than objective?


A lot of people would disagree with that.
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Feb 15, 2010 12:38 AM #546986
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A lot of people would disagree with that.

Those people are stupid and I would take great pleasure in removing them from society :)
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Feb 15, 2010 12:46 AM #546991
If you figure your right evil is based by morals, so if we go by things that are frowned upon humanity is evil. we ruin the land we live on we take thing for granted. and yes i have proven that humanity is evil and thank you for proving my point you just proved to me you would hurt some on to prove something. and that's greed
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Feb 15, 2010 1:36 AM #547026
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If you figure your right evil is based by morals, so if we go by things that are frowned upon humanity is evil.

Who defines what is "frowned upon"? You're selfish. You can't make everyone believe the same that you do. "HURTING IS BAD, EVERYBODY SHOULD THINK SO. HURTING IS EVIL". I dislike it, but you can't say that everybody should think the same. People have different morals, so people will have different views on what is evil.

we ruin the land we live on we take thing for granted.

a) not everyone does that.
b) some people may find that morally acceptable and not evil.

and yes i have proven that humanity is evil and thank you for proving my point you just proved to me you would hurt some on to prove something. and that's greed

I was joking when I said about killing those people, and thank you for proving my point by yet again assuming that YOUR morals are correct and should be followed by everyone. You remind me of a fundamentalist Catholic.
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Feb 15, 2010 4:51 AM #547071
Humanity is not really evil, rather we are ignorant and unaware of what we do and we don't realize it til it's too late. We are also sometimes careless of what we do and that's what makes society worse. Also we are sometimes reckless, thinking that what we do can benefit for the greater good but then turns out to be a total disaster. Everything really depends on what we do that grants the title of "evil" or "good". But then again it's all based on opinions.