Do you think they should ban certain video games for people under the age of 18?

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Feb 27, 2012 8:45 PM #609197
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That the stupidest thing I've ever heard. If you're arguing about whether or not you SHOULD have a system that already exists, why not discuss why it's there in the first place and express why you disagree/agree, rather than what people are doing now, which is wane intellectual about hypothetical situations that make no sense.


Uhh, well first of all it's not an international system, so if you're just talking about the ESRB it doesn't apply to any non-American members of this forum, which we have plenty of. Keeping the debate focused on the concept of banning games in a general sense makes it more accessible to them.

But sure, let's do that, since my suggestion was apparently fucking retarded. Ratings boards were established after graphics became capable of depicting violence relatively realistically. The federal government threatened to intervene if the industry didn't self-regulate itself, so several ratings boards were created throughout the next year, eventually leading to the ESRB which became the national standard for rating games... so, that's why it exists. The government wanted a system in place, so one was made. That's not really something we can agree or disagree with.

As far as their reasoning for establishing it in the first place, they don't really matter to someone presenting an argument like mine. If someone thinks they should be banned, they're more than welcome to list the reasons why the system already exists, and we'll discuss them, but until someone does that I think I'm allowed to present an argument that isn't based off of them.

The medium's regulation has some serious implications about the perceived susceptibility of people when exposed to simulated violence, almost to the point of implied vulnerability, as if these games can turn innocent, bright eyed kids into mass-murdering psychopaths just through the act of playing them. Games have been used as scapegoats to blame violence on when no other viable reason could be found, as if there even needs to be one. How do these come up if we're only talking about ratings boards?

The things that can be discussed relating to those matters have nothing to do with the system that already exists. I didn't say we shouldn't talk about it at all, I only offered a reason for why it hasn't been mentioned yet: there's a lot more to discuss about the issue. Your insistence that the debate should center around that which doesn't even consider the moral or psychological aspects of the discussion is, in my opinion, a lot more fucking stupid than what I said.
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Mar 23, 2012 11:03 PM #620588
I fucking love you people. I can always count on you for a good laugh
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Mar 23, 2012 11:25 PM #620599
If you ban games, it'll be pirated. Just like drugs... Its banned but does'nt mean its not there. Its smuggled everywhere even now as we speak of it. Don't ban games, it won't help.
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Mar 24, 2012 12:22 AM #620614
Might as well ban movies, books and music along with it.
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Mar 24, 2012 1:50 AM #620627
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If you ban games, it'll be pirated. Just like drugs... Its banned but does'nt mean its not there. Its smuggled everywhere even now as we speak of it. Don't ban games, it won't help.

Did you read anything besides the thread's title?
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Mar 24, 2012 2:02 AM #620633
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Did you read anything besides the thread's title?


Honestly, I tried. But as soon I saw the acusing and abusing, I decided to just post what I could make out of the title.
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Mar 24, 2012 2:35 PM #620894
You are a terrible debater.
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Mar 25, 2012 5:48 AM #621333
I also agree with age ratings for video games, movies, music, etc... However the government shouldn't control who gets to play video games. It's the parents' decision to let their children play violent video galmes not the governments' decision
As for incidents Altair listed. Those are usually exceptions. Will every kid shoot his parents after.playing Grand Theft.Auto?
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Mar 25, 2012 5:59 AM #621342
lol.
"Well, that kid played games! That made him kill people! Ban video games!"

"Well, that kid jacked off! That made him kill people! Ban Jacking Off!"

that argument can be applied to anything.

As for the rating system, it's perfectly fine the way it is. A 10 year old won't be playing GTA unless some dumbfuck gives it to him.
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Mar 25, 2012 7:04 AM #621364
but he will be playing calla dooty
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Mar 26, 2012 12:52 AM #621945
They shouldn't make video games for over 18 because the parents could easily make the decision and eventually people would find a way to sneak certain games into their own hands
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Mar 26, 2012 7:00 AM #622128
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They shouldn't make video games for over 18 because the parents could easily make the decision and eventually people would find a way to sneak certain games into their own hands


while we're at it, we might as well have no adult mediums in order to PROTECT THE CHILDREN
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Mar 28, 2012 12:41 AM #623199
Obviously not because then everyone would find a way to sneak a video game that is over aged
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Mar 28, 2012 1:22 AM #623215
That's an argument over whether it would be effective, not whether they should or shouldn't.
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Mar 28, 2012 1:52 AM #623224
yeah, if we made decisions on if someone would break the new law or not we wouldnt have as many laws