Quote from MirrorsN'MirrorI think we should put a hold on the mods and give the members of stickpage there ranks before picking out mods.
What the hell do you mean by ranks?
The Stickpage FluidAnims Treaty Zone
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Feb 2, 2012 12:55 AM #585610
What the hell do you mean by ranks?
Feb 2, 2012 12:56 AM #585613
Don't try to understand anything MirrorsN'Mirror says. It LOOKS like he's speaking English, but it's not.
Feb 2, 2012 1:01 AM #585622
Quote from JeffI don't know if that's the way it's going to be done. Really, Stone's going to be looking for people to help him keep the forum up to spec, and not people who are going to fight him or argue with him on decisions he makes. That's not to say it's his way or the highway, I know from personal experience that if he wants something to happen that isn't really a good move or doesn't make sense, he will listen to reason. Ultimately, however, he will have the final say on things. I'm really referring to previous mods who might say, "No. That's not how we do things around here." And proceed to unban someone who was just banned, or something along those lines. Our goal isn't really to come in and fuck shit up for the hell of it, but rather to make Stickpage more of an animator- and user-friendly place like Fluidanims was, which may include some changes to rules or a mentality shift.
I don't want you guys to get the wrong idea from this post, however. I feel like I may not be explaining things well enough and that my post may be misinterpreted to mean something differently. I personally have vouched for a number of SP members to become mods. I just don't think it's very diplomatic or fair to push for mods from the existing community under the mentality that they were here already and thus they know best. I could argue that because our community is joining up it makes more sense to have mods from FA come in because they already know how to handle our members. I COULD argue that, but I'm not, because the best idea is to have mods from both communities working together to come to that middle-ground faster. Having more existing SP members as mods would put an unfair strain on the relationship between the merging communities, because existing members know how THEY like things done, but that might not be how they SHOULD be done according to stone and FA moderators. This could lead to some pretty nasty fall out.
As I said, what if we just have an even number of FA mods and SP mods?
Both Index and I are pretty reasonable, and I dare say that none of the worries you have about Stickpage moderators will come true. We understand that there's now a lot more active FA members around here than there are SP members, and we know that you come from a forum that's entirely different than this one is. We'd just be good additions to the team that we worked hard to join in the first place, and Index has already proved to the administrators that he's a good moderator. Otherwise, they wouldn't have made him a mod in the first place.
Feb 2, 2012 1:03 AM #585625
You do realize what this means? No more banning people for not liking them. Now you got to be professional mods.
Feb 2, 2012 1:07 AM #585629
christianEater, first of all are you a mod, and second you cute as fuck, if thats you
Feb 2, 2012 1:09 AM #585632
Quote from stickflashanimatorchristianEater, first of all are you a mod, and second you cute as fuck, if thats you
No I'm not a mod. lol. search 2ne1 on youtube and you'll see who that is.
Feb 2, 2012 1:19 AM #585654
Quote from JeffI don't know if that's the way it's going to be done. Really, Stone's going to be looking for people to help him keep the forum up to spec, and not people who are going to fight him or argue with him on decisions he makes. That's not to say it's his way or the highway, I know from personal experience that if he wants something to happen that isn't really a good move or doesn't make sense, he will listen to reason. Ultimately, however, he will have the final say on things. I'm really referring to previous mods who might say, "No. That's not how we do things around here." And proceed to unban someone who was just banned, or something along those lines. Our goal isn't really to come in and fuck shit up for the hell of it, but rather to make Stickpage more of an animator- and user-friendly place like Fluidanims was, which may include some changes to rules or a mentality shift.
I don't want you guys to get the wrong idea from this post, however. I feel like I may not be explaining things well enough and that my post may be misinterpreted to mean something differently. I personally have vouched for a number of SP members to become mods. I just don't think it's very diplomatic or fair to push for mods from the existing community under the mentality that they were here already and thus they know best. I could argue that because our community is joining up it makes more sense to have mods from FA come in because they already know how to handle our members. I COULD argue that, but I'm not, because the best idea is to have mods from both communities working together to come to that middle-ground faster. Having more existing SP members as mods would put an unfair strain on the relationship between the merging communities, because existing members know how THEY like things done, but that might not be how they SHOULD be done according to stone and FA moderators. This could lead to some pretty nasty fall out.
Personally, I want to become a mod because the forums have had shit smeared all over them lately, but if there were only FA mods, I'd feel really uncomfortable and disregarded. I'd never do something hostile as a mod like unbanning someone without permission— an important part of being a moderator is communication with the rest of the team. We have a few sections for that which you can probably see. Otherwise I'd settle disagreements about mod policies through private messages. I know the stickpage members much better than the FA mods do, obviously, so wouldn't it make sense for me (plus Devour) to be giving input? I'm sure the regular members would like SOME representation from their side too.
I've had plenty of opportunities to abuse power, make a hostile move, and even fuck over the forum, but it's always been a clear choice for me not to. I've argued/debated with CJ through private messages over our differences in how we think moderation should be handled. I've also been an admin and had the ability to do pretty much whatever I wanted, but chose to keep things steady and normal. I've had a bold dick move made against me by another mod, where he reversed a decision I made without permission/discussion, and I chose to try debating it rather than redoing it and possibly abusing my powers. I've had members debate me over disciplinary actions they didn't agree with, and have always asked people how I should change my moderation.
Also, maybe I should mention that I was chosen to become a moderator because of my less-strict views. While I wouldn't make a really bold move as a mod myself, I wouldn't randomly undo someone else's bold move instead of trying to convince him to undo it himself. That's what would happen if we disagreed, and I'm sure Devour would be similar.
This probably sounds like a mod application, but whatever, I can just copy parts of this if Stone ever opens up applications.
Feb 2, 2012 1:24 AM #585661
cristianEater, your famous cool, umm if you wanna contact me thatll be like 1000 $
Feb 2, 2012 1:24 AM #585664
Quote from JeffDon't try to understand anything MirrorsN'Mirror says. It LOOKS like he's speaking English, but it's not.
Lol'd
Quote from ChristianEaterYou do realize what this means? No more banning people for not liking them. Now you got to be professional mods.
This was my main concern with Index. That he would get butthurt about something and just ban someone. Im not too worried about him now though, i dont think i was active much when he was a mod.
Feb 2, 2012 1:26 AM #585669
Quote from Ashlander
This was my main concern with Index. That he would get butthurt about something and just ban someone. Im not too worried about him now though, i dont think i was active much when he was a mod.
Never done that before. In fact, I can't recall ever banning anyone with over 500 posts... I use infractions.
I mostly tried to get people unbanned.
Feb 2, 2012 1:29 AM #585676
Quote from stickflashanimatorcristianEater, your famous cool, umm if you wanna contact me thatll be like 1000 $
You gotta pay me, what you talking about?
Feb 2, 2012 1:32 AM #585686
If my opinion matters I am DEFINITELY game for Index being a mod. I haven't seen him react with any hostility towards any of the FA members and he has a thorough understanding of how SP is run. He would provide insight to the FA mods on how to deal with others of the SP community. Also, he just seems like a nice guy and a good mod, he seems to understand what Stone is trying to do and I think he would be a great addition personally.
Of course, I may only be seeing what is on the surface, but from what I have seen from him tells me that I wouldn't mind him being a mod.
Of course, I may only be seeing what is on the surface, but from what I have seen from him tells me that I wouldn't mind him being a mod.
Feb 2, 2012 1:35 AM #585691
can you guys animate eh
Feb 2, 2012 1:37 AM #585694
I'm pretty excited about all this; it's definitely a good idea. This might be a stupid question, but where does CrazyJay fit into all of this? Was he consulted at all? Oh, and who's Jeff? Never seen him around here before.
Oh, and as far as mods go, my preference is to have Index resume his former position, because I think he did a good job. Devour just knows this forum really well, and he was quite an effective mod before the reset.
Oh, and as far as mods go, my preference is to have Index resume his former position, because I think he did a good job. Devour just knows this forum really well, and he was quite an effective mod before the reset.
Feb 2, 2012 1:38 AM #585695
Quote from MirrorsN'Mirrorcan you guys animate eh
you know they could moderate the sections that don't have to do with animation
or shit, just don't do anything involved with animation. just moderate.