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I disagree. :o

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1. You will not Spam

2. You will not Flame

3. You will not Troll

4. You will not Advertise

5. You will not post goodbye or welcome back threads. They will be automatically deleted.

6. You will not be counter productive

7. You will not complain about disciplinary actions

8. You will not post long messenger (msn,aim,yahoo,gmail) conversations

9. Your signatures will be kept to 500x150 dimension maximum

10. You will not include inappropriate content in your signature or posts such as pornographic images or open text links to other forums or sites other then hosting accounts.

11. You will respect your fellow members. We work off the Golden Rule here!

12. You will NOT make second accounts for any reason other than to discuss a previous ban with a staff member. Multiple accounts are regarded as a form of forum and portal abuse.

13: You may post forum games unless the moderating team or admins can tell that you haven't put thought or effort into making it up.

14. If you are not contributing to Stickpage in a positive capacity then you are not welcome on Stickpage.com/Stickpageportal.com.

How does knowing the community affect any moderation decisions in regards to these rules (apart from knowing that a few of them are retarded, which comes from common sense, not community knowledge in any case)?

or rather, in what way do you think a long time sp member is a better mod than the newly arrived fa members, especially considering this is no longer the community that hypothetical sp member knew, but rather a new community made from both the old communities? Since this is no longer the old sp community, nor the fa community, are no members eligible for modship until time has passed and this new community has been firmly established?

Many times, there have been members that are disruptive to the community without explicitly breaking any of those rules. When some of those rules are broken, they can be broken to many degrees— especially flaming and trolling. The answers aren't always obvious, and there are disagreements between moderators a lot of the time. If all moderators had to do was follow simple guidelines like robots, then every moderator we've had would be the same. We know for a fact that each stickpage moderator has been completely unique in the way they handle things. On top of that, you have to consider how the community feels about their moderator. Would you rather have someone you don't know in charge of you, instead of someone you're familiar and friendly with?

And there aren't any new members who are as active and reliable as many of the older and more dedicated members. We don't want a moderator who just gets tired of their position, or cares so little about the forum that they decide to entertain themselves by going on a deleting spree. You need to know the member before entrusting something to them, or there is no reason at all to make them a moderator.

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or rather, in what way do you think a long time sp member is a better mod than the newly arrived fa members, especially considering this is no longer the community that hypothetical sp member knew, but rather a new community made from both the old communities? Since this is no longer the old sp community, nor the fa community, are no members eligible for modship until time has passed and this new community has been firmly established?

There are already multiple moderators from FA that are going to be transferred over without an application, in addition to stone and Jeff who are active and can act as moderators. Now, since there are going to be moderators from FA here, I think you would agree that it makes sense to have at least one moderator from stickpage working with them. A moderator from stickpage would be able to collaborate on a team with the FA moderators, and make decisions together with their combined knowledge. A moderator shouldn't act on solely their own will when it comes to decisions where you have to know the community. The moderator team is a team.

(edit: excuse the double post, I was like oh fuck after clicking reply. I'm think I'm used to double posting and then merging.)

alright, we're almost on the same page then it seems. I think the best solution is to have moderators from both camps. I thought you were arguing for having no fa members as mods at all. my mistake.

It also helps to know your surrounding people as a mod. Since FA and SP are different communities and Most/ALL of FA is moving here, To have FA mods who understand how FA members act and SP mods to know how SP members work will help a lot. Some spam isn't worth ban hammer or warning. A mod from FA could easily count index's double post as a warning since FA had a high restriction against double post. But also SP may be more lenient on double posting. It helps to have mods from both sides.

Hmm, I made this as a second account way back when name changes were not being dealt with. Asked a mod, mod said make new account. Done and sold.

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It also helps to know your surrounding people as a mod. Since FA and SP are different communities and Most/ALL of FA is moving here, To have FA mods who understand how FA members act and SP mods to know how SP members work will help a lot. Some spam isn't worth ban hammer or warning. A mod from FA could easily count index's double post as a warning since FA had a high restriction against double post. But also SP may be more lenient on double posting. It helps to have mods from both sides.

Yeah, sometimes people post 5 times in a row just as a joke and no one really cares. I don't think double posting is a very bad thing unless you're a repeat offender who does it to boost post count/spam.

This should go into the debate forum.

It seems like too much work for a debate. And people get a bit out of hand when you debate about them. " I believe on sp members should be mods because of blah blah blah" then a FA member takes it to "the heart" and starts raging, so the debate becomes some place filled with useless ignorant post. A lot of FA members are a bit touchy when it comes to the community xD

i dont want to be a mod anymore, but i want the powers.. (just dont want the responsibility lol)

though being a mod keeps me unbanned.. loolol

OK so a lot has changed since last I've visited.. It seems strange that the whole established system would be wiped clean because it was working as I recall. On a side note: It seems ironic that Zed would have to reapply if he wanted a lesser job.

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OK so a lot has changed since last I've visited.. It seems strange that the whole established system would be wiped clean because it was working as I recall. On a side note: It seems ironic that Zed would have to reapply if he wanted a lesser job.

Haha, lol.

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i dont want to be a mod anymore, but i want the powers.. (just dont want the responsibility lol)

though being a mod keeps me unbanned.. loolol

God, I'm glad I came here after you were "stripped" of your mod powers.

Since I don't know what to answer on "How much time currently spent on SP" and "Join date" (because of the hacking), I just won't send stone another useless e-mail.
Btw, why are the SP members (before the merge) using "knowing the site better" as an argument? Obviously, there are more FA members here now, so members of FA are more suitable for the mod application (at least, based on the argument "knowing the site better").