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Is Exilement going to quit again when the Awards are over?

(yes, im asking no one in particular, or Exilement in the third person)

no?

I can't tell if that was a serious or a sarcastic question lol.

Camilaaa!
Get on irccc

Okok It'll be from my phone tho, I was at classes.

I don't speak for anyone when I say this, but don't you guys think that the theme for the BSE round 2 looks a little bit...difficult? At best, denying entries on the fly is deterring everyone's ability to submit. We shouldn't be pre-empting the entries and saying which one sucks and is just a flat automatic 1. It's a violation of expectations that we have on the participants, which to them is just an event for their own entertainment.

Thoughts?

Oh and when I say difficult I mean conceptually and "creatively", not technically. (although as I recall the first round of a previous BSE was a wind tunnel and that was...weird)



Also, why is Yun the only dethroned chancellor? Did he voluntarily ask for it when he stepped down from BSE as well?

Yun told me he didn't want to be a chancellor anymore, so he's off.

Edit: I'll post this in tue BSE thread as well.

So I'm gonna write what I was trying to explain to ACbeam yesterday.

I know the element is hard, I know that nothing like this has been done before, and of course it was going to be a challange, I knew that there may be a lack of entries because of this, but here is my opinion on what and why am I planning some things for the BSE. I kinda stopped making the last vesion of BSE, not because it was boring, the elements were fantastic and the combo too, I just noticed a repetitive loop in each round, same pro animators winning, no hard conecpt to apply, scores were only to laugh at someone else's face and say "I got a higher score than you", I realised that the scores prooved... absolutely nothing, really, what was the point of it?, at the end the guy who made more bse rounds would win, and only if you make like... 6-7 rounds out of the 10 that the BSE had, you could say:"yeah, I did learn something important to improve my animation skills".

Now that I had the honor to host this event, I took it seriously, I thought really deep about this competition and I wanted to do something new, I didn't want it to be repetitive, I didn't want to make it easy, I wanted each round to be a true challange for any animator that joins the competition, this is why I focused more on thinking in ways to help others improve by pushing their limits, you all saw the civil war at round 1 because of the scores. When actually the CnC from Arch-Angel was the most amazing thing a judge has ever done for this event, this represents what I'm talking about, everyone is used to have high scores and most of them completely ignored the CnC, for the ones who actually understood the point of this round, they were greatful and they understood why did they get that score and what did they do wrong in the animation and what do they have to change for future animations.

For this round, I wanted to test their creativity and patience, is a hard element and it has never been done before, I know that, but nowadays most of the animators give up on their projects because they "lack of ideas" or "I thought it was going to be easier" or "Is not fun to animate it anymore" and stuff like that, this round was aiming at that weakness, the ability to accept a challange, finish your animation, try something new, and the ability to make something hard to animate a fun activity.

And that's what I want to do, I want each round to be focused in some weakness that most of animators are facing these days, procrastination, creativity, fluid combos, lazyness, be open for challanges, and all of that. I don't give a snap about the amount of entries or the scores, at the end the one who makes more rounds wins the overall prize, I just want to push everyone's limits with these rounds and help them to improve as much as I can, because even if you make only 1 round, I'm sure you'll learn more than 1 thing to improve your animations' quality.

Now if most of you agree on that I should keep things as they were before, alright then I have no problem seriously. But I really wanted this to be something completely new and most importantly an opportunity to improve in every way. To make this BSE fun is up to everyone's actions, I can't tell them to "have fun" if they don't want to, so whatever the element is, is up to you to make it a fun time or not. I hope you all understood my point and intentions (even if my grammar sucks) ♥.

Oh I totally get your means to revolutionize BSE Cami...but that's not what I'm talking about.

I'm talking about the fact that the theme for round 2 appears to be something of a round 5 in terms of difficulty. It's the scaling that bothers me. I can appreciate the jetpack, but then suddenly people get this (and not thoroughly explained in the beginning, causing some confusion at that) "Hot Surface" theme and now they're probably thinking "It's only going to get harder from here." There are more effective ways to win over a populace of kids who already think that the theme is not only hard, but beyond their comprehension. And making fiendishly challenging themes early-game is not the way. Yes, it has never been done before but that doesn't mean you have to do it now.

You'll notice last year's BSE's difficulty was very natural and gradual in not only the combo but the theme. I think that was the major reason why fewer competitors submitted each round, not because they felt underwhelmed by the Pro's. And this is why there are only 3 legitimate entries thus far imo...

And this brings me to my original plea for everyone to discuss their thoughts on this surprise. Not just you, Cami. I wanna hear what everyone thinks. Does stone even know? It's just that, it appears you decided to 'change things for the better' without ever bringing it up here to begin with and that because it's already happening we're all just suppose to accept and roll with it. While I wouldn't go so far as to be butthurt like Yun, I kinda have to agree with a few of his points.

You coulda at least said in the beginning of Round 1 that things were going to be different and that the criteria for judging would strictly be modified. You coulda appeared more open and asked to mentor some peeps who were having a hard time but wanted to finish (because at this rate they are just going to give up). No, you just decided to drop this bomb out of nowhere and now people are being blindsided by how different it is. Intentions are pure but the (ahem) execution is a bit rough.


EDIT: Well, it seems like you've won the crowd's trust with your speech in the BSE thread. I wonder though how many noobs you've alienated from your crusade and whether or not that was worth it in the end. Remember, that this was preventable. This speech should've come up in the very beginning of the BSE, instead of right now when it's just a form of damage control.

Well, the special element for round 2 was chosen by me and Tsang, the combo was made by Tsang, and I talked to him these ideas to him before applying them I've also asked oxob a few things about BSE and stuff so it wasn't like "Oh I'm just gonna change everything we know and do whatever the hell I want". Yes I should've told everyone about this at the begining of the event and I accept that mistake. I don't know why Tsang hasn't posted anything anywhere yet tho.

I was also thinking in the fact that I'll host only 5 rounds of BSE, maybe Tsang can do the "easy" special elements or something like that.

And I've tried to contact stone and get him up to date on BSE stuff but... he didn't answer to me on IRC xD. I hope he reads this tho.

Is something going on behind the scenes?

Suddenly posting in the trash bin is possible!

I talked to stone about what I said a while ago, about how I think it would be easier for sectional mods to have power over the the Trash Can.

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I talked to stone about what I said a while ago, about how I think it would be easier for sectional mods to have power over the the Trash Can.

You've already asked about this if I recall correctly, and I think it would be REALLY useful for us if we ever make a mistake or want to handle situations like this.

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You've already asked about this if I recall correctly, and I think it would be REALLY useful for us if we ever make a mistake or want to handle situations like this.

That's why I said "a while ago", and that's the sole reason I asked for it.

Yeah but how is it that even guitarii can post in the bin!