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Apr 25, 2008 2:29 PM #123146
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Wrong! Thats quite silly to say , you cant defeat a strong guy with just will , with will you will have bravery to fight him even knowing him better , but without strength you cant do much. A good combo is a Smart + Strength + Will , since you have to be smart in a fight , yes you do , of course you can go all "bum's rush" but a smart person will hit a stronger persons weak point (not the nuts ,i mean thats the lowest of low) , without strength you cant even affect him. And also using strong limbs vs weak points is very effective.


This is why you are a prideful idiot who will die in a street fight.
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Apr 25, 2008 3:03 PM #123160
As low as you can go Jeremy , i mean come on there are tons of dirty tricks , but come on hitting a man in his nuts is like ... as low as you can go. And no I wont die in a street fight , I on the other hand can fight without such tricks , poor you then , if you cant.
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Apr 25, 2008 3:16 PM #123169
There is no such thing as a dirty trick when you need to survive, or you are in mortal danger.

Leave your pride out of fights.
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Apr 25, 2008 3:19 PM #123173
Ha , lol you mean i will die if i don't hit someone in the nuts , what the hell maybe I hit him in the nuts , he gets even more angry and will kill me slowly. Seriously even when fighting for your life there are also other things to do, but hitting in the nuts ...
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Apr 25, 2008 3:30 PM #123182
-_-'
*facepalm*
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Apr 25, 2008 3:59 PM #123191
This guy watches too much DBZ. Let's just pretend he is not here.
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Apr 25, 2008 5:44 PM #123226
1. I have never watched DBZ in my life
2. You are just being a-holes i mean who the hell debates like that?

And if you are so bad at fighting that you cant do anything but hit someone in the nuts when your start to get scared , the don't put down those who dont. Gratz on being a-holes and nothing more.
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Apr 25, 2008 6:00 PM #123237
I'd back Storm up in saying that in an honorable fight, low blows wouldn't be nessesary.
However, in a Street fight, if it puts them on the ground, I'll do it.

Stop getting your panties in a bunch, folks.
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Apr 25, 2008 8:37 PM #123292
HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIYAHHHH!




It had to be done.
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Apr 25, 2008 8:49 PM #123299
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Ha , lol you mean i will die if i don't hit someone in the nuts , what the hell maybe I hit him in the nuts , he gets even more angry and will kill me slowly. Seriously even when fighting for your life there are also other things to do, but hitting in the nuts ...

You probably wouldn't be able to. Men tend to grow protective of their penis. Alot of men if they see so much of as a flicker of movement heading in that direction they drop low and block that area. Nerves spots such as the shins, or the "funny bone" are much better targets because they can still put him out for a little less time than a solid hit to the nut sac would. But their easier to hit and they an only block one at a time. So go for the shins first, then once he learns what you're doing fake towards the shins and go for the funny bone, or if you're good at faking go for the nuts.

@whoever said that fat people people would be slow and wouldn't run fast;

Not all fat people are like that. As I said before I have a friend who weighs about 300 pounds. He is fast and his punches hurt. He has a strong grip so its hard to escape him. Sure you could run farther and longer than him but you wouldn't be able to get to a point where the run would do you good. He would keep you by him. Fat people are used to their weight so they know how to get by. Kind of how alot of people with paralyzed legs know how to get up and down steps in a wheel chair by themselves. They would know how to keep you by them, by backing you into a corner or against a wall. You may not always have room to run or dodge. I've fought my 300 pound friend dozens of time. [friendly fights] I personally can't find a way to beat him because I don't have enough body weight to throw at him. I could take him down with some jui jitsu techniques [a self defense martial art] but not with Tae Kwon Do [a sports martial art.]

@ the guy who said there was a match between a lightweight and heavy weight;

I never said it was impossible to beat a heavy weight when you're light weight. But the odds were in the heavy weights favor. Even if there is a 1 in a million chance [not saying the fight was 1 in a million] its still possible to win. If you get in a fight with a heavy weight try to avoid him, but you may not have enough room to avoid, and you might end up having to take a beating before you take him down.
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Apr 25, 2008 9:46 PM #123323
I want to learn Sambo.
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Apr 25, 2008 9:47 PM #123324
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I want to learn Sambo.


Then go to russia you commie bastard.


EDIT: I think we can ALL learn from Bas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3K-mrlYG7Y

Never underestimate the kick in the balls.
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Apr 25, 2008 9:49 PM #123326
I wanna learn krav maga.
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Apr 25, 2008 11:54 PM #123430
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You don't seem to understand what the thread is about. He was saying that your post made no sense and didn't apply to the topic of discussion. And this thread IS about talking. its the DEBATE section, we're supposed to be debating if martial arts helps you in a real life situation.


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An umbrella wouldn't help you much honestly, its to flimsy to be used as a weapon , even for stabbing. It be better for a distraction, you could throw it towards their face while its open then drop down and strike low.


Yeah if you get into a fight you WILL get hurt, either bruised or cut. But knowing martial arts gives you an edge in the fight, but if you're fighting like a 300 pound man and you only way about 150, your chances of beating him go down, despite contrary belief size DOES matter. The more body weight you have, the more solid and muscular you are, even if you're mostly fat. think about it, a 20 pound weight hurts when its dropped on your foot from 3 feet, but a 200 pound weight hurts relatively the same when dropped form only half a foot. Same applies to punches and kicks. If I get hit by a 150 pound man with his fist moving at lets say 35 miles per hour, it would hurt. But if a 300 pound man only punched me with 15-20 miles an hour it would hurt about the same. [I know I used to have a friend who was also a martial artist who was roughly 300 pounds, his punches hurt like hell and he was hitting at the same speed as everyone else.]


The Le Savate (SP?) martial art in France uses what I believe are long-range kicks and umbrellas (though they can be fitted with blades) for self defense. Don't quote me on that, though.

You forgot to mention that armspan can also give you an advantage. Although being large can be part of an advantage, being light, quick, strong, smart and flexible will always be the winner, rather than being large, pretty fast...flexibility..? And having much technique. A larger person IS ABLE to be quite quick, HOWEVER, will not be living up to their full potential.

Remember in the movie "Game of Death" with Bruce Lee? He fought with Kareem-Abdul Jabbar, it was a good show of how flexibility, speed and technique can be used well.

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Wrong! Thats quite silly to say , you cant defeat a strong guy with just will , with will you will have bravery to fight him even knowing him better , but without strength you cant do much


Oh jeeze.

1. I know you have to be intelligent in a fight, in fact I am an intellectual fighter, but suffer because I am not as physically fit as I should be.

2. Where did I say that will can be only used to beat someone? I simply said, will can be powerful.
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Apr 26, 2008 8:06 AM #123687
Yes it can but it cant go out without Strength