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May 15, 2014 6:14 AM #1195418
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L O L.

Man I kinda like these kind of stories so yeah...


And now I'm pushing on with NaruTaru. I hear it only gets really fucked up waaay later on but I'm just in Volume 5.



Anyways, Liar Game just came back again from a year hiatus, and the next game has been announced to be the last...
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May 15, 2014 11:53 AM #1195483
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The lack of Tonari no Seki-kun in that list hurts me deeply. But yes, all signs are pointing that I will love One Week Friends, so I'm trying my hardest not till watch it until it's all done.

I've only watched the first episode so far, so there's no guarantee that it can stay consistent. But it's pretty good so far.

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I agree, but I came in watching Nanana expecting something much more and I came out a little disappointed. And the end of the first episode (robbers vs girl detective or whatever) showed signs of taking itself too seriously and not seriously at the same time (hard to explain), so I wasn't sure how to feel. That's why I said I might come back to it, just with a different mindset.

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I actually have no problem with the art or the plot, I think both are creative and engaging. But the characters are honestly terribly written and that threw me off guard. I really don't like them lol
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May 15, 2014 12:08 PM #1195485
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I agree, but I came in watching Nanana expecting something much more and I came out a little disappointed. And the end of the first episode (robbers vs girl detective or whatever) showed signs of taking itself too seriously and not seriously at the same time (hard to explain), so I wasn't sure how to feel. That's why I said I might come back to it, just with a different mindset.

Yeah, they keep inserting little hints here and there that it could be a serious show, and I don't know how I feel about it. I don't think the characters or plot are being done is such a way that could pull of serious themes, they really are suited to just being 'fun'. For me, that's the way I want it to stay, but I could be wrong, they may find a way of exploring some deeper themes without making it feel out of place, but I doubt it...

I actually have no problem with the art or the plot, I think both are creative and engaging. But the characters are honestly terribly written and that threw me off guard. I really don't like them lol

Yeah the characters aren't amazing, I really do like the ambition side of things, but I agree that it seems a bit far-fetched that they can use their 'gaming knowledge' to the degree that they do. But for me I think it's what Hewitt was talking about a while back, if the emphasis is on the games then you really don't need strong characters, it's the games that will sell the show, but at the moment I'm not sure if they will concentrate on the games... I don't know, I'm not explaining it well, but I think it has potential to be enjoyable or fall flat on it's face.
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May 15, 2014 3:32 PM #1195531
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Yeah, they keep inserting little hints here and there that it could be a serious show, and I don't know how I feel about it. I don't think the characters or plot are being done is such a way that could pull of serious themes, they really are suited to just being 'fun'. For me, that's the way I want it to stay, but I could be wrong, they may find a way of exploring some deeper themes without making it feel out of place, but I doubt it...

I'm glad my point came across, I thought I was being really unclear and vague lol

Yeah the characters aren't amazing, I really do like the ambition side of things, but I agree that it seems a bit far-fetched that they can use their 'gaming knowledge' to the degree that they do. But for me I think it's what Hewitt was talking about a while back, if the emphasis is on the games then you really don't need strong characters, it's the games that will sell the show, but at the moment I'm not sure if they will concentrate on the games... I don't know, I'm not explaining it well, but I think it has potential to be enjoyable or fall flat on it's face.

Yeah I think the games will be the selling point, but imo the difference between the MCs of NGNL and Yugioh (the simile Hewitt was making, and not the "card game" Yugioh but when it was still about mastering games) is that Yugi is initially a weak character who is strengthened by his resolve and emotions. This stimulates the appearance of the pharaoh, who is the actual King of Games; his dominance actually makes sense because the correlation between the King of all games and the challenges that he accepts make sense. Plus, since he's an Egyptian relic so to speak, it's a lot more plausible that basic games or puzzles that he sets out in the story actually correlates with his experience. Yugi's development as a character from his weak, unconfident nature that develops to become a stronger person thanks to the presence of the pharaoh makes the anime/manga that much more engaging to me (plus, the original Yugioh was not very shounen, so that made it more entertaining).

NGNL correlates computer gaming experience (online chess, poker, have at you) and brings it to real life play and seemingly makes the MC's amazing at it. It really doesn't make any sense. If you have no social skills, how would you be able to tell whether the innkeeper is lying to you about how much a gold coin is worth? How would you be able to read the poker faces of you're enemies? Why is the subliminal message here if you're good at computer games, you're good at every game that requires physical or eye-to-eye contact? Plus, the anime immediately sets out to make this duo all powerful and knowing with little flaws to start out with alongside with a set of skill that really shouldn't help all that much in this world. The selling point are the games for sure, but I have no doubt the studio is making the pair to be OP as possible to give the audience some kind of flavor and opinion about gamers or something, or the studio is trying to make your typical OP shounen character for a selling point. I just don't like it at all because it seems pretty mindless and potentially shounen. I think I'll give it a chance once my summer vacation starts, but it's hard to enjoy something when my particular preference in anime is the presence of interesting characters.

Oh yeah, apparently Drone likes NGNL.
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The lack of Tonari no Seki-kun in that list hurts me deeply.

This'll probably be another laundry anime for me since they're short. Looking forward to it!

Btw, is Hamatora any good? When I read the synopsis, it sounded like my kind of anime, but then I read the top reviews on MAL and it says it had lost potential. I'm torn.


EDIT: Huh, apparently Hitsuga no Chaika got a season 2 and apparently it was well-received. I'll give it another chance.
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May 15, 2014 4:05 PM #1195541
To be fair the duo is meant to excel at all games and not just computer games, but tbh that excuse is flimsy at best and nearly all your points are still legit. They could use the excuse that they've played a lot of RPG's but I at least have never heard of one that has an innkeeper trying to over charge you, and while they are very cynical because of their world they really wouldn't have the experience of getting ripped off by some dude to use in the new world. I think a massive justification for how they are is that they consider knowledge = power and that could explain why they know so much about a variety of things and how those things can apply to gaming, but it honestly is a stretch and is sitting on the laughable side of things. But, I think it's fine if the show is just trying to be fun. If fun is what they are going for then I can cut the characters some slack, they are quirky, some might say likable, and they're wish-fulfillment characters that are easy to get behind, sure they might not make 100% sense but do they really need to in a series that's aim is to be 'fun'?

Also this isn't really a spoiler, but it's here for people who haven't started and don't want to be tainted with the knowledge of the direction the show is going (you should be able to tell if you've seen 1 or 2 eps).
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In unrelated news, Black Bullet and Brynhildr in the Darkness are slowlt losing me. They both showed some level of promise at being a serious show which could tackle some interesting themes, but it is slowly becoming evident that instead of taking a risk they would prefer to stay inside the comfort zone and degrade into just another generic blob. I honestly have no idea how either of these shows got the Seinen tag, I cannot see how they shows were being aimed at an older demographic... Black Bullet has decided to give our kind-hearted generic tech jacked protagonist a harem instead of delving into some serious themes that are right fucking there staring me in the face, and Brynhildr in the Darkness has dropped on nearly every aspect of the show which has little hope of picking itself up and moving away from its inevitable destination of "interesting premise that was executed terribly"...
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May 15, 2014 4:20 PM #1195544
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Brynhildr in the Darkness has dropped on nearly every aspect of the show which has little hope of picking itself up and moving away from its inevitable destination of "interesting premise that was executed terribly"...

If I remember correctly, the manga wasn't too bad. What didn't you like?
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May 15, 2014 4:49 PM #1195549
I should start by saying I've only watched four episodes, but at the moment I'm generally feeling butt-hurt about kind of being lied to. First of all when I see a seinen tag I generally expect a few different things, I either expect the show to dive into some more serious or thought provoking themes where everything is a tad bit ambiguous and generally more realistic, or I expect it to be a light hearted show that is nice for killing time and generally distracts me from how shit the world is all the while requiring little brain power and commitment (such as nonnon biyori or Tonari no Seki-kun).

What I have from Bryn is neither of those, what I have is a kind but bland protagonist that is a general loner slowly being surrounded by girls with super powers... Sure it has a few dark themes that could maybe be considered mature, but really they just seem juvenile at the moment (that might change, but I wouldn't bet on it), our vague but menacing government agency is exactly that which is dull as fuck. The characters are also really dull, and none of them are particularly interesting to watch. The animation isn't bad but isn't amazing. The sound is generally good, but the dubstep part of the OP ruins it for me, and the fact that a girl who speaks by typing into a computer can somehow change the volume and tone at which she speaks is just plain stupid. The one fight scene we've had so far was anticlimactic considering we have girls with super heroes, but whatever.

The plot is probably the only redeemable aspect at the moment, and even then the small additions of fan-service really feel out of place. The mystery behind everything at the moment is really the only reason I'm watching it, but I wouldn't be surprised if the reveals were boring. I should also mention the aspect of our main character projecting his 'dead' friend onto a similar looking girl while she has supposedly never met him is interesting but isn't being developed in any meaningful way at the moment...

I really hope it shapes up, but I doubt it will, and I'd put my money on it degrading into a generic harem which is trying to be all 'mature n shit'... IT'S NOT FUCKING SEINEN!
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May 15, 2014 5:27 PM #1195552
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I should start by saying I've only watched four episodes, but at the moment I'm generally feeling butt-hurt about kind of being lied to. First of all when I see a seinen tag I generally expect a few different things, I either expect the show to dive into some more serious or thought provoking themes where everything is a tad bit ambiguous and generally more realistic, or I expect it to be a light hearted show that is nice for killing time and generally distracts me from how shit the world is all the while requiring little brain power and commitment (such as nonnon biyori or Tonari no Seki-kun).

What I have from Bryn is neither of those, what I have is a kind but bland protagonist that is a general loner slowly being surrounded by girls with super powers... Sure it has a few dark themes that could maybe be considered mature, but really they just seem juvenile at the moment (that might change, but I wouldn't bet on it), our vague but menacing government agency is exactly that which is dull as fuck. The characters are also really dull, and none of them are particularly interesting to watch. The animation isn't bad but isn't amazing. The sound is generally good, but the dubstep part of the OP ruins it for me, and the fact that a girl who speaks by typing into a computer can somehow change the volume and tone at which she speaks is just plain stupid. The one fight scene we've had so far was anticlimactic considering we have girls with super heroes, but whatever.

The plot is probably the only redeemable aspect at the moment, and even then the small additions of fan-service really feel out of place. The mystery behind everything at the moment is really the only reason I'm watching it, but I wouldn't be surprised if the reveals were boring. I should also mention the aspect of our main character projecting his 'dead' friend onto a similar looking girl while she has supposedly never met him is interesting but isn't being developed in any meaningful way at the moment...

I really hope it shapes up, but I doubt it will, and I'd put my money on it degrading into a generic harem which is trying to be all 'mature n shit'... IT'S NOT FUCKING SEINEN!

Hmmmm, it's been a while since I last read the manga, but at the time I thought it was close enough to seinen (you could argue that it wasn't, but imo there was a fine line), but I haven't watched the anime yet. I don't remember why I dropped it, it might have either been because the plot was taking too long and the updates weren't going fast enough to keep the manga interesting so I dropped it, but I could be wrong. I mean there certainly are harem elements to it, but I don't think it's nearly blatant enough where it would bother me (as in obvious fan-service and the typical whatever you see in harems, ex. the MC doesn't go all pervert around the girls). It's hard to go into detail since it's been a long time since I read it (like one or two years ago?) and I don't plan on going back because there are like 50+ chapters that I'd have to read over again and I don't have the patience. I just remember that characters didn't feel immortal, so that was a plus, and just by skimming it right now there's some pretty good plot points that had some thriller. What exactly is happening right now? Maybe I'll be able to pinpoint where you are and I can read from there. It may or may not better, who knows.

Btw, did you watch Irregular at the Magic High School? I don't like it, but I want to see if it's unanimous or if I'm just being stubborn.
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May 15, 2014 5:56 PM #1195555
I'm probably being harsh because of how disappointed I am at the moment, I don't actually think it's 'bad' I just don't like how it is establishing itself.
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In all honesty, I won't drop it but it keeps sending up red flag after red flag...

Also no, I never watched it, it seemed pretty boring shounen magic powers kind of stuff to me, but that alone wouldn't be enough to make me nope out but this "and the younger sister who holds feelings a little stronger than sibling love for him..." was what pushed me off the fence into fuck it territory. I would have been willing to watch it when it was done if people proved my expectations wrong, but I doubt that will happen.
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May 16, 2014 12:13 AM #1195638
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I'm probably being harsh because of how disappointed I am at the moment, I don't actually think it's 'bad' I just don't like how it is establishing itself.
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Hmmmm. I guess I don't really know if it gets that much better from there. I'd have to revisit it again to make sure.
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May 17, 2014 7:26 PM #1196300
Don't know if anyone has already mentioned this anime, but I highly recommend it. It's called Magi. I'll post the wikipedia link if anyone wants to just get the gist of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magi:_The_Labyrinth_of_Magic
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May 17, 2014 7:45 PM #1196311
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Don't know if anyone has already mentioned this anime, but I highly recommend it. It's called Magi.

Would it be wrong of me to laugh extremely hard right now? I assume so. I recommend The following anime. Real men watch these anime:

  • Fullmetal alchemist brotherhood
  • Cowboy bebop
  • Ghost in the shell: Stand alone complex. Second Gig, as well.
  • Bleach
  • Angel beats
  • Evangelion
  • Psycho pass
  • Hellsing
  • Soul Eater
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May 17, 2014 8:06 PM #1196318
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Would it be wrong of me to laugh extremely hard right now? I assume so. I recommend The following anime. Real men watch these anime:

  • Fullmetal alchemist brotherhood
  • Cowboy bebop
  • Ghost in the shell: Stand alone complex. Second Gig, as well.
  • Bleach
  • Angel beats
  • Evangelion
  • Psycho pass
  • Hellsing


Very strong and well constructed argument you've got there.
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May 17, 2014 8:09 PM #1196320
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Would it be wrong of me to laugh extremely hard right now? I assume so. I recommend The following anime. Real men watch these anime:

  • Fullmetal alchemist brotherhood
  • Cowboy bebop
  • Ghost in the shell: Stand alone complex. Second Gig, as well.
  • Bleach
  • Angel beats
  • Evangelion
  • Psycho pass
  • Hellsing


I like your list. Though you lack some Soul Eater, Trigun, or Highschool of the Dead (for you pervs and zombie fans out there)
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May 17, 2014 8:19 PM #1196324
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I like your list. Though you lack some Soul Eater, Trigun, or Highschool of the Dead (for you pervs and zombie fans out there)
For goodness sake. I knew I was missing something, and it was bugging me. It was Soul Eater. I'll add it. As for Highschool of the dead... I would rather not post THAT little beauty in my list. Rumor has it that there are actual females on the prowl in this forum. It would be best to not aggravate them. And I've never seen trigun. What genre is it? I may have to look into it.