Quote from Myself

Final episode of YY soon. Season 3 confirmed.
Season 2 of PSG pretty much confirmed to be in the works.
SAO is selling poorly.
Everyone panic.

i hate piss and shit so much words cannot describe.

and what are you talking about?
>**1位/**1位 ★ (*20,282 pt) [*,252予約] 12/10/24 ソードアート・オンライン 1【完全生産限定版】
>**2位/**2位 ★ (*11,742 pt) [*,*59予約] 12/12/26 ソードアート・オンライン 3(完全生産限定版)
>**3位/**3位 ★ (*14,125 pt) [*,129予約] 12/11/21 ソードアート・オンライン 2(完全生産限定版)
(^preorders so far)
SAO is selling like hotcakes, it could even beat madoka. like, sales so high that it could touch the highest sales in the universe. to say "poorly" makes no sense unless that was some kind of joke

actually, maybe your post is a joke, since all of those things are false... I don't get the punchline, though.

Quote from Jombo

Why anime, first of all? What's so special about anime that it deserves its own club in almost every school?

I'm guessing that's because 1) anime is easier to draw than cartoon-ish stuff; b) it's just extremely popular in our time period.

IMHO, most of the anime has got terrific backgrounds and design, but it gets kind of freaky for me when it comes to characters' layouts. I remember I watched one episode of Pokemon as a 6 year old kid, and my first reaction was: "What's wrong with their eyes? Is that yellow hare a mutant?". I just didn't like it. Then I watched some other stuff until one sunny day Hentai hasn't ruined anime (and 5% of my childhood) for me once and for all. Since then I couldn't take it seriously. However I was 11, so after a while I watched Cowboy Bepop and Kill Bill. Kill Bill inspired me a lot. I moved to dystopia genre because of stuff like that; I loved it. It was the last anime I watched in what?.. 2-3 years?

god that post was terrible, what the fuck. why do i even bother reading this thread.

I don't know.

<- A person who doesn't watch anime everyday.

I don't either.

>bepop
>kill bill is anime
>I totally remember things I thought when I was 6
>everything looks like pokemon
>anime is easier to draw than cartoons

just no

>A typo?
>
>This was a strong fucking memory.
>No?
>It is for me.

it's a fucking live action movie from America with some short animated sequences... it is objectively not anime.

how is drawing anime characters easier than cartoons when cartoons are extremely simplified and usually without much detail? the reason cartoons have smoother animation and more movement is because they don't have to draw as much.

if you think something like this is hard to draw, especially when compared to anime where the vast majority of character designs require shading/detailed clothes/somewhat realistic anatomy/etc, you're insane

even if you draw a stick figure it's technically a cartoon, while the "anime style" is almost never pulled off by American people. I have only seen a western artist who can accurately draw animo characters a few times. usually it's obvious to me that it just looks like a deviant-art cartoon trying to be anime. this discussion is based on generalizations, but I still think what you're saying is ridiculous

you can make a drawing as simplified as possible, even a circle being a cartoon, but you can't make it realistic or it ceases to be a cartoon by definition.
anime is a type of cartoon btw.

western cartoons are designed to be easy to draw for efficiency reasons. If you've ever taken a real course in animation, you'd know this. It's why most "cartoon" characters start with basic shapes when being drawn. The anime style is much, MUCH more difficult to get right, and most of the teens on this site who claim they can "draw anime" either suck at it or trace like fuck.

Quote from Index

maybe your post is a joke

But the final episode of YY is soon.

Also I wish SAO wasn't selling as well as it is, it's not very good.

Quote from Myself

But the final episode of YY is soon.

Also I wish SAO wasn't selling as well as it is, it's not very good.

i agree. being displeased with sales is the case for me almost all of the time, though, whether it's selling way too much or too little. (bakemonogatari sold far too little; every man, woman, and child on earth should've purchased a copy. only 330k, wtf??)

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western cartoons are designed to be easy to draw for efficiency reasons. If you've ever taken a real course in animation, you'd know this. It's why most "cartoon" characters start with basic shapes when being drawn.

yeah, that's pretty much what I had in mind when writing the third sentence of my post.

Quote from Index

how is drawing anime characters easier than cartoons when cartoons are extremely simplified and usually without much detail? the reason cartoons have smoother animation and more movement is because they don't have to draw as much.

I don't think I've explained myself correctly enough. By "cartoon" I meant animations like Adam Phillips' "Brackenwood" or James Lee's "Tarboy"; not some simplified minimalistic stuff. Or f.e, this animation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVkDrIacHJM I know it's 3D, but I'm going to mention it anyway, I keep noticing that more and more people are using anime models. I don't say it's good or bad, if an animation has a good idea then who cares if it's anime/stick figure/other types. I just would like that anime is a pretty easy style to start drawing/animating with. No doubt it's harder than stick figures, but sticks are another classification (minimalism). A lot people got used to that stick figures can only be used for concept/guides and that a stick figure animation "is not serious". But, I'll use Jombo's quote:

Quote from Jombo

"because they fucking drew that way"

However, I'm just posting my opinion about the topic. As I admitted a couple posts above, I don't watch anime as frequently as the most of you here. So please enlighten me if I'm wrong at some points.

Quote from Index

yeah, that's pretty much what I had in mind when writing the third sentence of my post.

I think my post was more directed at eviltie, I was backin you up

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anime is a pretty easy style to start drawing/animating with

I can't speak for drawing, but it is not easy to start animating with. For whatever reason (I'm not an art man, it can probably be explained though) if you're animating in 'anime style' you need to keep the characters almost completely on-model or else it looks shit. Contrast this with Disney cartoons or The Simpsons episodes before the animators got lazy where characters are constantly being drawn off-model (particularly when in motion) and it still looks pretty fantastic.

Quote from eviltie

I don't think I've explained myself correctly enough. By "cartoon" I meant animations like Adam Phillips' "Brackenwood" or James Lee's "Tarboy"; not some simplified minimalistic stuff. Or f.e, this animation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVkDrIacHJM I know it's 3D, but I'm going to mention it anyway, I keep noticing that more and more people are using anime models. I don't say it's good or bad, if an animation has a good idea then who cares if it's anime/stick figure/other types. I just would like that anime is a pretty easy style to start drawing/animating with. No doubt it's harder than stick figures, but sticks are another classification (minimalism). A lot people got used to that stick figures can only be used for concept/guides and that a stick figure animation "is not serious". But, I'll use Jombo's quote:



However, I'm just posting my opinion about the topic. As I admitted a couple posts above, I don't watch anime as frequently as the most of you here. So please enlighten me if I'm wrong at some points.

You're just choosing the most high-quality examples of cartoons out there, when in reality, most cartoons are much more simple and easy to make drawings of. Most popular cartoons and comic strips have minimalistic characters. You also originally said that anime is more popular because it's easier to draw, which says that you weren't just talking about your personal thing, but what you think it's like for everyone. Like, you said anime is easier for everyone to draw, not just you, thus explaining its popularity. Also, almost everyone (everyone) starts animating full body by using a wire-frame figure or an almost amorphous body with arms, legs, and a head, oftentimes just outlining a stick figure. No one starts with a completed anime face on their characters with hair and everything right off the bat, not to mention clothes more detailed than a single-colored flat shirt and pants and shit. You're just blatantly wrong. I don't have anything else to say.

Some people I've talked to just hate anime.. no matter how it looks and how detailed it is, they just hate how it looks. I think those people are just stupid kids tho. They even say they think stick animations look better, crazy kids these days..