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Nov 26, 2015 5:16 AM #1418498
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Oh yeah sure, everyone watches it now because the anime got popular

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*I'm not saying I'm a hipster for liking it, but that I've been getting people to read it for years and people dismiss it because it's so goshdarn long. But now that the anime is out nobody minds wtf


I hope you left those people.
Also, I've seen some random clips of that One Punch anime, looks like an anime that every action (fights and shit) lover has been waiting for. Which includes me. Good first impressions on my side.
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Nov 26, 2015 1:31 PM #1418590
Manga doesn't have VA

Anime > Manga
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Nov 26, 2015 4:01 PM #1418613
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Manga doesn't have VA

Anime > Manga


True, and I've always watched and preferred anime than manga since I prefer watching than reading. But usually the manga has more story and explains more than the anime, and tbh, some mangas were good but the anime was bad cause of either poor directing or poor animation and the lack of some details.

I however still prefer watching anime cause SFX, voices, some things that you can't just get from the manga alone.
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Nov 26, 2015 4:22 PM #1418620
You could make your own sound effects.
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Nov 26, 2015 4:31 PM #1418623
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Who the hell reads/watches Jojo other than Raptor (because I told him to)

Actually, the reason I picked up Jojo this time around was because I hang around another forum where literally everyone has read/watched Jojo except me, which made me feel slightly insecure every time they made a Jojo joke/discussion. After a certain point I just said fuck it and started reading it. I didn't even remember that you read it until I thought about who to discuss it with on SP lol

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Oh yeah sure, everyone watches it now because the anime got popular

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*I'm not saying I'm a hipster for liking it, but that I've been getting people to read it for years and people dismiss it because it's so goshdarn long. But now that the anime is out nobody minds wtf

I didn't even know it had a (good) anime until after I started reading it.


Oh and for the record, Vento Aureo is probably my least favorite part besides Phantom Blood. Though at this pace, I probably dislike Stone Ocean slightly more.
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Nov 27, 2015 12:10 AM #1418693
Stone Ocean (the one with Jorge Joestar) was non-canon, right? I've heard that it's pretty disliked.

Meanwhile, I got into Jojo from the prevalence of Battle Tendency (and the memes). Before then I thought of JJBA as a series about people with stands. I should've gotten a friend to sell it better to me, there's reason why there are so many parts. Also, Hamon is one of the best superpowers ever, then it got supplanted by stands. Maybe in summer vacation I'd take the time to watch/read all of it.
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Nov 27, 2015 1:01 AM #1418705
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Actually, the reason I picked up Jojo this time around was because I hang around another forum where literally everyone has read/watched Jojo except me, which made me feel slightly insecure every time they made a Jojo joke/discussion. After a certain point I just said fuck it and started reading it. I didn't even remember that you read it until I thought about who to discuss it with on SP lol

Oh and for the record, Vento Aureo is probably my least favorite part besides Phantom Blood. Though at this pace, I probably dislike Stone Ocean slightly more.


See, that just validates my point that nobody really wanted to give it a little love until it started getting hype many years later, despite my pleas.

Yeah I can understand how Vento Aureo can be the worst. The only thing I don't like about it is Diavolo. But imo, Part 5 is probably the peak of Araki's creativity when it came to the Stands. There were a few choice battles in 6 as well, but not a grand slam across the board. I love 5 for its battles and Stands, but I love 4 more for its plot and how mundane it is compared to everything else.

As long as you're not one of those fanboys who think that Part 3 is the best thing evar, unless you had legit reasons.

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Stone Ocean (the one with Jorge Joestar) was non-canon, right? I've heard that it's pretty disliked.

Meanwhile, I got into Jojo from the prevalence of Battle Tendency (and the memes). Before then I thought of JJBA as a series about people with stands. I should've gotten a friend to sell it better to me, there's reason why there are so many parts. Also, Hamon is one of the best superpowers ever, then it got supplanted by stands. Maybe in summer vacation I'd take the time to watch/read all of it.


Stone Ocean is Part 6. Jorge belongs to another novel.

While I kinda miss Hamon, I also recognize that Araki was at the time ripping off on Fist of the North Star. I find it nice that he finally branched out into his own thing when Stands came around although I will admit that as the series went on, their origin story changed dramatically.

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Nov 27, 2015 2:22 AM #1418729
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Hey Raptor, did you ever read Recca No Honoo? It's from that guy who made MAR and Mixim.

I haven't started it yet, but yeah I know it has lots of similarities to Yuyu. I'd like to give it a change later on, but I'm not too much of a fan of the artstyle. Yuyu's art style in comparison was a lot cleaner and had less of that large eyes effect on their girls.

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Manga doesn't have VA

Anime > Manga

VA can sometimes ruin it for me (Ore no Monogatari). Atrocious/disappointing animation can also ruin it for me, which is actually far more common (Birdy the Might Decode, especially S2).

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Yeah I can understand how Vento Aureo can be the worst. The only thing I don't like about it is Diavolo. But imo, Part 5 is probably the peak of Araki's creativity when it came to the Stands. There were a few choice battles in 6 as well, but not a grand slam across the board. I love 5 for its battles and Stands, but I love 4 more for its plot and how mundane it is compared to everything else.

Oh no, I completely agree. I definitely think that Vento Aureo had the best and most bad-ass ally/enemy stands (though Part 4 holds a soft spot because it has stands like Bite the Dust, Crazy Diamond, and The Hand) and were completely original compared to previous stands. The only exception of this may have been White Album, but even then Araki put his own interesting twist to the stands powers. Vento also had the longest and most complete battles of any Part with battles lasting up to five or more chapters whereas Parts 3 and 4 some would end in like two. I also adore the fact that Araki started naming the stands after famous bands, songs, and albums (though some were a little too inspired by their names: The Rolling Stones stand was stupid imo). So yeah, I agree that Part 5 had the best stands, though I will say that some were overly convoluted than they needed to be, the biggest offender being King Crimson (which kind of seemed like a more complicated version of Dio's stand in Part 3). In fact, I thought the final boss was very forgettable and mostly disappointing, especially when you compare him to Dio and Kira. Actually, the reason I think I might dislike Stone Ocean more is because the stands have become way to overly complicated for their own good.

As long as you're not one of those fanboys who think that Part 3 is the best thing evar, unless you had legit reasons.

Well, here's my order from best to worst in my opinion so far: 4 > 3 > 2 > 5 >= 1. Part 6 so far probably goes somewhere between Parts 5 and 1, maybe even slightly before Part 1.

I think Part 3 is better than Part 2 for several reasons. One, I simply thought Dio was a better and more memorable villain than Esidisi, Wamuu, and Kars combined. Part 2's supporting characters were also lackluster compared to Part 3's. Lisa Lisa was honestly a disappointing inclusion since she really didn't do anything aside from introduce a training montage, and Caesar was just not a very entertaining character from start to finish. The only redeeming part of his character was that he showed development with Joseph, and that's practically it. That being said, I do understand the criticism that Part 3 emphasizes its side characters a bit too much (Polnareff's Bizarre Adventure as I like to say) or not at all (the stowaway girl doesn't even have a fucking name) whereas Battle Tendency made me care about a damn Nazi. I also think that Joseph's character and wit was more entertaining than that of Kujo and the rest of Stardust Crusaders' cast (like the predicting what the opponent would say; that's too fucking good). With that said, Joseph was really the only entertaining and cool character within Battle Tendency, and honestly if he wasn't in the manga or didn't have a strong enough presence as he did, Part 2 would have easily been one of the worst parts. I don't think you could really say the same about Part 3, and that's why I think it's a more solid manga all around.

I could give you other reasonings behind my order, but 2 versus 3 is the one most people ask me about when I show them my opinion.
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Nov 27, 2015 3:50 AM #1418741
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I haven't started it yet, but yeah I know it has lots of similarities to Yuyu. I'd like to give it a change later on, but I'm not too much of a fan of the artstyle. Yuyu's art style in comparison was a lot cleaner and had less of that large eyes effect on their girls.


Actually I just wanted to recc it to you because I find it a personal favorite because it was my first and it was what got me into appreciating Smart Fight Scenes. It's the cornerstone of everything I've ever made with fights in it like SP.net Like, I know it has alot of flaws that just doesn't match with today's standards: shallow backstories (maybe), uninspiring powers by the end, and in general just battle after battle in every chapter. But so were many other shows back then (like Weiss Kreuz and Saiyuki). I actually kinda miss Shounen with ridiculously long Tournament Arcs. So yeah, I'm finding it hard to see you absolutely like it most especially since Yu Yu is such a strong contender, but I just thought I'd say it.

Also, this is how I've always dreamed the Hokage would be. Not the bullshit Naruto has.

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5 has the best stands and fights except Diavolo and 6 jumped the shark


Yes. I completely agree. The only time I ever liked Diavolo is using him in the Fighting Game. He has this counter supermove that basically reduces your opponent's health by half if it connects and it's crazy because you still don't know why or how XD It's also a running gag in the fandom to say that Killer Crimson's ability description is that "It just works."

From your comments in Part 6, I wanna say that it only gets worse in Part 7 in that some of the powers are just ridiculously situational but I don't know. The Horse Racing is incorporated into some of the fights and it feels suspiciously like Yugioh 5Ds Card Games on Motorcycles (which I've always loved btw) where it's the same ol schtick but on an even more ridiculous schtick. Not all of em are Horse Fights anyway. Also Johnny Jostar is also pretty endearing and his Mentor is like if Caesar had the badass qualities of Bruno. What I will say is that the Final Boss of P7 is awesome. His ability is fresh and even more OP than all previous parts (except P6 Final Form of course). Never have I ever seen so many practical sci-fi badassery with the American Flag.

Also curious about whether you'll like Part 8 as it is essentially an AU version of 4/5 (where 7 is an AU of 1-3).

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Well, here's my order from best to worst in my opinion so far: 4 > 3 > 2 > 5 >= 1. Part 6 so far probably goes somewhere between Parts 5 and 1, maybe even slightly before Part 1.



I could give you other reasonings behind my order, but 2 versus 3 is the one most people ask me about when I show them my opinion.


I actually love Joseph too because I know someone irl that acts and talks exactly like Joseph, except for the whole word prediction thing. Like, if he was a Hamon user, I'm pretty sure he'd fight exactly like Joseph. I mean, I don't really hate 3 I just feel they're overhyped; that they're always the first thing you think about when you mention Jojo. But Jotaro is just incredibly Ryu-ish at times and I felt like they went on for far too long like seriously every tarot card faced them and 9 egyptian gods too? Araki must've had a field day or something. Went crazy with the concept of Stands and all.
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Nov 27, 2015 7:03 AM #1418765
There is one thing that I wanted to mention though. The thing I thought made stands cool and unique and different from just having "powers" when they were first revealed in Part 3 was the fact that the stands were essentially extensions of their body, almost like a separate entity or spirit. It made the abilities more interesting since stands were almost like a partnership between the user and the ability, not to mention that stands were directly connected to the user in battle, making the fights more dynamic.

Starting with Part 4 though, that concept was starting to lose itself, and by Part 5, this concept would, for the most part, completely be ignored. It's almost like a side-quality of stands now, and it's pretty easy to forget that stands are more than just powers. That's a change that I haven't liked and part of the reason why Part 3 are in some ways stronger than Parts 5 and 6, and in some specific cases better than Part 4.
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Nov 27, 2015 7:23 AM #1418781
MMmm. Good point. The fact that people just stopped hitting each other's Stands on purpose sort of bothered me by the end of it. It will probably disappoint you even more in P7 where the Stands are just inanimate objects with powers at that point. P8 tries to recover though but yeah it still doesn't mention the whole extension of one's body shit anymore.
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Nov 28, 2015 3:55 AM #1418976
So I just finished Stone Ocean.
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Nov 28, 2015 3:57 AM #1418977
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Literally the best way to read manga.
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Nov 28, 2015 4:00 AM #1418978
Dunno if you talked about this one already, but I started to read Psyren. I'm on chapter 16, but I'm really liking it until now.
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Nov 28, 2015 4:45 AM #1418990
Yeah Hewitt and I read it. I won't spoil anything though.
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