Anyone here seen Kara no Kyoukai?

Drone has, but I dunno where he is right now.

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Literally the best way to read manga.

More like, the way of reading Manga.

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Yeah Hewitt and I read it. I won't spoil anything though.

You'd be a good troll.

Thinking of reading BLAME! Anyone read it? It's seems sort of like cyberpunk on crack.

I read the first chapter and I figured I would probably enjoy it more if I were on crack. I think Hewitt's read that too. If you end up liking Blame, I'd recommend Dorohedoro. Similar kind of art style and atmosphere.

Wait wait I've never read Psyren OR BLAME! Where is this coming from?


As to your commentary on P6 Raptor

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Anyone here seen Kara no Kyoukai?

I watched it semi recently

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Wait wait I've never read Psyren OR BLAME! Where is this coming from?


As to your commentary on P6 Raptor

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I'm so glad you liked how it ended. Alot of people seemed to think it was stupid that they 'didn't win'. That said, are you a proponent now of the theory that Giorno's final form survived this ordeal? That's sort of what the fans are looking forward to beyond P8. I mean it's entirely plausible.

Just a little subtext for you I dont know if you're aware. But P6 was Araki's final run in a Shounen publication. So at the time, just imagine how copped out the ending would've been or how brilliant it would've been to Hideo Kojima levels of insanity. P7 didn't actually start as a Jojo comic so if you plan to just jump in that, you'll notice how different it is. It won't be till a few chapters in that Araki basically says "Okay fine. It's Jojo now." and runs with it. And miraculously, he makes it so that P6 is still canon in that it basically creates a new universe and P7 onwards is like an AU reboot of the series. If you've read everything before and still remember them, you'll find similarities which aren't just nods to fans but things that make sense and are used. Moreover, Araki begins P7 in a Seinen publication so expect the chapters to be longer than before as they now come out monthly instead of weekly. How that affects things I'll hope to find from you soon.

Oh and you'll be glad to know that the Final Boss of P7 does not have anything to do with Time. He's SUPER OP still. But He's awesome.

I agree that the Stands in this Part were overly stretching and complex save for the few that you've mentioned. I kinda liked Weather Report though honestly. I mean think about it: Weather Control as a power has been done to death. So when he starts to get ridiculous about it, I just chalked that to a classic Araki touch much like that Ice guy in P5. I also liked Dragon's Dream for some reason; maybe its the user. But yeah the green baby plot took me awhile to figure out. I had to read the wiki to even understand that the bone was Dio's and Pucci was trying to find a Stand that could revive it. So the entire reason behind Sportsmax's Stand is to set off the chain of events that would lead to the finale.

I said previously that I liked Sportsmax's powers. But only because of how utterly stupid it was. How you couldn't question it because Araki. But it was really stupid yes. I never really appreciated the Hermes and Anasui's Stands until I saw and played the Fighting Game. I guess it just goes to show that the manga did not do a good job of showing it (the Fighting game takes 90% of its animations from exactly how the manga posed them). I loved FF and wish that she appears in the sequel fighting game.

Yeah, I think I'm confusing you for someone I met irl in regards to Psyren. Blame though I'm pretty sure I remember someone else on this forum referencing it at some point, and I thought it was you since you're the only one besides me and maybe Drone that reads obscure manga

About the frogs:




Also I found out that Gamble Fish finished 2 months ago. I know its a bad harem-based farce version of Liar Game but I was already in it and I needed to finish it. Ending was as cop-out as Liar Game but it was okay. The games got super ridiculous by the end and you needed to know Majhong to understand the quarter and semi-finals. Moreover, the final game was boring as fuck; Blackjack? Seriously? So many things could have been accomplished in a single volume. Or two. Still. It was really just worth it watching obama play Russian Roulette for.


My next read will be Franken Fran and One Piece---I hadn't read OP since the end of the Post-timeskip Fishman arc and alot of people have been bothering me about it because apparently an arc or two just ended and now is a good time to catch up.

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About the frogs:

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I believe some context is in order. When I was a kid, Raining Frogs was just one of the unsolved mysteries back then. I believe this power wasn't as ridiculous as they were introduced at the time. Further proof of that is Rikiel's Stand Sky High, which is said to control 'Rods'. But since that chapter's creation, Rods have been proven to be an optical illusion instead of a cryptid. So, I'd like to give it the benefit of the doubt.

Glad you like Steel Ball Run so far. I personally like the Dio here, but....well it's kind of an ending spoiler about him later that just rubbed me the wrong way so I won't go there for awhile. I'm excited that P7 Dio is appearing in the sequel Fighting game. And I'm really hoping they put FF this time. The only thing I didn't like about Annasui is that he's a man who ended up courting Joleyne. I heard he was originally a girl but Araki switched genders to 'balance' the cast.

And yes I miss 1-6 and am pretty hassled that all that shit is now invalidated. P6's ending made me cry the first time XD

As to the theory for Giorno, this is because Gold Experience Requiem is supposed to be the antithesis of cosmic eventuality. Add the fact that Giorno is Dio's TRUE descendent, and you have a very scrumptious rumor going on. Even the fighting game acknowledges this so the possibility is out there, especially from fans who miss P1-6 and do not like to think that it was all in vain.

Speaking of which, you should totally try to find a translated version of Purple Haze Feedback. It's a novel written for Jojo's 25th Anniversary that details Panacotta Fugo's time after he left the group back in Part 5. If anything, just read it for the Stand-Using drug dealers who each use stands based on a certain drug. By the end of it, Fugo gains a significant tweaking to his power so it doesn't feel so useless anymore which the PS3 game acknowledges and even includes a special battle scnenario for it.

Fugo was one of my fave characters and I heard Araki took him out because he was too OP. So reading this sidestory was a blast for me. I don't know about you though.

Also I found out that Gamble Fish finished 2 months ago. I know its a bad harem-based farce version of Liar Game but I was already in it and I needed to finish it. Ending was as cop-out as Liar Game but it was okay. The games got super ridiculous by the end and you needed to know Majhong to understand the quarter and semi-finals. Moreover, the final game was boring as fuck; Blackjack? Seriously? So many things could have been accomplished in a single volume. Or two. Still. It was really just worth it watching obama play Russian Roulette for.

Yeah, I'm not super interested in finishing Gamble Fish since it was sort of underwhelming, especially compared to Liar Game, but you caught my attention with Obama playing Russian Roulette. Can you refer the chapter for me lol

My next read will be Franken Fran and One Piece---I hadn't read OP since the end of the Post-timeskip Fishman arc and alot of people have been bothering me about it because apparently an arc or two just ended and now is a good time to catch up.

Personally, I don't think post-timeskip One Piece is very good, but I still love One Piece so I'll follow it till the end lol. That being said, I'm wondering if I don't think post-time skip isn't very good simply because of the pacing caused by reading a single chapter each week, sort of like how I felt with Tower of God after I caught up with the updates, so tell me your thoughts after reading it.

Also, Franken Fran sounds interesting, so I'll be giving that a try in the future.

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Anyone here seen Kara no Kyoukai?

By the way Mantha, I just saw ep 1 for Fate/Zero, and I wanted to post my thoughts. Everyone else who watched Fate/Zero is free to read too lol

Fate/Zero probably has one of the most solid, compatible, and mature cast of characters I've ever seen (not including Monster because I haven't finished it yet, and I don't think will anytime soon). But that doesn't mean its atmosphere is tension-filled throughout because my two main negros Broskandar and Waver often give the show some light-heartedness that isn't out of place because you'll know that they'll get real when they need to be. I'd say that all the characters that were given importance in Zero are way more interesting than any other character in UBW. Like, even Saber is better than Saber.

It's also pretty great to watch it right after watching UBW because of the mere knowledge that you will only see Shirou at the very end of the show.

There's a whole bunch of that that I want to address, regarding Saber and the setting but first let me gush about Waver for a bit. This is basically for everyone who watched or is watching Fate/Zero.

So I've been playing Fate/Grand Order a lot recently, right? Basically it's a gacha-based mobile game and you summon Servants and do a whole bunch of other shit.

I was fortunate to summon Zhuge Liang, or Lord El Melloi II.

Originally, Lord El-Melloi II was not someone possessing the caliber and the history that would result in a Servant. However, the extremely unique circumstances of this Holy Grail War got involved and his summoning was made possible by becoming the vessel of the Heroic Spirit of China, Zhuge Liang.

Strictly speaking, this Servant is neither El-Melloi II or Zhuge Liang. The powers of both parties has mingled together, so abilities that cannot be found in the original Servant are being displayed. Also, thoughts and emotions conform with those of the vessel, El-Melloi II.

Lord El Melloi II is practically older Waver.



When you have a Servant you usually ascend them, and they change forms (which usually means less clothes for the slutty Servants, we all know how that goes) BUT El Melloi II doesn't get an upgrade. Instead he reverts to WAVER VELVET and carries the cloak of Iskandar around with him, even in battle sprites.



I thought it was cute but I never knew there was a reason for it until recently.

In his own story interlude, he apparently meets up with the sisters of Gorgon and one of them explains it for him.

El-Melloi II (boy): Ascension is a reform to become stronger! What is the point of turning back to my old, half-assed self?!

Stheno: For you, there are things that can be done because of that figure….

Stheno: No, maybe the meaning here is that the “starting point of conception*” lies in that figure.

Stheno: Look, the abilities as a Servant have not dropped right?

Stheno: When you are fighting as a “leading actor”, that is your strongest…. no, your most fitting figure.

This is just. When you remember how he wanted to be respected (and tall) at the beginning of Fate/Zero and probably hated himself for being that helpless, it just moves me so much to see that he was full of potential and just as good as anyone else from the beginning. It speaks from me from the point of self-acceptance and striving forward in the Iskandar way.

Also is anyone else looking forward to the "Case Files of Lord El Melloi II" where he researches various mysteries with his mage apprentice? And Luviangelita is also there. (small clap) I'M SO HYPED, OKAY.

I've only watched one of Makoto Shinkai's movies (5 cm Per Second), I hope this doesn't have too much a resemblance. 5 Cm was good, but it's sort of a niche movie that I'd rather not see again.

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Yeah, I'm liking Steel Ball Run so far, but I have to admit that the stands are really weird. Not like confusing weird like that of Parts 5 and 6, but just unusual. It doesn't even seem like Araki weird. I'm only 30 chapters in, but I still think that having powers that turns everyone into dinosaurs is a bit much for me. Don't get me wrong, I sort of like it and am interested how it pulls through for Diego, but laughed really hard when I saw it for the first time. I also thought Johnny's stand was also really lame compared to previous Joestars. (shooting nails is the power? Really?) Maybe it's a way of solidifying Gyro as the main character of the series, but I thought that his stand was incredibly disappointing and underwhelming. Even in previous parts enemies had more impressive and imposing stands.

I never personally liked Fugo all that much, not because I hated him or anything, but I just felt that Part 5 really didn't do much to really make me care for Fugo as a character in my opinion. I might give Purple Haze Feedback a try, but I have so many things I need to catch up on I doubt I'm going to get to it anytime soon (I just finished Breaking Bad last week lol).

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Yeah, I'm not super interested in finishing Gamble Fish since it was sort of underwhelming, especially compared to Liar Game, but you caught my attention with Obama playing Russian Roulette. Can you refer the chapter for me lol

Every single thing Obama does in the Final Tourney arc is hilarious. I'll try to list all I can find on him:
- Chapter 102: Obama is introduced as the mysterious 8th participant. He screams YES I CAN! as his introductory declaration.
- Chapter 107: Obama "casually" uses the World Bank to provide himself with enough cash to participate in the gambling tournament.
- Chapter 112: Obama, self proclaimed King of the World (his words), uses the "Spirit of America" to CHAAAAANGE!!!! two Brazillian gambler chicks who were on the verge of having their age sucked away by the spirit of luck. I'm not even kidding; this actually happens.
- Chapter 127: Scroll all the way to the back of this chapter to find a scene where Obama's wife feels an ominous fate concerning her husband.
+*+*+*+*+Obama's Match Officially begins here. I will be mentioning highlights!*+*+*+*+*+*+
- Chapter 128: Before anything ever happens, Obama rides out on a motorcycle with his motorcade and duels revolvers with the bad guy (before the rules were explained). Also, vice-president "Baden" and other members of the staff make an appearance.
- Chapter 129: Obama's wager is if he loses, the Bad Guy's head gets added to Mount Rushmore. Hint hint: This actually happens and its later referenced in the last chapter. I'm just letting you know this because you won't be reading the end of this anyway.
- Chapter 131: Obama is on a losing streak at this point but someone inspires him to fight again. Won't spoil it. The scene ends with him saying YES I CAN and getting his groove back.
- Chapter 134: Obama requests Baden to give him an American Flag. The reason is really stupid.
- Chapter 138: The Match ends. Note the title of the Chapter and Obama's ending speech before he leaves. He is never seen again until the last chapter.

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Personally, I don't think post-timeskip One Piece is very good, but I still love One Piece so I'll follow it till the end lol. That being said, I'm wondering if I don't think post-time skip isn't very good simply because of the pacing caused by reading a single chapter each week, sort of like how I felt with Tower of God after I caught up with the updates, so tell me your thoughts after reading it.

I just finished Dressarosa. Honestly, I liked it, but only because I liked Alabasta and Dressarosa is pretty much Alabasta 2.0. Alabasta is still my favorite; Crocodile > Doflamingo and the fights were better. Dressarosa dragged for so long and I found out later that the fans were getting tired of this ending fatigue. Glad I decided to read it after the arc concluded. All in all it was just nice to see what the other pre-timeskip peeps have been up to but I agree with you that the game has significantly changed. Still, I would prefer it over the other long-running shounen simply because the Oda has a knack for remembering characters and using them when you least expect it.

And personally I just love watching Brook. He's my favorite of the crew and don't really care about the others.

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Also, Franken Fran sounds interesting, so I'll be giving that a try in the future.

IT IS. God, I just finished it. I put it off for a long time because I thought it was like a cheap gorefest. But it's actually Black Comedy and the gore isn't all that squicky because it doesn't last for a long time. My only gripe is the cop-out ending but its not like Franken Fran was ever episodic anyway; all her stories were self-contained and the most it was were 2-parters. The last few chapters weren't really that amazing anyway but I like how the author resolved every dangling character arc by the final volume. My only wish is that she had written more Franken Fran because right now her other works remain untranslated.