Quote from McRhookAccording to the Big Bang theory, this single point of all matter existed before time "started." It was just there. Then it expanded/exploded. Wait, wouldn't you need "time" for events to occur?
Quote from McRhookIf matter itself can't act outside the boundaries of time, then don't you need something or a supernatural being not bound by these things to trigger this explosion? Perhaps this Big Bang theory is actually true but it just involves divine intervention.
Quote from McRhookWhen you say that this single point of matter can do certain things outside of the laws of physics without any solid evidence, isn't that just like how religion works (unless there's evidence I'm unaware of)? There's no evidence but you believe it because it sounds convincing. Yet, we scream at each other saying that the other side is illogical and just plain stupid/ignorant/blind etc.
Quote from Xave14i will give you an a scientific example that supports the Christain belief of a young earth. the sun loses 2meters in diameter each year. if the univese was really billions of yrs old the sun would have destroyed the earth soon after the supposed big bang.
Quote from ExilementYay, a religious debate! I'll try to make this one unique.
As someone who enjoys discussing religious topics, I've noticed a common trend among most teenage atheists, and how they act online. Atheism is simply the belief that there are no gods or dieties. For some reason, it is also associated with things like science, logic, rationality and reason. "In science we trust" and all that shit.
Because of this, the trend I see is this sense of superiority over theists, as if simply believing in a god means you're incapable of logic or reason on the same level as an atheist.
I see it a lot here. It's kind of embarrassing, really. There's a very condescending attitude towards religious members, specifically Christians. Granted, I've debated with young-earth creationists who were fucking idiots, but I've also seen atheists make claims that are equally ridiculous. It's even worse because they still believe they're the representatives of "science" when they have no clue what they're talking about.
Both sides are equally convinced they're right, but atheists seem more aggressive about it. So let's let that aggression out.
My fellow atheists, what do you base your beliefs (or lack of belief) on? I'm going to play devil's advocate and play defense on the Christian team. It's your job to convince me I'm wrong and/or that you're right. Don't pull any punches, give me the best you've got, and hopefully we'll all learn something.
Quote from MikematicI was introduced to atheism because of animation. It just seems the a great amount of animators just so happened to be atheist. What I also realized is that compared to these guys i'm an idiot. Some of these guys really made me start thinking, and questioning if God truly does exist. I was raised christian, so I was meant to believe that i'm lucky to be brought up christian. Inside I know i'm christian, but my brain always just asks the same question.
"What happens after death?"
The atheist answer would be
"I don't know, and I don't care."
And the christian answer would be
"You meet with your God, and you will be judged, to go into heaven."
I know for a fact that God exists, because there is a lot of evidence that he actually does. But the only thing that i'm not sure about, is the after life. I believe Heaven does exists. But i'm not sure if the way the Bible portrays it is exactly true.
I mean dead people cant come back, to tell us that there's some type of twist. That's what i'm curious about.
And Exilement I do know what you are saying.
I did an experiment, to see whether or not you can tell who or who is not an atheist just by the way they speak. And it worked! You can! I have noticed that most atheists I have come in contact too all have generally the same attitude all the time! It's always "I'm smarter than you, and you are an idiot!"
I may be exaggerating that a little, but I think that its true. I mean they are always so sarcastic and take everything so literally. But hey, that's just my 2 cents.