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knock yourself out

Thanks Exilment.

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No. Peering into an infinite abyss would require some sort of conscious, subjective awareness of it. Wondering what "you" would experience after death makes absolutely no sense.



Actually, I do believe in reincarnation. Not in any religious sense.. but every single atom in my body was created within a star via stellar nucleosynthesis. We're all comprised of matter that existed at the beginning of time. Somehow, these atoms carry out physical processes which create the subjective narrative we call our lives. Once it ends, all of that matter continues to reside in the universe, and ultimately my physical being returns to the state it was in before I was born.. the same state that allowed my life to begin in the first place.

Even though I'll be gone, I have a hard time coming up with any reason why we won't experience this universe again after we die, as some other life form. We've already once gone from non-existence to existence, why can't that happen again after we go from existence to non-existence? What would possibly prevent that?


I'm drunk, so if this doesn't make any sense, let's blame it on that.

let's say we will one day HAVE to come back as some other form of consciousness (if time is infinite) - won't that mean that to us, it will be as if we never died? Because once we're dead we lose all perception of time, and therefore when we come back it will be as if we never left.

that's what I believe, yeah, but without memories of past lives it doesn't exactly create the illusion of immortality. your life would have had to begin under the same circumstances, after all, and I doubt you view it as part of an unending narrative.

Once we die, our brain is shut off completely by the lack of blood and oxygen that is supposed to be going back up to the brain. Of course this is caused by the heart not functioning or beating correctly or whatever. The relation between the two is vital just like i believe that the connection between us and the universe (or multiverse) is important. I'm a strong believer in the whole "there are no accidents" thing and i also believe in Jesus Christ. I think that when we die, our matter is recycled but our inner self is put somewhere else. Some call us Christians crazy for believing in heaven and hell since there is no proof of it. But may i remind you that theres also no proof against it. If it were just the matter being reused and nobody had a personality or spirit, we'd be animals. We'd have control over what were doing but we wouldnt really think about or care about it. We'd be lifeless and primitive. So when we die i think that our spirit- our core inner selves and our personalities- are taken into a different place and we are then judged (not by how good we are but by if weve accepted the Lord into our lives) to see where we will go from there.

Remember, no religious debates lol cx this is just what i have thought about and believe strongly

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But may i remind you that theres also no proof against it.

There's plenty of evidence against it, but you can't disprove something that doesn't rely on evidence in the first place.

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If it were just the matter being reused and nobody had a personality or spirit, we'd be animals. We'd have control over what were doing but we wouldnt really think about or care about it. We'd be lifeless and primitive.

I'm having a hard time understanding why you believe the brain is incapable of processing emotion and motivation without some "spirit". Those things are processed by the limbic system, most especially in the nucleus accumbens.

Both of those sections of the brain are very close to the prefrontal cortex, which carries out executive functions: "Executive function relates to abilities to differentiate among conflicting thoughts, determine good and bad, better and best, same and different, future consequences of current activities, working toward a defined goal, prediction of outcomes, expectation based on actions, and social "control""

It's just weird that you readily admit the physical brain carries out some basic actions, yet you write off the higher functions as the work of some "spirit". Scientific findings completely refute what you believe.

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Scientific findings completely refute what you believe.

Right. Even though there is nothing wrong to believe in something that you believe in, my mind works very logical so spirits, gods and heaven don't seem real to me. Doesn't it make sense to be logic about whats real and not?

Is there a god or "after world" kinda thing that one can believe in WITH scientific evidence that it exists?

You're asking for evidence of something that, by definition, transcends whatever universe we'd be obtaining evidence from. It's impossible and reduces these matters to beliefs, instead of testable hypotheses.

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You're asking for evidence of something that, by definition, transcends whatever universe we'd be obtaining evidence from. It's impossible and reduces these matters to beliefs, instead of testable hypotheses.

I see...

I think you go to some place like a good place if you were nice and made God,Allah,whatever your religion,smile upon you,you go somewhere nice.If you made Him mad,you go some where you won`t like.After The Great Ending(That`s what I call it,nothing religeos)you go to either Heaven or The Nightosphere.I`m not Christan,so don`t worry Beast210.If your bad,straghit to the nightosphere for millenia of suffering

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I think you go to some place like a good place if you were nice and made God,Allah,whatever your religion,smile upon you,you go somewhere nice.If you made Him mad,you go some where you won`t like.After The Great Ending(That`s what I call it,nothing religeos)you go to either Heaven or The Nightosphere.I`m not Christan,so don`t worry Beast210.If your bad,straghit to the nightosphere for millenia of suffering

so you just make up your religion as you go?

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the nightosphere

This dude watches Adventure Time

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remember how it was before you were conceived/born? it's kind of like that i assume

Yes.....or you just stop existing as a sentient being.

My oppinion is, as you die, the second you do, you wake up. Cause in the future, they might revive people. And possibly, they might revive you.