I'm willing to bet Benefits just didn't expect her friend to hook up with you and, despite not expecting exclusivity from you, felt betrayed or self-conscious or some other negative reaction toward the situation as soon as she heard about it, and being faced with losing her best friend despite having good intentions, her friend subconsciously altered her perspective of what happened to avoid that from happening.

Going onto fucking facebook and bitching about you publicly is ridiculous, but people can convince themselves of crazy things without being consciously aware of it. It's not necessarily deliberate and intentional manipulation on their part, don't beat yourself up over it.

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Im judged for my lack of a pretty face. Girls give me a look that says "Get away from me, you creep" upon my walking near them. Only once has a girl actually engaged in a conversation with me. She was asking me If she could cheat off me because of her lack of studying.

Or it could be that mild paranoia and self-pity aren't attractive traits.

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I'm willing to bet Benefits just didn't expect her friend to hook up with you and, despite not expecting exclusivity from you, felt betrayed or self-conscious or some other negative reaction toward the situation as soon as she heard about it, and being faced with losing her best friend despite having good intentions, her friend subconsciously altered her perspective of what happened to avoid that from happening.

Going onto fucking facebook and bitching about you publicly is ridiculous, but people can convince themselves of crazy things without being consciously aware of it. It's not necessarily deliberate and intentional manipulation on their part, don't beat yourself up over it.

Well this is a pretty good way to wrap it up. Thanks for the help. But now it's time for something new.

*Sigh* So I really doubt any of you probably scourged through my novel that I've sprinkled throughout this thread in it's phase one popularity. I myself sometimes try to go back and read what I wrote and sorta cringe. But things have come up recently that are basically a sequel to it so I'm gonna summarize what happened.

Around two years ago I met a girl named Kathryn. When I met her I didn't see her as anything more than a friend because right before her I had a girl overdose because she wasn't allowed to date me. Luckily she didn't die so I don't have that on my conscious, but the thought still keeps me in check when it comes to getting emotionally attached. Kathryn as well had a boyfriend of a year and a half and I'm not that type of person to interfere with that. However, her boyfriend was textbook bad. Drugs, bad people, bad activities, illegal stuff, disregard of her at times, you know, shit you'd probably see in movies. Well when her and I met the chemistry was just too obvious. Thing was neither of us were looking to get with each other so it all just formed naturally. Eventually she went on a break with her boyfriend and admitted to me that she had a crush on me and that supposedly I had been missing all the flirts she was firing at me throughout our friendship. Oops. Me and her met up and things happened. But then she tells her boyfriend out of guilt because "a break isn't technically breaking up." Ugh. She wasn't allowed to talk to me but eventually broke that vow because she liked me too much. After a talk we both realized it was best she break up with her boyfriend and give me a try. But then she got kicked out of the house and forced to move in with her sister in Alabama. We eventually got distant and it all faded. Mainly because she found a new guy down there.

I don't wanna come off as weak or anything, but ever since her I haven't found a single person that I felt more comfortable with and someone I felt more happy to be around. Even after all the meaningless bullshit I go through like my past few posts in this thread. But at this point I had moved on. Well then two months ago happened. My friend and I are drinking and in honesty mode. He's telling me about his ex-girlfriend and I'm talking to him about Kathryn. And somehow, we make a deal that we both should try to re-establish communication with these girls we've never felt more happy about. Before I could get back to him sober, he had already went through with his end of the bargain, so I had to find a way to talk to Kathryn. Thing was, I didn't know what to expect. We didn't really end on a good note, her and I, and I wouldn't know if she'd even want to speak to me after everything. I figured I was in a part of her life that she didn't want to go through again.

Well my friend who still talked to her relayed me her number. When I said hello, this chick just went off:

"I am so sorry for everything that's happened!!! I'm a bitch for treating you the way I did and I understand if you hate me! I would never want to talk to someone who did I what I did! Really it was so wrong and I wouldn't think you'd ever want to talk again. :("

Wow. So not only was I still on her mind, too, after all this time, but she was actually thinking the same thing that I was. Not sure if I would want to speak to her. We caught up and this came out way bigger than I realized. Kathryn still had feelings for me. Even after all the meaningless shit she went through in life, she still looks back and says that I was the most genuine and honest guy she had been with. Ugh this is all just pointless because she still lives in Alabama. I'm pondering visiting her but that's about as much as I can get out of this.

At least, that was the case until last night. Right before I fell asleep she dropped the bomb on me that her and her parents had talked and are thinking she's gonna move back into town.

Fffffffffuck. Like, this is amazing news. But I'm REALLY fucking scared that she's gonna come back and that she's not gonna wanna share a relationship with me. Which is what I really want. And I know for a fact that if that does happen, I'm not gonna take it well. I'm really not sure I'd be okay if the chick that has set my standards for what kind of girl I want was not interested in being with me because she wants to do something else with her life. So hooray for her coming back. But it comes with the fear that it could reveal that all this flirty content me and her have been sharing since she left could be entirely motivated by a "want what you can't have" mentality. If she moves back here and wants to be single, that's gonna fucking sting.

I'm afraid that most are judged by good looks.
I was blessed with being born a Tall, Strong, Smart,Athletic, Witty and Funny boy, But I didn't have the looks.
No matter what, You will be judged on your Looks or your Actions, I think it's better to be lonely. I've done it for 15 years.
And the only reason that is, is because I don't have good looks.
Sadly, That's what most girls look for, we are bound by the walls people build for us. Unless you're strong enough to break them down.
It's about confidence, I have it, I embrace my not-good looks. and I accept it.

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I'm afraid that most are judged by good looks.
I was blessed with being born a Tall, Strong, Smart,Athletic, Witty and Funny boy, But I didn't have the looks.
No matter what, You will be judged on your Looks or your Actions, I think it's better to be lonely. I've done it for 15 years.
And the only reason that is, is because I don't have good looks.
Sadly, That's what most girls look for, we are bound by the walls people build for us. Unless you're strong enough to break them down.
It's about confidence, I have it, I embrace my not-good looks. and I accept it.

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Im judged for my lack of a pretty face. Girls give me a look that says "Get away from me, you creep" upon my walking near them. Only once has a girl actually engaged in a conversation with me. She was asking me If she could cheat off me because of her lack of studying.

well, so many man who's got a girlfriend on my country, even if the man is ugly . its because 2 reason, its because they are funny, or they are rich, i think if you can make her happy with your joke or something you can cover your look, but for the man who can't be funny bro, they have to prepare money to get a girl

What do you do if you aren't any good at anything but being smart?
Do you just accept that you will be lonely forever?

No. You at least try. There are plenty of girls willing to at least pretend to like you to take advantage of your brains. You can let them do that, or you can grab a go-cart and join us. All we need now is one more member, and a baby.

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What do you do if you aren't any good at anything but being smart?
Do you just accept that you will be lonely forever?

maybe i'm just trying to make a smart joke ?, even, i doubt if she will understand my joke, but yea miracle right 'at least you try'
or if you won't try dont be smart, be awesome

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What do you do if you aren't any good at anything but being smart?
Do you just accept that you will be lonely forever?

a smart person knows how to become good at anything he chooses

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asdf

I hate to say it, but you guys don't have the slightest idea how girls work. I guess pretending that they're all stupid and selfish and dumb is a way to feel better about things, but that same mindset is probably why you're having so much trouble with girls in the first place.
Maybe working on yourselves instead of blaming others for your problems would be a better place to start.

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I hate to say it, but you guys don't have the slightest idea how girls work. I guess pretending that they're all stupid and selfish and dumb is a way to feel better about things, but that same mindset is probably why you're having so much trouble with girls in the first place.
Maybe working on yourselves instead of blaming others for your problems would be a better place to start.

agreed ,but sometime , girl act really anyyoing, changing yourself into not your-true-self

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I hate to say it, but you guys don't have the slightest idea how girls work. I guess pretending that they're all stupid and selfish and dumb is a way to feel better about things, but that same mindset is probably why you're having so much trouble with girls in the first place.
Maybe working on yourselves instead of blaming others for your problems would be a better place to start.

No devvy. The reason is exactly like I said. I'm ugly. I don't blame women for not liking me as much as I blame myself for being born like this.

It's always about you and how you look, isn't it

Grow up people.

lol this fucking thread

Okay I jsut skimmed through this thread again and deleted a few posts and gave some infracts too. This is a thread about Relationship Troubles (but really, it's more of a Sacred Is In Trouble With Luuuv Thread, whatever). If you don't have a serious question or serious advice, then don't post random bullshit like this is a romance chat thread.