Dude, girls like bold guys. Ones that aren't scared to put themselves out there and take risks. It's not a douchebag thing, it's a confidence thing that anyone can respect or be jealous of. You should literally sit next to her without an actual good reason. If she asks why you aren't sitting next to your friend, just tell her you'd rather talk to her. Honestly just go for it man. It's way better to pursue what you want and find out it's not worth it, as compared to sitting back and being stuck obsessing over something that can potentially be wasting your time.

Honestly, the girls I've formed things with in the past have told me the thing that honestly got them was not how cute I was, but just how much I put myself out there. If a girl doesn't like you after that, she's definitely not worth it bro.

Here, I'll give a perfect example. A few days ago one of my friends who was a girl informed me that her friend thought I was attractive. We scheduled a double date (one of my guy friends went with the friend that informed me) and met at the movies. I saw the girl and she was cute and she would look at me from time to time but honestly wasn't putting a lot of attention towards me since she was more or less just talking with her friends. Well only about five minutes after I introduce myself, we go into the theaters and I plop myself down right next to her. I pulled down both my arm rests and then I stop myself and say out loud "Wait a minute!" She turned to look at me, and I pulled up the arm rest between the two of us and said, "This isn't supposed to be here!" She laughed and smile. I looked her dead in the eyes for maybe about two seconds. No joke, we just started making out right on the spot and did not stop until the movie ended. Last night I asked her why she made out with me only 5 minutes after knowing me, and she said she's met cute guys before, but none of them really did anything about it when they finally met her. I was a different case because I actually had a personality and confidence. Wallah!

I'm a pretty confident guy when it comes to general conversations and shit, but when it comes to girls that I like I go into a cocoon of fear D:
I can hold a conversation well and shit but when it comes to initiating I just get too scared.

I just think she might think I'm weird if I do something like that. Plus my teacher might be like "oh hey, you've moved seats, you and your mate had a domestic?" and that would just be awkward.

Maybe I just over-think things though

It's scary until you've done it successfully.

Dont think that you're hitting on her, just ask questions until the conversation turns into something she''s really familiar with or something you're really familiar with.

Girls are fucking stupid.
Have fun, but don't ever settle. You're going to be miserable and regret it if you do.

What happened to you?

fucks sake. ive been crying for the past hour, call me a faggot, whatever.

Spoke to her on facebook, got her number. She was messaging me and seeming really interested, like 200 messages were sent with kisses and shit. Then she goes and tells me she went to the cinema last week with her GIRLFRIEND (she's bisexual). So... yeah... that sorts that one out


why does the one girl I like in one and a half years have to have a girlfriend

god hates me

I don't think you understand that you've been handed a once in a lifetime opportunity Auto. This girl is showing interest in you AND she has a girlfriend. Now all you need to do is meet this girlfriend and introduce yourself. If she enjoys your presence, then the next time the two are alone and talking (and probably also making out) they'll come to a realization that having you in the middle would be fun.

BAM! GO GET THOSE GAZELLES!

fuck relationships, fuck girls.

get it?

I did come to that realization when my friend told me ;D, I don't want to be a part of a love triangle. I'd get jealous etc. And I don't want her to split up with her girlfriend for me, that would be mean.

Best thing would be for her to stop talking to me, but she won't do that either... I guess I could tell her but that would make shit awkward. Meh, maybe I can get over her and still be friends with her, I've been friendzoned before and coped.

Haha I wasn't being totally serious, bro. But you know what would be the best thing to do in this scenario, then? Keep talking to her, and at some point joke about the fact that you liked her and then found out she has a girlfriend. Then laugh at the irony. Now, I'm not saying anything will come from it immediately, or if anything will come from it at all. But by making her aware of what's really there, you never know.

Technically she didn't zone you, she just dropped the boyfriend bomb (which in this case is called the girlfriend bomb). Truth is, that usually doesn't matter if you play your cards right. I can't predict the sexes all that well, but if a girl has a dating partner but still easily becomes friends with those of the same sex they are attracted to (which in her case is unavoidable), chances are their relationship might not be functioning 100%, and they might not even realize it. Just an example, but if a girl continuously makes new friends with boys even though she has a boyfriend, then the boyfriend might not be involved enough in her life to fill the role of the masculine portion of the girl's life. Unless they're one of those super bro chicks who just naturally become friends with boys. But those are easy to weed out.

The thing is, though, am I really prepared to go through dem feels of having to see her and be friendly with her all the time when it could amount to nothing, and if it did amount to something I'd feel like a cruel bastard towards her girlfriend.

Let's take a look at it from both perspectives then, shall we?

Scenario #1: Turns out because she has a girlfriend and is happy in a relationship, forming something with her isn't an option you want. So instead you simply befriend her. In this case you're not being friend-zoned, but rather in her life because someone else has already taken that role in her life. But the thing is, you didn't talk to her just so you could say both of you were dating and then were granted permission to do physical things. I'm sure your morals are better than that. Instead, you probably crushed on her because she was a girl you would love spending time around. Well if that's the case, do what you can for that. You'll be happy being around her because you enjoy being around her. You're going to torture and hurt you and maybe even her if you continue the mindset that you can't stand beside her as anything less than a boyfriend. The best way to put yourself is instead of drooling over a girl you already have in your head as unavailable, realize you have no reason to think that way anymore now that it's in place. That way, you can open your mind to more opportunities in the future. And now that you have a friend whose a girl (and bisexual which is bonus points) she can give you advice and insider looks on her perspective.

Scenario #2: You start to form something with her. This can branch into two sub-scenarios. The less-likely version of this would be that (as I said before!) the girls decide to put you smack dab in the middle of their lesbian relationship. Score! Now for the more realistic view. If you move in on this girl and she decides to cut ties with the girl she's dating, that shouldn't make you feel bad. If she was capable of breaking up with her girlfriend to get with you, it was bound to happen regardless. And if it was bound to happen regardless, better sooner than later when their relationship has developed more to the point where a lot of pain and anger get thrown into the mix.

There is an alternative which you seem ready to do:

Scenario #3: Ditch it completely. Never to know for certain what were to happen if you were to stick around and form at least a friendship with this girl. Instead you let your emotional side take over your logical side, an unhealthy thing us as human beings can let happen on a regular basis if we don't keep ourselves in check.

All up to you matey.

well i dont think id have a problem with scenario #1 so that sounds good, but ill have to see how i feel after seeing her a few times. We arranged to go get a coffee, and she said shes gunna write me a christmas card, which she does for barely anyone :') so either she likes me, or scenario 1 is definite.

Thanks for the advice btw, I didn't like the option of #1 until I read that