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You completely missed the point Tecness. The question is whether the crawlers were intended to have a certain ability or not. If they weren't meant to, then it's a bug. If the Archidon's aren't meant to kite, then that's a bug to (but I'm pretty sure the Archidon is meant to be able to kite just like any unit).

Imbalance is a separate issue, don't confuse the two.

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Something you don't need to know.

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Okay, that sounds like a major issue the way you describe it. Two crawlers killing one swordsman and only taking 1-2 hits of damage?

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I love how you all are screaming "totally unbalanced" about this, but you don't hear ANY chaos people complaining that Order's Archidon's can run, attack, run, attack as well, while Dead's can't. You don't see them complaining about the walls being so more useful than the tower. You don't see them complaining that their flying units are pretty bad against armored units. You don't see them complaining that their giants in a 1 vs 1 fight against an enslaved giant, gets their asses kicked. You want truly overpowered? Order as a whole is overpowered. Also, here's a tip:
ANY UNIT CAN DO THIS. It works best with crawlers because they have the fastest move speed, next to bombers.

As I've said, it's easily countered, if you know how, and here's how! DON'T RUN AWAY. Put your Archidon & Swordwrath in the same spot, and they will live.

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This is only a problem because its at the BEGINNING of the game, if they do this at the beginning then chances are they are gonna rush your base and take out your miners, and you dont see them complaining because they have everything just the way they like it, they are able to counter the archidon thing with crawlers, they are super fast and can catch them.

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THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO. But, as it is currently, with the archidon stutter step, the archidon can kill BOTH crawlers, by himself, unless using this strategy. You say "Oh chaos is overpowered, because they can kill our units with their units at the start!" Well, as I said, if both chaos and order spend their 500 on the units they can get. On MOST maps, order will win.

I know it's op, I'm the one who made this tactic. But nobody has ever asked me why.
Why did I make this tactic? To have an ACTUAL chance early game without getting a fast juggerknight, because as it currently stands, ONE swordwrath can kill TWO crawlers without control. Now, which is more op?

Now, I've told you how to counter it, I've even told several people how to do it, so stop crying, and learn how to play.

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Dude, I have played against the same guy over and over and over again, and he was chaos, he kept doing the crawler thing and he beat me every time, and I practically tried every order tactic in my book, all failed, because of the fucking crawler glitch.

The one tactic that I thought was gonna work - which was getting a castle archer and building a wall - ultimately failed, because by the time I got atleast a spearton and some archidons, he already have some juggerknights, that skull mage guy, 2 medusas, and a giant, and it because of the BEGINNING.

And if 1 swordwrath can kill 2 crawlers then you are obviously sending them sepreat, send them at the same time, and not doing that annoying crawler glitch.

Besides, you act like everyone in this game is going to be a professional, we are all not basement gamers.

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I'm not acting like everyone in the game is going to be professional, but I AM acting like someone in the top 25, like yourself, would be.

1 Swordwrath vs 2 Crawlers, no control, at the same time, the swordwrath wins. (occasionally, he will lose with a single crawler alive with very very little hp)

Let me guess what your book is, "Archidon! Archidon + Swordwrath! Castle Archer! Castle Archer + Wall! Single Swordwrath!" Am I hitting anywhere close to your "book"?

If he had over 1400 mana, and over 3000 gold in what you consider the "beginning" of the game, either you need to learn what the beginning really is, or you're hallucinating.