I feel as though chaos giants are a lot better.
If you were to surround an enslaved giant with speartons he (she?) wouldn't be able to hit the albowtross.
However, since the chaos giant does splash can't he just push through the meat shields and get up in the albowtross's face?
Your Opinion On Flying Units.
Started by: Tecness2 | Replies: 78 | Views: 6,690
Nov 25, 2012 9:19 PM #798156
Nov 26, 2012 12:58 AM #798345
Quote from Dracus94I feel as though chaos giants are a lot better.
If you were to surround an enslaved giant with speartons he (she?) wouldn't be able to hit the albowtross.
However, since the chaos giant does splash can't he just push through the meat shields and get up in the albowtross's face?
If I was the order player with a bunch of Speartans and albatrosses, I would just keep my Speartans at my base and kite his giants with my albatross.
Nov 26, 2012 3:18 AM #798498
Back on the main topic. Opinions on flying units.
Nov 26, 2012 9:58 AM #798705
albowtross isnt overpowered.they have slightly less range, attack rate than archidon. i met one with a hit and run tech. using archidon with flaming arrows
Nov 27, 2012 5:53 AM #799549
Albowtrosses can kite with their low speed? It will make most of the units to catch up them except for the melee ones that is the only one Chaos Giant.
Nov 29, 2012 11:55 PM #802176
Lets bring this to Chess Terms! Shall we?
King = Statue
Queen = Giant(Chaos)
Bishop = Monk
Knight = Archidon
Rook = Dead
Pawn = Swordwrath
With that being said (I'll explain my choices of units if you ask :p), chess is the most (or close to it) balanced game people play today. Why? Because both sides have the same units, as well as EACH UNIT BEING ABLE TO ATTACK EVERY OTHER UNIT.
While the king in this case can't attack, it can get castle archers, so kinda can :p
Now, with all those pieces in play, lets take out ONE pawn for each side, and add a unit only the Knight, Rook, & Queen can attack, but can attack any other unit. So now, we have 30 units that can be attacked by every unit, and can attack every unit but 2, as well as have 2 units that can only be attacked by 6. And people continue to say flying units are balanced?
King = Statue
Queen = Giant(Chaos)
Bishop = Monk
Knight = Archidon
Rook = Dead
Pawn = Swordwrath
With that being said (I'll explain my choices of units if you ask :p), chess is the most (or close to it) balanced game people play today. Why? Because both sides have the same units, as well as EACH UNIT BEING ABLE TO ATTACK EVERY OTHER UNIT.
While the king in this case can't attack, it can get castle archers, so kinda can :p
Now, with all those pieces in play, lets take out ONE pawn for each side, and add a unit only the Knight, Rook, & Queen can attack, but can attack any other unit. So now, we have 30 units that can be attacked by every unit, and can attack every unit but 2, as well as have 2 units that can only be attacked by 6. And people continue to say flying units are balanced?
Nov 30, 2012 11:33 AM #802549
Quote from Tecness2Lets bring this to Chess Terms! Shall we?
King = Statue
Queen = Giant(Chaos)
Bishop = Monk
Knight = Archidon
Rook = Dead
Pawn = Swordwrath
With that being said (I'll explain my choices of units if you ask :p), chess is the most (or close to it) balanced game people play today. Why? Because both sides have the same units, as well as EACH UNIT BEING ABLE TO ATTACK EVERY OTHER UNIT.
While the king in this case can't attack, it can get castle archers, so kinda can :p
Now, with all those pieces in play, lets take out ONE pawn for each side, and add a unit only the Knight, Rook, & Queen can attack, but can attack any other unit. So now, we have 30 units that can be attacked by every unit, and can attack every unit but 2, as well as have 2 units that can only be attacked by 6. And people continue to say flying units are balanced?
Well let's just put it this way...the albowtross have relatively low health, 2 hit from giant and they're gone while swordwrath can handle 2.5, they're slow as a hustled miner, a bit faster than giant which mean if they can be attack by all units they're screwed. Eclipsor they have less heath and attack is a bit more powerful than archer, weaker than albowtross with blazing bolt but they have the speed (firerate also better but i don't want to talk about that atm)...but, if attacked by spearton they share the same fate as archer....the only thing i want to make a few tweaks at is to slightly increase eclipsor training time and mana...
Dec 1, 2012 11:27 PM #803910
CRAZYJAY, the chaos empire states how wingidons (or perhaps eclipsores) have wind storm. Without windstorm, what is so special about them besides the fact that they are just like archidons except faster yet weaker?
Dec 1, 2012 11:36 PM #803925
Quote from HaDiXxCRAZYJAY, the chaos empire states how wingidons (or perhaps eclipsores) have wind storm. Without windstorm, what is so special about them besides the fact that they are just like archidons except faster yet weaker?
Well, that was too op, so was removed.
They do more damage and have more health, as well are faster than Archidons.
Dec 1, 2012 11:43 PM #803934
Tec, albotrosses are actually to op. 2-3 of them can quickly kill a spearton, and, they can EASILY kill eclipsors, with or without Flaming Arrows (Albotross)
Dec 2, 2012 2:12 AM #804119
Quote from m0ntanaTec, albotrosses are actually to op. 2-3 of them can quickly kill a spearton, and, they can EASILY kill eclipsors, with or without Flaming Arrows (Albotross)
uh mate albowtross is much more expensive comepare to eclipsor and cost 4 pop not 3 so of course they're stronger with or without the blazing bolt
and hell, i just beat the campaign on normal lol
Dec 2, 2012 2:35 AM #804147
Actually, they are 100 mana apart.
Dec 2, 2012 3:11 AM #804211
Quote from m0ntanaActually, they are 100 mana apart.
They cost 50 more gold, 100 more mana and 1 more pop, of course the albowtross must be stronger than the eclipsor...except the damage and health, the albowtross is weaker in everyway (ex: can't be mass fast, move slowwwer than a swordwrath or archer while the eclipsor move faster and can be mass very fast)...so... albowtross is still not overpowered, i tried to mass albowtross a few times and the guy massing giant always win no matter i have the meatshields or not....same thing with albowtross mass vs eclipsor mass and many other stuff....hell, even spearton beat them by attack the statue (no to 2 castle archers of course)...lol
Dec 4, 2012 2:59 AM #806502
If a chaos giant would approach an eclipsor, or an albowtross, would the chaos giant be able to hit? I'm not sure because they are not ranged.
Dec 4, 2012 3:11 AM #806516
Quote from HaDiXxIf a chaos giant would approach an eclipsor, or an albowtross, would the chaos giant be able to hit? I'm not sure because they are not ranged.
Chaos giants can hit flying units