Massing One Type Of Unit.

Can this be nerfed? I mean sure, mass crawlers, they get a bonus to an extent, but after say, 20 crawlers, can their stats be reduced? I'm tired of facing killean and I know exactly what he's going to do. Get two swordwrath, get rage, all at the same time! Mass about 8 swordwrath, kill all your miners and run away. IF that doesn't work, he'll then build ONE spearton and about, 12 archers. Then more archers, and more archers, until he can almost one shot a spearton with so many archers he has. Can this be nerfed? Like, if ONE type of unit takes up 70% of the TOTAL population, their health is decreased, as well as damage or something. Tis a piss off sometimes.

Like giants? XD wait your saying that crawlers stack up more than 5 times?
Edit. My opinion is that you shouldn't get a decrease for massing one type of unit :( Some of my strategies include: massing either speartons, ninjas or archers...

>.> sorry for double posting, but you keep editing my posts....

Quote from DragonFrost

Like giants? XD wait your saying that crawlers stack up more than 5 times?
Edit. My opinion is that you shouldn't get a decrease for massing one type of unit :( Some of my strategies include: massing either speartons, ninjas or archers...

I don't mean massing like 10 of them, I mean massing like 20+ of them.
No, they don't stack over 5.

Also, sorry about editing your post, I fixed it :p I pressed the wrong button.

Hehe yeah that is kinda annoying.
But no, I don't think there should be a stat decrease.

Its annoying to me too. The people who masses swordwraths killed my fully upgraded giants quickly. And he also overwhelm my army and kill my magikill just when I am casting spells, so annoying that my castle archers are too late to kill them when he is destroying my statue, but that time if I called albowtross its the same effect like castle archers and because he is the flying unit that can't block like spearton or even swordwrath.

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Can this be nerfed? I mean sure, mass crawlers, they get a bonus to an extent, but after say, 20 crawlers, can their stats be reduced? I'm tired of facing killean and I know exactly what he's going to do. Get two swordwrath, get rage, all at the same time! Mass about 8 swordwrath, kill all your miners and run away. IF that doesn't work, he'll then build ONE spearton and about, 12 archers. Then more archers, and more archers, until he can almost one shot a spearton with so many archers he has. Can this be nerfed? Like, if ONE type of unit takes up 70% of the TOTAL population, their health is decreased, as well as damage or something. Tis a piss off sometimes.

Don't allow him to build up to that much, need to presure him more, and also if someone makes 20 archers and 1 spearton then just counter it with all speartons, or ninjas or a million other possibilities.
Massing one type of unit is not an advantage in that situation, If somone is going mass into one unit type, they are disadvantaged somewhere else. Plus if you know what hes going to do everytime, then why not just counter it easly with all speartons/shadowrath/deads/ spearton/archer/ ect ect

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Its annoying to me too. The people who masses swordwraths killed my fully upgraded giants quickly. And he also overwhelm my army and kill my magikill just when I am casting spells, so annoying that my castle archers are too late to kill them when he is destroying my statue, but that time if I called albowtross its the same effect like castle archers and because he is the flying unit that can't block like spearton or even swordwrath.

You lost because the magikill casting spell speed is too slow! i think the casting speed should be faster (maybe as same as medusa)

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Don't allow him to build up to that much, need to presure him more, and also if someone makes 20 archers and 1 spearton then just counter it with all speartons, or ninjas or a million other possibilities.
Massing one type of unit is not an advantage in that situation, If somone is going mass into one unit type, they are disadvantaged somewhere else. Plus if you know what hes going to do everytime, then why not just counter it easly with all speartons/shadowrath/deads/ spearton/archer/ ect ect

I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. If I could have, I would have.
And that's not always true. Massing all deads with poison, as you have done against me once, has no great counter against it.
Because he does all this within the first 3 minutes, because of the fact, he can put both miners on the statue, for 20 seconds(ish), while building two swordwrath, and also research rage(which that early, is overpowered). By the time he's done researching rage, he has 5 swordwrath.
I start with archer + swordwrath, he goes double sword and rage. I start with double sword, he just runs past my swordwrath and kills a miner. This also has no great counter, except copying the build itself

I used to be able to kick his ass using a track pad, now I can't even compete against him using a mouse (yes, big difference).

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So this thread was started thanks to kilean? But as crazy jay said, if you mass one type of unit, you have a disadvantage somewhere else. example, mass archers, meat shields + mages, right?
P.S. congratulations on becoming a mod.

A lot of my threads are from personal experience, we are afterall, beta-testers, so what better way to test, then to play?
Okay, I want someone to tell me a great counter to...say, 30 archidons, on the grass hills(the largest) map. This is more than enough to one shot a spearton, as order.
A counter to 20 deads with poison, as either.
A counter to 20 Wingadons. (6 can kill an un-upgraded statue within 15 seconds(I think)), as chaos
A counter to 11 enslaved giants or normal giants, as order.
Go go go.

Thanks.

You can beat that build if you go archers.

or wall and castle archer.

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A lot of my threads are from personal experience, we are afterall, beta-testers, so what better way to test, then to play?
Okay, I want someone to tell me a great counter to...say, 30 archidons, on the grass hills(the largest) map. This is more than enough to one shot a spearton, as order.
A counter to 20 deads with poison, as either.
A counter to 20 Wingadons. (6 can kill an un-upgraded statue within 15 seconds(I think)), as chaos
A counter to 11 enslaved giants or normal giants, as order.
Go go go.

Thanks.

Counters :
1. 20 Deads (poison)
have 2-3 giants with 5+ archers and 3+ monks with cure spell

2.20 Wingadons
maximum castle archer upgrade, with some albowtrosses

3.11 Giants
get a spearton and run pass through giants and kill miners until none of em are left. they will be forced to retreat but will still remain strong(in time your spearton are attacking their miners, build 2 walls and ninjas shinobi poisoning

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Counters :
1. 20 Deads (poison)
have 2-3 giants with 5+ archers and 3+ monks with cure spell

2.20 Wingadons
maximum castle archer upgrade, with some albowtrosses

3.11 Giants
get a spearton and run pass through giants and kill miners until none of em are left. they will be forced to retreat but will still remain strong(in time your spearton are attacking their miners, build 2 walls and ninjas shinobi poisoning

Your giants would be dead too quickly, if the person focused fire, but it may work.
That's not going to stop them, just, keep them away from a short amount of time while he gets a meatshield to attract your castle archer, then 4 shot your statue.
HE WON'T NEED MINERS HE HAS OVER 16500 GOLD. BY THE TIME YOU KILLED HIS SINGLE MINER(he can only have 1 miner with 11 giants) Your statue would be dead.