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Dec 15, 2012 12:15 AM #817328
I believe the Death Penalty should be allowed. My dad works as a Corrections Officer. His prison is nearly full and will continue to fill up at increasingly fast rates. Megan Kanka was raped and killed nearly 20 years ago, and her killer is rotting away in prison. He's 72 and not allowed to talk, see,or be near any other inmates.
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Dec 15, 2012 1:22 AM #817409
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I'd rather be dead. Who the hell would want to sit in prison until the day they die, stuck in a cramped shit hole full of people that society has deemed unfit to walk the streets.


If you're in prison for life you can opt for suicide. If you're sentenced to death there's only so much you can do to delay it. And the vast majority of people do do what they can to delay it. The reason that the death penalty is so much more expensive than life imprisonment is the long appeals process. If being in prison is so much worse than death why do the condemned prisoners appeal?
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Dec 15, 2012 9:47 AM #817844
For me NO. If Death Penalty is allowed right now, some family (of the innocent being killed in death penalty) will be mourning right now.

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If you're in prison for life you can opt for suicide. If you're sentenced to death there's only so much you can do to delay it. And the vast majority of people do do what they can to delay it. The reason that the death penalty is so much more expensive than life imprisonment is the long appeals process. If being in prison is so much worse than death why do the condemned prisoners appeal?


Zed, you have point of delaying death but there is still nothing you could do even though it will be delayed you will be killed, plus suicide is a very bad mortal sin to GOD(if you are Christian because i don't know what's Britannia's religion).
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Dec 15, 2012 9:43 PM #818450
I actually believe in the Death Penalty.
In our posh England, people get TV,s in their jail room with Xbox's and the prisoners exchange games. My mum went to the prison and the prisoner said its like a free holiday and its brilliant. Im just gonna keep comitting crimes after I get out.
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Dec 15, 2012 10:47 PM #818498
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I actually believe in the Death Penalty.
In our posh England, people get TV,s in their jail room with Xbox's and the prisoners exchange games. My mum went to the prison and the prisoner said its like a free holiday and its brilliant. Im just gonna keep comitting crimes after I get out.

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Xbox.......
*does crime and turns himself in*
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Dec 15, 2012 10:54 PM #818501
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If you're in prison for life you can opt for suicide. If you're sentenced to death there's only so much you can do to delay it. And the vast majority of people do do what they can to delay it. The reason that the death penalty is so much more expensive than life imprisonment is the long appeals process. If being in prison is so much worse than death why do the condemned prisoners appeal?


From my experience, they put anyone who tries and fails to commit suicide on watch to make sure that they don't succeed the next time. The reason most people cling to life is because they're afraid of death, or simply the pain of dying. They just end up delaying the inevitable and spending the last years of their lives rotting in jail because they're terrified of getting it over with quickly, thereby costing us money to keep them alive until they die by themselves. Life imprisonment might as well be a death sentence, but we act like we're throwing them a bone just because we're not the ones that kill them.
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Dec 29, 2012 9:55 AM #833359
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Life imprisonment might as well be a death sentence, but we act like we're throwing them a bone just because we're not the ones that kill them.


Thats putting a veil of legality over the sentence
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Dec 30, 2012 10:54 AM #834696
I am new here and will not bother reading these 13 pages of text (forgive me!), but if anyone is interested, I rest here my opinion:

The death penalty is good for murderers with intent.

If criminal X has been planning out a string of murders for the past six months, and then goes out and kills a bunch of people, and he is sane, he deserves the death penalty.

If regular citizen Z had a knife by him, and in a fit of rage, killed someone he was arguing with, then he deserves the death penalty.

By man-slaughter is not murder. Man-slaughter is unintentionally and without malice, usually. This type of killing needs to be punished to an extent, but the death penalty, or a lifetime in prison are not the ways to do it.

Accidents happen. I spill my water bottle, and there is no retribution.

I accidentally kill someone, and now I face serious damage.

But why? The intent on my part was the same for both, yet the outcomes were different. I do not believe there is a God, nor is there such thing as karma (read very bottom of post for my view on karma, if you want). And so, I don't think that because I killed someone, I deserve to die. The family is surely angry and demands some sort of revenge or retribution, but really, I am at no blame here. It would be unreasonable to punish me severely.

This is an entirely different case if, say, I was drinking while driving, not paying attention while driving, not being careful while using a gun, etc. This needs to be punished because, 1) if not, people will stop having to worry about being wary and attentive, and 2) because not being careful is not a good enough excuse. However, because slip-ups can happen, punishment shouldn't be serious; perhaps a hefty fine or a bout in prison would be reasonable.


KARMA:

Karma does not exist. Society just awards good deeds well, and punishes bad deeds justly. Karma, in a way, occurs through society, but it isn't constant or eternal. It does not stalk and keep track of you, making sure retribution is served.
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Dec 30, 2012 2:22 PM #834836
Death penalty should only be carried out when someone has been given a second chance over and over again but yet they failed to change their ways. Then and only then it is justified. Issuing a death penalty to serial killer is only giving them the easy way out.
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Dec 31, 2012 1:08 PM #836303
That is a good opinion because some criminlas want to change their ways. They dont want to waste their life in a prison cell
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Dec 31, 2012 7:02 PM #836736
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Death penalty should only be carried out when someone has been given a second chance over and over again but yet they failed to change their ways. Then and only then it is justified. Issuing a death penalty to serial killer is only giving them the easy way out.


What about when we're running out of rooms in our prisons? Where it's costing us millions to keep the people we sentenced to life in prison alive and kicking before they inevitably die either way? I say we just go ahead and give them the chair, or a lethal injection, or whatever's in place at the time. It clears up space and saves money, they threw away any moral leniency they would get when they did something that would be deemed worthy of death in the first place.
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Dec 31, 2012 8:01 PM #836794
Well, we are all gonna die so who cares
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Jan 1, 2013 11:00 AM #837631
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It clears up space and saves money,


It doesn't save money. It costs several times more to execute someone than to keep them imprisoned because of the lengthy appeals process. In terms of space, I have to assume the vast majority of criminals would not be eligible for the death penalty so you wouldn't get much benefit. Better to build bigger prisons. Or do something less extreme to reduce the number of prisoners, like decriminalising drugs or more emphasis on rehabilitation.
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Jan 1, 2013 12:07 PM #837686
but why, Zed, surely it is expensive to keep someone in prison, thats what our taxes go to. But why pay for somebody to be executed.
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Jan 1, 2013 1:07 PM #837722
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty

It's mostly the appeals process to try to make sure you're not killing an innocent person.
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