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Apr 30, 2015 5:00 PM #1355590
It's boring when there aren't no top players that rank.
Apr 30, 2015 7:34 PM #1355608
Quote from HashBrownTrialsIt's boring when there aren't no top players that rank.
Sorry but I have exams and the top players probably do as well.
You're ranking in the worst part of the year right now for children based demographics.
Apr 30, 2015 8:04 PM #1355611
"Right, I forgot about the air. I don't know what you mean by target capabilities. If you're talking about how long it takes for it to switch targets, well let me explain. The air starts the attack animation when it goes in range right? But if you switch targets right when it starts the animation, the animation will restart, and you won't do any damage. It is very easy to avoid this, before the air gets in range and starts the animation, target the unit you want to hit like a meric for example. Then when it does get in range and start the animation it will target the meric."
That was not a point a covered, but thank you for mentioning it all the same. Reread my arrow vs bolt statement.
"Now, let me explain why the air is so good. When a unit like an, archer for example, gets into an air's range, it starts it's attack animation right? When it starts the animation, no matter how far the archer goes, the bolt will still hit the archer. Now 3 bolts will insta-kill an archer, if you have 3 airs and you target the archer, you will insta-kill the archer before your enemy has any time to react, then you retreat. You can use airs to great effect if you just practice with them (which I highly doubt you did). "
Yeah, and that's about it. If they have enough archers, your airs get overwhelmed in a head-on battle. If they have enough archers, they can kite your retreating airs. I have used airs a lot, whether you believe me or not.
"I think you misinterpreted many of the ele units uses. First, you are seriously expecting too much from water. Old water healed around 40% hp or more when the charrog was taking damage. Water should not be able to heal that much when you are taking damage from CA, mage etc. That kind of ability should be left to order. You don't need an op water to break turtles anyway, if you change all your low hp units to infernos and charrogs, I find that combo works pretty well. "
Well, you've already admitted you were wrong.
"Second, the cycloid. Your argument about the cycloid is pathetic. "Cycloids are a melee unit, they are a combat unit, derp" Are you serious? Anyways, V can do melee, does that mean it's a combat unit? Cycloid melee is shit to nothing, it sucks as a combat unit, I suppose that's why you're all saying it's weak. Protect wasn't nerfed hard, it still has it's benefits. Tornado missing is because you can't aim, if you aim for the shadows under the wings or any flying unit in general, it will prove more accurate. Cycloid is going to be defending the fires and going ahead of them, but it won't be rushing like mad. Also keep in mind you have charrogs. Cycloids are as good of an air tank as you can get. Yes fires will get out-ranged, but you can use charrogs + cycloid to drive them into the chaos base, then you can burn everthing."
No, it is your argument that is pathetic. V has other abilities like clone, posses. Cycloid only has melee + useless tornado. Protect was nerfed hard, just like your water statements you are in denial. Tornado can hit with precision, but it generally doesn't get what you're aiming for. Plus it's weak as hell. The problem with cycloid is that it is rushing like mad. That's why wall renders it useless. Yeah yeah, hold is there, but then cycloid is hardly doing anything. It has to be attacking and driving the other air units off, but it must have good health to do so. Which it doesn't. Further, you're acting like elementals will have a much higher amount of resources than the other troops. Charrog + Cycloid is one of the most stupid combos I have heard of. Just wall will provide enough to stop them. And even with this, you won't have much of the other troops, like fires. You're acting like opponent hardly has any troops at all to kill your cycloids, and then charrog/fire, which is also kind of pointless.
"Airs will get picked off yes, but only if you're stupid enough not to have a tank."
Ever heard of spells? Also, tanks such as charrogs get killed super fast mid-late game, especially with the water nerf. Cycloid isn't a tank. Not to mention, the other empire can easily afford ground units as well.
"Ninja: cycloid protect.
wall: inferno
Medusa: That's why you keep them safe.
Marrowkai: Yes it will reap tankers, but only one at a time.
Wall + magikill: CHinferno + water."
Again, you seem to think elemental will have a much greater quantity of resources than the opponent. They are buying cheap/necessary units for their gameplay, you have to go out of your way to break your strategy for the counter, and ruining formation.
Water = useless.
Inferno : Shadow.
That's why you keep them safe. What the fuck?
Yes it will reap tankers, but only one at a time. Only? Plus, marrowkai > V.
etc, my first point pretty much covers it.
"Also, CHfire gets rid of turrets and wings. Cycloid, and earth can keep the medusa from spellcasting, besides the chaos player is usually burnt to a crisp before they can pump out spellcasters (which usually happens around 6:00). I doubt you will reply anyway."
Cycloid + Earth keeps medusa away? Yeah, like the opponent totally isn't going to have other units to stop it. Medusa > Cycloid btw. No, chaos is not burnt to a crisp, you seem to think gameplay revolves around head to head attacks. You doubt I will reply anyway? Haha, that's why you said you will probably reply again. Your snide comments are terrible.
Basically, your solution for most things is to make a cycloid.
That was not a point a covered, but thank you for mentioning it all the same. Reread my arrow vs bolt statement.
"Now, let me explain why the air is so good. When a unit like an, archer for example, gets into an air's range, it starts it's attack animation right? When it starts the animation, no matter how far the archer goes, the bolt will still hit the archer. Now 3 bolts will insta-kill an archer, if you have 3 airs and you target the archer, you will insta-kill the archer before your enemy has any time to react, then you retreat. You can use airs to great effect if you just practice with them (which I highly doubt you did). "
Yeah, and that's about it. If they have enough archers, your airs get overwhelmed in a head-on battle. If they have enough archers, they can kite your retreating airs. I have used airs a lot, whether you believe me or not.
"I think you misinterpreted many of the ele units uses. First, you are seriously expecting too much from water. Old water healed around 40% hp or more when the charrog was taking damage. Water should not be able to heal that much when you are taking damage from CA, mage etc. That kind of ability should be left to order. You don't need an op water to break turtles anyway, if you change all your low hp units to infernos and charrogs, I find that combo works pretty well. "
Well, you've already admitted you were wrong.
"Second, the cycloid. Your argument about the cycloid is pathetic. "Cycloids are a melee unit, they are a combat unit, derp" Are you serious? Anyways, V can do melee, does that mean it's a combat unit? Cycloid melee is shit to nothing, it sucks as a combat unit, I suppose that's why you're all saying it's weak. Protect wasn't nerfed hard, it still has it's benefits. Tornado missing is because you can't aim, if you aim for the shadows under the wings or any flying unit in general, it will prove more accurate. Cycloid is going to be defending the fires and going ahead of them, but it won't be rushing like mad. Also keep in mind you have charrogs. Cycloids are as good of an air tank as you can get. Yes fires will get out-ranged, but you can use charrogs + cycloid to drive them into the chaos base, then you can burn everthing."
No, it is your argument that is pathetic. V has other abilities like clone, posses. Cycloid only has melee + useless tornado. Protect was nerfed hard, just like your water statements you are in denial. Tornado can hit with precision, but it generally doesn't get what you're aiming for. Plus it's weak as hell. The problem with cycloid is that it is rushing like mad. That's why wall renders it useless. Yeah yeah, hold is there, but then cycloid is hardly doing anything. It has to be attacking and driving the other air units off, but it must have good health to do so. Which it doesn't. Further, you're acting like elementals will have a much higher amount of resources than the other troops. Charrog + Cycloid is one of the most stupid combos I have heard of. Just wall will provide enough to stop them. And even with this, you won't have much of the other troops, like fires. You're acting like opponent hardly has any troops at all to kill your cycloids, and then charrog/fire, which is also kind of pointless.
"Airs will get picked off yes, but only if you're stupid enough not to have a tank."
Ever heard of spells? Also, tanks such as charrogs get killed super fast mid-late game, especially with the water nerf. Cycloid isn't a tank. Not to mention, the other empire can easily afford ground units as well.
"Ninja: cycloid protect.
wall: inferno
Medusa: That's why you keep them safe.
Marrowkai: Yes it will reap tankers, but only one at a time.
Wall + magikill: CHinferno + water."
Again, you seem to think elemental will have a much greater quantity of resources than the opponent. They are buying cheap/necessary units for their gameplay, you have to go out of your way to break your strategy for the counter, and ruining formation.
Water = useless.
Inferno : Shadow.
That's why you keep them safe. What the fuck?
Yes it will reap tankers, but only one at a time. Only? Plus, marrowkai > V.
etc, my first point pretty much covers it.
"Also, CHfire gets rid of turrets and wings. Cycloid, and earth can keep the medusa from spellcasting, besides the chaos player is usually burnt to a crisp before they can pump out spellcasters (which usually happens around 6:00). I doubt you will reply anyway."
Cycloid + Earth keeps medusa away? Yeah, like the opponent totally isn't going to have other units to stop it. Medusa > Cycloid btw. No, chaos is not burnt to a crisp, you seem to think gameplay revolves around head to head attacks. You doubt I will reply anyway? Haha, that's why you said you will probably reply again. Your snide comments are terrible.
Basically, your solution for most things is to make a cycloid.
Apr 30, 2015 8:28 PM #1355613
Quote from HashBrownTrialsIt's boring when there aren't no top players that rank.
I was gonna rank you but not if there were going to be lag screens thrown around. Sorry, just not worth it for me.
May 1, 2015 12:56 AM #1355691
There are a lot of things I'd like to say as many of your statements are incorrect. But as you play DM and I don't think I can persuade you, it would be unwise to continue this discussion especially after my blunder with the water. Without heal, everything I said is pretty much invalid.
P.S. When I said "I doubt you will reply" that was aimed at mystery.
P.S. When I said "I doubt you will reply" that was aimed at mystery.
May 1, 2015 1:13 AM #1355697
Quote from nutsophastThere are a lot of things I'd like to say as many of your statements are incorrect. But as you play DM and I don't think I can persuade you, it would be unwise to continue this discussion especially after my blunder with the water. Without heal, everything I said is pretty much invalid.
I don't only play DM. Not that rating matters, but as a general source of reference, my rating in classic is 2k and I main ele. I quit playing DM frequently long ago. In essence, I'm glad to see you're admitting you're wrong.
May 1, 2015 11:02 AM #1355841
Quote from SkeletonxfSorry but I have exams and the top players probably do as well.
You're ranking in the worst part of the year right now for children based demographics.
Don't you think I don't have exams? Because I do, but I still manage to find time even if it isn't a lot.
May 1, 2015 11:27 AM #1355844
And why are you mad at skele? You know this is the time when people are busy. Your anger doesn't make sense.
May 1, 2015 12:32 PM #1355855
Quote from _Ai_And why are you mad at skele? You know this is the time when people are busy. Your anger doesn't make sense.
Does it sound like I'm angry? Lol.
I guess that's how you interpreted tone, didn't want for that to happen.
May 1, 2015 2:16 PM #1355878
Quote from HashBrownTrialsDon't you think I don't have exams? Because I do, but I still manage to find time even if it isn't a lot.
Then clearly my exams take up more time than yours.
May 1, 2015 3:13 PM #1355884
Quote from SkeletonxfThen clearly my exams take up more time than yours.
Depends how you want to manage your time :P
May 1, 2015 3:23 PM #1355886
how do i cancel a membership? O.o do you guys know?
May 1, 2015 4:39 PM #1355892
Quote from xxspikehow do i cancel a membership? O.o do you guys know?
Why would you want to cancel it?
May 1, 2015 4:57 PM #1355894
Quote from HashBrownTrialsDepends how you want to manage your time :P
Okay, clearly I'm just more busy than you in general
Quote from xxspikehow do i cancel a membership? O.o do you guys know?
Log into paypal and cancel from there.
May 1, 2015 6:08 PM #1355901
Quote from SkeletonxfOkay, clearly I'm just more busy than you in general
Log into paypal and cancel from there.
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