So I figured out what the tower spawn'd unit for Elementals is.

No growth?

Actually pissed on the fact I can't log in. I was at the cafe for a whole 2 hours, and can't play SE, which was my purpose in coming there. Going to a cafe costs money you know.

Spent the time there playing LoL. Soo nooby xD

I just figure out that elementals is not that op at all in my mind :/

I even lose to a 1400s with elementals....

the V is just too weak that it costs very much, but can be one hit killed by ninja lol

and I feel really easy to beat elementals lol

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so you're ok that on short maps elementals can buy an air elemental that has the speed of a shadowrath, an unblockable attack, and that the only unit capable of being produced early that can touch it is an archidon that costs only 100 less, cant fly, is weaker and is slower than the air elemental meanwhile the opponent can build a miner that has a stun as a default can transform at any time into a miner so you can simply produce a bunch of earth elementals short map and attack my units and eco and then retreat and turn back into miners without any sort of real damage done to their units.
then water elementals that can chain freeze rendering speartons useless seeing as by the time they unfreeze an earth elemental or two is directly next to it to chain stun letting the water elemental cooldown enough to freeze again whilst the E.E's change into miners wasting your 450 and 50 mana. fire elementals have a poisonish attack without research and are fast as hell.
not to mention that the units combine to make even more variety of units that have their own individual upgrades (tree and scorplings) the mentioned has an attack like the reaper spell in the fact that it chases down the unit no matter the range and heals the tree that already has massive health as it is. then the lava golem thing has armor an aoe effect a burn effect along with that and is a tower spawn.
really? a tower spawn with an ability of after damage. the v is stupid. a combination of all4 e's to have the ability to take over a unit or split into other units. which is kinda op and underpowered as well.
a shadowrath... when will you have time to get it close enough with units that have a stun and a freeze running around everywhere?
the combined air melee thing is weird and underpowered without assistance. havent played against the flaming woman unit yet.
plz excuse the lack of knowledge on the names of units.

in all. the elemental empire has a way to go b4 it should be considered balanced yet. hope crazy jay and them fix them soon

I agree with the fact that elementals have good spells

but elementals have many troubles as well
the combination of units cannot be completed by hotkeys and must selected with mouse
and the earth element has to be transformed to miner one by one

Also, all units of elementals are very low and without armor except the blue meat shield(forgot his name)

even worse, the spells of elementals are casted too slow and too easy to dodge. The fire dragon and meteor strike are weak and slow, which are useless indeed

The worst thing is the most expensive unit of elementals : V
Only three bars of health, low attack power, no armor, 1350 gold + 100mana + 10population
but can be instant killed by ninja and medusa
I have a test using 1vs1 of medusa and V, and the control spell of V is just slower than stone cast, so V would die first and is useless ....

So up till now I still don't think elementals have any advantages over other two empires at all, except the air elements

I played 10 games of OvE today, and I won 9 times with order, which sounds weird

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I agree with the fact that elementals have good spells

but elementals have many troubles as well
the combination of units cannot be completed by hotkeys and must selected with mouse
and the earth element has to be transformed to miner one by one

Also, all units of elementals are very low and without armor except the blue meat shield(forgot his name)

even worse, the spells of elementals are casted too slow and too easy to dodge. The fire dragon and meteor strike are weak and slow, which are useless indeed

The worst thing is the most expensive unit of elementals : V
Only three bars of health, low attack power, no armor, 1350 gold + 100mana + 10population
but can be instant killed by ninja and medusa
I have a test using 1vs1 of medusa and V, and the control spell of V is just slower than stone cast, so V would die first and is useless ....

So up till now I still don't think elementals have any advantages over other two empires at all, except the air elements

I played 10 games of OvE today, and I won 9 times with order, which sounds weird

The V can teleport, so the medusa and the shadowrath can't reach it.
The V can control units, so it will counter mages
It can clone itslef

Personaly I like V From order V Elementals V can be good for taking control of pesky units and then teleporting out of there. I think that V is very cool but was not made right to be consider a good warrior!

Wait what, I didnt understand the first part? You like V order then V elementals? Im confused?

For me, V needs supporting units just like magikill

They shouldn't be the main attack force

V is weak against infantries

And that is reasonable for shinibo to one hit kill V cuz V is damned OP if he has the same health like medusa, he can control your units without worrying about dying quick, if you see a ninja going to assassinate you, just teleport away...

p.s. element is hard to beat if you know how to use (micro) it

Well... tree ants are completely OP

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isn't spawning a scorpion cost 30 mana? Why there is a large scale manufacturing without costing any resources?
I would suggest costing 15 mana per scorpion

And... two health bars scorpions... way too OP
if there is an upgrade for those scorpion it should be more expensive, like 400G 400Mana

EvE is a game of rock-paper-scissors.

You can miner mass, but tree-scrops will beat out your miners. Then you can air unit start to beat the tree, but the opponent can then just miner mass with castle air to oppose it.

May the odds be ever in your favor.

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EvE is a game of rock-paper-scissors.

You can miner mass, but tree-scrops will beat out your miners. Then you can air unit start to beat the tree, but the opponent can then just miner mass with castle air to oppose it.

May the odds be ever in your favor.

Don't mind him. He's a little upset over all the rating he lost. His experience so far with using elementals has amounted to about 6 games of trying to figure out how to tree start. He is still unable to do so properly/

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Don't mind him. He's a little upset over all the rating he lost. His experience so far with using elementals has amounted to about 6 games of trying to figure out how to tree start. He is still unable to do so properly/

oh...poor wyzdm :/ hope he get better...
Also, seems like elementals are pretty good in short maps ^_^ this tree and scorpion spam is pretty amazing, and for me also bit OP.
So as Azxc already suggested, I think scorpions should cost some mana.
But generaly, elementals looks awesome ^_^

Any elemental players here? I haven't encountered very much; only about 3.

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Don't mind him. He's a little upset over all the rating he lost.

I care care less about that, either I earn it back or I don't. But eve matches are just.... dumb.