Quote from Hewitt

Uhm, did you not see the part where Scarecrow acknowledges that there can be good Stickfigure art despite his bias. He's arguing that given those kinds of art, there still should be standards. He wasn't saying that there is no such thing as bad Stick art.

So what he means, that we must put up a high standard between good art and bad art?

Quote from Triss

So what he means, that we must put up a high standard between good art and bad art?

Did you even read the huge wall o text' on the front page?

Quote from Triss

So what he means, that we must put up a high standard between good art and bad art?

*facepalm*

Quote from Xero

Did you even read the huge wall o text' on the front page?

Sorry bout that, I still digesting the info.
Anyway, I found some good and bad art, so the standard is like this right?

Good:
http://camshep.deviantart.com/art/Akino-351546774
Bad:
http://forums.stickpage.com/showthread.php?52826-faziri-have-a-baby-sani

Is my standard wrong?

Quote from Scarecrow

Then where do we draw the line between art and garbage?

This should be up to the artist. Seriously people, you should be able to tell whether or not you're posting crap. If you spent ten minutes on it, it probably isn't worth posting. If you didn't put any effort into it, it probably isn't worth posting. If you've never tried to draw before and you just picked up a crayon for the first time... it probably isn't worth posting. Practice, develop some skills before you go to the show off section.

Why? Because if you're posting garbage, you don't have anything to show off. And if you don't have anything to show off, don't expect people to not get angry at you for baiting them into your pointless thread, and don't expect people to not tell you that your so-called "art" fucking sucks.
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Read.
The thread.
Again.

Quote from Triss

So what he means, that we must put up a high standard between good art and bad art?

What?
He's saying that even though Scarecrow believes stickfigures don't really count as art he still thinks that there should be standards. No one is talking whether or not stickfigures are an artform, he's just saying that whatever you produce should have some effort and time put into them, and standards should be high enough for bullshit to be called on.
Many of you people are over-thinking this, believing that Scarecrow is saying that anything that he doesn't consider art should be categorised as shit. This is far from what he is trying to tell you. Styles in which you choose to express yourself are irrelevant here, he is simply stating that whatever form you decide to use, standards should apply for it, higher than the once that this community currently has.

Quote from Gunnii

What?
He's saying that even though Scarecrow believes stickfigures don't really count as art he still thinks that there should be standards. No one is talking whether or not stickfigures are an artform, he's just saying that whatever you produce should have some effort and time put into them, and standards should be high enough for bullshit to be called on.
Many of you people are over-thinking this, believing that Scarecrow is saying that anything that he doesn't consider art should be categorised as shit. This is far from what he is trying to tell you. Styles in which you choose to express yourself are irrelevant here, he is simply stating that whatever form you decide to use, standards should apply for it, higher than the once that this community currently has.

Thanks Gunni, you explained it much better.
Now I understand.
Maybe you could be a good mod like Zed.

Quote from Gunnii

What?
He's saying that even though Scarecrow believes stickfigures don't really count as art he still thinks that there should be standards. No one is talking whether or not stickfigures are an artform, he's just saying that whatever you produce should have some effort and time put into them, and standards should be high enough for bullshit to be called on.
Many of you people are over-thinking this, believing that Scarecrow is saying that anything that he doesn't consider art should be categorised as shit. This is far from what he is trying to tell you. Styles in which you choose to express yourself are irrelevant here, he is simply stating that whatever form you decide to use, standards should apply for it, higher than the once that this community currently has.

well said

Quote from subzero1112

Quik, you still ain't changing his views on Stick figure art, lets just deal with the fact that we can't please everyone.

I think you make the horrible assumption that I give a fuck whether he likes stick art or not...

Quote from Hewitt

Uhm, did you not see the part where Scarecrow acknowledges that there can be good Stickfigure art despite his bias. He's arguing that given those kinds of art, there still should be standards. He wasn't saying that there is no such thing as good Stick art.

I know, I get the point but this:

Quote from Scarecrow

YOU PEOPLE Your standards have fallen so far that you now consider stick figure drawings done in flash to be art. It sickens me.

Made me post that just to prove a slight point...

stick figure art sickens me. more specifically i'm talking about the "art" that consists entirely of a stick figure drawn in flash on a plain background, maybe with some mediocre bevel shading or something. i didn't feel like going into that much detail just yet in my rant.

regardless of the specifics of it, that's clearly my own opinion and that shouldn't concern the community. i included that because the whole rant stemmed from me having my opinion, and whatever my opinion is doesn't make the rest of what i said invalid.

i will also acknowledge that this thread started as a rant and then turned into a tutorial. had i written this thread intending it to be a tutorial, i probably wouldn't have thought to include that.

LOL

scarecrow, if you wish to add more examples to this page, look on my 2012/2013 thread or maybe some of xero's

there are alot of styles and different art techniques that have not been covered, and i am realizing people are already reading this wrong

just a suggestion, have fun!

Thanks for the thread, Scarecrow, i approve.

What I find as a problem in the art section is that since they're are so many "unworthy" pieces of art that it has driven all the legit "mainstream" artists away.
So now they don't really bother to look at certain pieces of art in the art section just because they don't know the user and assume it's a noob with no art skills.
So when a new good artist comes around, they are ignored by cet legit artists and don't get the good cnc they need/want.
Here's a perfect example

Quote from Proxus

What I find as a problem in the art section is that since they're are so many "unworthy" pieces of art that it has driven all the legit "mainstream" artists away.
So now they don't really bother to look at certain pieces of art in the art section just because they don't know the user and assume it's a noob with no art skills.
So when a new good artist comes around, they are ignored by cet legit artists and don't get the good cnc they need/want.
Here's a perfect example

That's exactly the point I was making.
Now I'm hoping to change that, and push users to raise their reduced to rubble standards, and give more experienced artists the recognition they deserve.