Quote from MoD

My god, phones usually have crap quality when it comes to either video taking or music, so you can't really use that.

Besides, sony and the rest are imitating the iPhone.

i dont put music on my phone.
and im not as bothered about video quality as sound quality, although decent quality video is needed on a phone. and how can i 'not use that'... its one of the reasons i dont like it. one of the good things about having a good video on a phone is that you dont have to have a digital camera around all the time. if you see something cool happening, you can just get your phone out and take a vid...thats why i want video capability on my phone. if it doesnt matter that much to you, fine, enjoy your iphone, im just mentioning that its one of the things that puts me off. in the later generations when they do have video, theyll be better.

i dont want a hybrid phone/mp3 player anyway... i have a seperate phone and mp3 player. and on the mp3 player side, ipods look great and it has good interface, but i just dont want one due to the stuff i dont like about it, and i just dont see the big craze over them, because i dont like them that much

Okay, your only listing two features of the iPhone, but whatever.

Lets not continue this debate, as its now down to personal likes.

Quote from MiniMan

This isn't really a debate, just something to end a debate once and for all.

Take a look at this image. Some random laptop vs Mac laptops.

Now, to break it down.

PC: $1,989
2.6 GHz Dual Core CPU
4GB RAM
Nvidia 8600
200GB Hard Drive

Mac (Cheap): 2,000
2.4 GHz Dual Core CPU
2GB RAM
Nvidia 8000
200GB Hard Drive

Mac (Expensive): 2,800
2.5GHz Dual Core CPU
2GB RAM
Nvidia 8600
250GB Hard Drive

So, to analyze.

Macs cheapest laptop which is roughly $10 more expensive than the windows laptop is worse than the Windows laptop in CPU, Video Card and RAM and it only ties it with the hardrive. And the most expensive one that is nearly $900 more expensive is still worse than the normal laptop as far as the CPU and RAM goes but it ties in the video card department and beats it with it's 250GB hardrive but only just.

But the Macfags may say "That's because Mac is virus free!"

No, it's not. I know someone who programmed a virus that took down macs, they are not fool-proof however if they're anti-anything they're anti-gaming and the only way to have the huge library of PC games is to install windows, go figure. And even though it's not virus free there is no reason to charge an extra $10 or $900 for it only to be handicapped as far as gaming goes.

So yeah.

/macvspcdebates

Yes, because your thoughts are flawless and you are infallible.

Let me start by congratulating you. You did what seriously NO one else thought of or thought of doing. You looked at two images with their prices and inner detail, and by contrasting the two directly, you sum up the debate without taking into consideration everything else that has to do with the situation with the so-called victory of PCs.

A great way to win a debate, as I see you took into careful use when expressing your very intelligent argument, is calling everyone else with a different opinion a Fag. Obviously, this is the stronghold, the Trojan wall to your argument, in which no one can penetrate into thinking twice about arguing with you.

You say:

But the Macfags may say "That's because Mac is virus free!"

No, it's not. I know someone who programmed a virus that took down macs, they are not fool-proof however if they're anti-anything they're anti-gaming and the only way to have the huge library of PC games is to install windows, go figure.

No, the Mac may not be virus free, but you can be damn sure it has much less viruses than PCs. PCs get infected every day from internet downloads, files, and other shit. Your buddy made one virus that can take down macs? compete this one, and I'm sure thousands more with the millions programmed for PCs. As for the games you desire so much, as if you need a HUGE library of games, Macs are, believe it or not, more compatible than PCs when thinking that Macs can go Windows or OSX. Can PCs go OSX? (Serious question, I don't know). Nevertheless, when stating that any compatibility, game-getting, windows, or OSX shit, you're thinking against OSX, and not Macs. Macs can use them both, so they can do anything both can do, yes?

My favorite part of your post is when you took a "Random" Brand of PC, and compared its price, Hard Drive, Ram, and NVidia, and GHz directly to some macs. First off, that one brand of PC doesn't not make EVERY other PC have an identical situation. Do the same for every other pc, and I'll consider the relevance. The Price of computers goes deeper than the statistics of performance, depending upon the programs, the screen size, the material, and the quality of other factors. Comparing price and few details directly is only ignorant in my opinion.

To sum it up, You are not Fact-matter that produces Fact whenever you want to, especially with poorly thought out arguments. My opinion of Macs: OSX is not as good as Windows. OSX isn't revolutionary, amazing, or even awesome on any extent. It's just a mediocre operating system trying too hard to differentiate itself from Windows. Windows is awesome, and the average operating system for use in my eyes. I use vista, works better than any OSX I've used, and had no problems within the year I've had it. Macs have no role in this. Macs use both, and take the benefits of both, which is only awesome. I'm not sure if PC can.

Leave Macs alone!

Quote from MoD

I need to grow up fast :C

Anyways, mac sucks, trust me, I'm ****ing serious, I used to have one, I threw it in the trash.

Nice use of eBay, or just selling it to someone. The thought that Macs sucking in their entirety merely for the faults or details of one of their products is a narrow minded one.

I had my ****ing porn stash on my mac, then one day it ****ed up and deleted every file.

I was shattered, and in my rage threw it in the trash.


100 gigabytes of pornography. Gone. Forever.

That is a LOT of porn.


Well done =D

Quote from MoD

I had my ****ing porn stash on my mac, then one day it ****ed up and deleted every file.

I was shattered, and in my rage threw it in the trash.


100 gigabytes of pornography. Gone. Forever.

Wow, movies, or 100 gigs of images!?

The first would impress me, and I would be honored to talk to one who would complete the latter.

Still, one mac messed up with an unidentifiable error, possibly not brought on by the mac. No reason to hate macs, or waste so much money on anger.

Pirate is right, they charge the high prices on hardware because they can. And if they went out of the hardware business they would go out of business 100%.


Anyhow I didn't want to pay the high prices so I just put OS X on a regular PC. So much easier then windows. Only thing I don't get is as many games.

On the topic of amounts of porn in disk size, I currently have 12 gigs of both images and video.

Wait, what, who said that?

Quote from Kitsune

Yes...<> ...into thinking twice about arguing with you.

No, the Mac may not be virus free, but you can be damn sure it has much less viruses than PCs. PCs get infected every day from internet downloads, files, and other shit. Your buddy made one virus that can take down macs? compete this one, and I'm sure thousands more with the millions programmed for PCs.

I always found the "virus" argument to feel a bit off. The number of viruses on each OS is attributed to the fact that Mac OSs don't allow the user to get very close to the guts of the computer, the software of the hardware, if you will. It's far more difficult to do things like hide a file within a file, to change the program assosiation of a file, and other things that viruses tend to take advantage of on Windows computers.

However, this is actually a side-effect of another very big issue: It's far easier to do some of those things on windows than on Macs. The Mac OS is built with iTunes in mind, and so it supports that very well, but that makes it harder for users who prefer alternate media players like Foobar2000 and VLC to opperate such programs with ease. This sort of thing occurs in many other instances. The real kicker, though, is that a person can install firewalls, virus scans, etc. and take away the ill-effects of those otherwise positive features.

The lack of easy access to the OS files and such makes it far harder for a home user to repair a Mac computer without professional help as well.

As for the games you desire so much, as if you need a HUGE library of games, Macs are, believe it or not, more compatible than PCs when thinking that Macs can go Windows or OSX. Can PCs go OSX? (Serious question, I don't know). Nevertheless, when stating that any compatibility, game-getting, windows, or OSX shit, you're thinking against OSX, and not Macs. Macs can use them both, so they can do anything both can do, yes?

The point isn't that a person with a Windows computer can obtain a massive collection, the point is that if a new game comes out, it's far more likely to be on the PC than the Mac.

Also, I'm not sure, but do Macs have their equivelent of window's DirectX?

My favorite part of your post is when you took a "Random" Brand of PC, and compared its price, Hard Drive, Ram, and NVidia, and GHz directly to some macs. First off, that one brand of PC doesn't not make EVERY other PC have an identical situation. Do the same for every other pc, and I'll consider the relevance. The Price of computers goes deeper than the statistics of performance, depending upon the programs, the screen size, the material, and the quality of other factors. Comparing price and few details directly is only ignorant in my opinion.

The idea is that a user could, for a lower price, turn to that moderately priced new Windows-built computer instead of a crappier but more expensive Mac-built computer.

The thing that determines the quality of a computer is it's construction, namely the hardware specifications and how well it was out together. Assuming the mac was put together with the same level of care and part compatibility, the fact that the invididual hardware is more powerful (Lets assume that the individual parts are all equally well-made) shows that the computer is a better deal.

I think your thought that it's harder to do some more close-to-the-os things on Macs might be a little more based on your personal experience then in general, but I can't be sure. I think it's just a matter of knowing how.


And the argument that you can just throw a program on XP and never get a virus doesn't really fly. I mean you've still got to waste time setting it up and downloading updates and other things no one enjoys. Plus allot of people still get viruses on windows, even one's that use anti virus software.

PC: $1,989
2.6 GHz Dual Core CPU
4GB RAM
Nvidia 8600
200GB Hard Drive

Mac (Cheap): 2,000
2.4 GHz Dual Core CPU
2GB RAM
Nvidia 8000
200GB Hard Drive

Mac (Expensive): 2,800
2.5GHz Dual Core CPU
2GB RAM
Nvidia 8600
250GB Hard Drive

"PC: $1,989
2.6 GHz Dual Core CPU
4GB RAM
Nvidia 8600
200GB Hard Drive"

That pretty muchs settles it. Be sides, isn't it true that a MAC can't support games?

max r beter for doin stuf like veido kreation n pcs cant do that stufd n musikc cratoion also pc cant do

we al;so gots beter mice u fag0ts admit it u no u want 1 buton mouce

Quote from Some faggot

That pretty muchs settles it. Be sides, isn't it true that a MAC can't support games?

Yes, as Macs can't play games. Yes because you can't create your own computer with the same hardware and yet install OSX. >_>

Macs used to be the center point for creative stuff. Media is still one of the major strong points of macs, although WINDOWS computers are catching up.

FYI PC = Personal Computer. Which includes Macintoshs as they are computers.

Also just think that if Microsoft didn't have all of the third party people putting the computers together do you think that they would still be around?

Windows would not be popular if it didn't have third party support.


it doesn't have much going for it besides third party support and the fact the linux is to hard for most people and macs are expensive.


Honestly windows is such a crap operating system...