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The Great Debate : Order VS Chaos

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Jun 8, 2013 5:40 AM #1000387
In my opinion (and perhaps everyone's opinion), Chaos has the early advantage but the longer the game goes the more chance Order wins
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Jun 8, 2013 11:54 AM #1000837
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In my opinion (and perhaps everyone's opinion), Chaos has the early advantage but the longer the game goes the more chance Order wins


Not mine, and as the game goes, chaos might also have giants and medusas, which will defeat the spears, archers, magikill and giants
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Jun 8, 2013 12:08 PM #1000873
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In my opinion (and perhaps everyone's opinion), Chaos has the early advantage but the longer the game goes the more chance Order wins


Can you explain it more like Why?
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Jun 8, 2013 9:52 PM #1001319
hmmmm.... Chaos has crawler and bomber that can easily take control of the early match, esp u can bring bomber to threaten the enemy's base. However, if the match still going, except for Medusa is too OP, every order unit is slightly better than chaos, so order can dominant the rest of the match .___."
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Jun 8, 2013 10:35 PM #1001349
jugger>spearton
dead>archer and albow
eclipsor>archers
c giant>e giant
medusa>magikill
medusa>shadowrath
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Jun 9, 2013 12:30 AM #1001420
u sure? cause eclipsorc giant, jugger?spearton. ._______.
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Jun 9, 2013 5:18 AM #1001670
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u sure? cause eclipsor>albow, e giant>c giant, jugger?spearton. ._______.


Alba > Eclipsor.
Dead > Archer, Alba, Eclipsor.
Juggerknight > Spearton.
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Jun 9, 2013 6:01 AM #1001701
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Alba > Eclipsor.
Dead > Archer, Alba, Eclipsor.
Juggerknight > Spearton.


Let's not talk about deads or albas, cuz, deads can be defeated by merics and spears really easily, and eclipsor's training time is 20secs and alba is 26s, and juggerknight has charge, while speartons have sheild wall, where the juggers can go past them. The medusa can petrify the magikill, making the magikill useless, and it also has poison pool
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Jun 9, 2013 7:12 AM #1001738
Quote from jerrytt
jugger>spearton
dead>archer and albow
eclipsor>archers
c giant>e giant
medusa>magikill
medusa>shadowrath


Completely false. Mages are FAR more versatile than medusa. Enslaved giants are FAR better than chaos giants. One hit more after medusa is shinobi II'd is death Archers+Spears counter eclipsors. Albas are stronger than eclipsors. Albows beat deads if you have spears. Spears are MUCH better than juggers.
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Jun 9, 2013 7:22 AM #1001741
In short, Order pwns Chaos with ease. IF Order can sustain an eco that can support their pricey units.
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Jun 9, 2013 12:31 PM #1002050
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In short, Order pwns Chaos with ease. IF Order can sustain an eco that can support their pricey units.


Pricey you say? Swords are a much better unit than crawlers and only cost 25 more. Archers, a tier ONE range unit, 300 gold. Spears? Same price as jugs. Albas? 50gold more and 50 mana more than eclipsors. Mages and medusa cost the same. Giants on both sides are the same cost. Ninjas aren't very resource consuming. Same gold cost as a spear and less mana than a meric to queue. Really your argument of cost is invalid. I apologize for repeating myself, but chaos's economic advantage only lasts as long as you let it.

Another thing >.> you people seem to think one race is infinitely stronger than the other. "With ease" is subjective. If you truly suck THAT much with chaos or order, that's on you.
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Jun 9, 2013 12:36 PM #1002058
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Pricey you say? Swords are a much better unit than crawlers and only cost 25 more. Archers, a tier ONE range unit, 300 gold. Spears? Same price as jugs. Albas? 50gold more and 50 mana more. Mages and medusa cost the same. Giants on both sides are the same cost. Ninjas aren't very resource consuming. Same gold cost as a spear and less mana than a meric to queue. Really your argument of cost is invalid. I apologize for repeating myself, but chaos's economic advantage only lasts as long as you let it.


By saying magikills cost is the same as medusas: Today I have finally reliesed, that the magikill only cost 500 gold and 400 mana!!! I have played the most time in the campagne, and there he cost 500 gold and 500 MANA. Man I was surprised when I saw he only cost 500 gold and 400 mana now...
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Jun 10, 2013 2:33 AM #1002624
Wow lol, Ai was right, this is a great debate lol, everyone has their own opinions :D
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Jun 10, 2013 4:41 AM #1002726
I really should make a thread about order and chaos : all the facts inside, strategies vs strategies too
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Jun 10, 2013 6:00 AM #1002788
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By saying magikills cost is the same as medusas: Today I have finally reliesed, that the magikill only cost 500 gold and 400 mana!!! I have played the most time in the campagne, and there he cost 500 gold and 500 MANA. Man I was surprised when I saw he only cost 500 gold and 400 mana now...


After all this time? You still didn't realize?

And, a ninja can kill medusa/marrow with Shinobi 2 and a quick strike afterwords. But it's almost certain that the ninja will die. But for now, lets compare the prices.

Shadowrath : 450g 200 m.
Medusa : 500g 400m
Marrow : 400g 400m

There. Look how a puny ninja can pwn a unit that is higher tier than them? Also, only both of these or our only option to kill mages which are hiding behind a wall. Behind the wall, they're almost untouchable.

Order have meric. When meric is spammed, units heal quickly. But chaos? They only have a puny regen. It may be good early, but it's useless late game. How is it supposed to heal a severely injured giant? Order can have as many as meric as they want, so that the units heal MUCH faster.

Poison Spray. It's so much more effective than Venom Flux. While Venom Flux stays for 20 secs, and Poison Spray is only one use and can be used again, it's useless. Why? Because of its range. Medusa will have to go upfront to poison tank units. Not really worth it. And it's dodgeable too. And Order have Merics for insta-cure. Chaos passive cure kicks in slower. It can almost kill wingidons.
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